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minutes? >> is there a motion to approve the minutes? >> as corrected? >> i move to approve the minutes with the correction about gentleman's agreements being settlement agreements. >> second. >> all in favor? >> aye. >> aye. >> aye. >> the minutes are approved. >> executive director's report. >> i only have one highlight. just to remind the commissioners that we have budget hearings in june, before the next commission meeting so i will be attending at the board of supervisors hearings on our budget as well as all other departments. before the next meeting and i will report back to you then how that did go. but i am optimistic about this
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year. >> that is good news. >> we will get... more resources are always welcome. >> any questions for the executive director? >> public comment? >> items for future meetings? >> as i mentioned earlier, i would like to put on the agenda a discussion concerning the issue that was raised by mr. bush about the what used to be what were called the expenditure lobbyists and i got to say that frankly i don't, not being here at the time, i don't have a lot of
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understanding as to who was covered or what was intended to be covered under expenditure lobbyists but i guess that i would just sort of classify the agenda item to be a discussion whether or not we are ought to amend the regulations so that we capture what was previously captured under the heading lobbyist. because what concerns me is that when i look at the outfits that reported expenditures and the issue project say in 2007, spent 46,000 dollars, a small property owners, $1,000, and then in 2009, apparently the
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san francisco common sense coalition listed 58,000, san francisco firefighter local 798, 367 and as i understand it, those kind of contributions, whatever they were referred to would not be covered under our present regulations. and i would like to have a discussion concerning whether or not we ought to make some amendment that would recapture moneys that are being spent to influence public opinion on either governmental projects or whatever governmental action they are being spent on. >> i think that it is a good idea. >> and i think that we want to
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include a discussion of what mr. gibner suggested. the referals? >> right. >> is that how we should refer to, probable cause referals? >> i think that it is just off outside of the public and or during the break, we also discussed the possibility of setting a new process or considering new regulations dealing with our referals of matters that, referals of complaints that are in the commission's jurisdiction. >> any other items that we want to add for the future agendas? >> public comment? >> david pilpal and i am not sure what he just referred to
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about referals and during the break? >> i am happy to explain. during the... when a question arose, in a closed session discussion about how the commission handles referals. >> okay. >> and that as a public session discussion is to be had. >> okay. >> and a future meeting. >> that is right. >> and there is a concern that some of us have that often such referals appear simply as dismissals. and add to the number of so-called dismissals of which we are accused of having too many. and so, one of the things that we want to look at is that there is a different way to categorize probable cause issues that are referred out to
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another agency. >> so... >> so it is not a dismissal, but rather a referal. >> but it is a disposition of matters that are before the commission that get referred to another satingcy. >> correct. >> and how to categorize that disposition. >> yeah. >> and this of course is part of the problem when people start looking at the numbers and then like well, if it were about the numbers... >> exactly. >> 49 percent of statistics are almost half. never mind. >> i did have something else for a future agenda. now i am losing it because we got side tracked with this. >> and give me a second and i will remember. >> you are too young to have these memory problems. >> after memory what is the next thing to go? >> okay. >> anything further
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commissioners? >> mr. pilpal? >> it will come back to you. >> all right. i think that concludes this... >> not quite. >> i just remembered. >> sorry. some time in the last month or six weeks, president chiu and city attorney herarra proposed amendments to the various laws governing ethics to try to tighten up. the commission has not held a hearing on those, the way that i understand it. they are written in such a way that it would not require the commission's concur ans because it does not amend sections that the commission has approval or aauthority over, nevertheless, i think that it would be good to discuss what the proposals are and what the impact would
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be or what they are trying to get at and how just to talk about those proposals. they were sort of highlights as a big deal thing and i don't know if they are a big deal and i think that it will be good for the staff to talk about what they are and what they will do and we can just talk about it. >> you will be glad to know that we definitely plan to do that. >> careful what you ask for. >> i thought that you said that they will be sent to us. >> they will be referred to us for comment and recommendation. >> all right. >> it is not actually a four fifth. >> we don't have to adopt them for law. >> sometimes you ask and you get it immediately. >> thank you very much. >> with that, i believe that we conclude the matters before the commission today. and do i hear a motion to adjourn? >> so moved. >> second. >> all in favor? >> aye. >> aye. >> thank you, and good night.
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>> on december 28, 1912, san francisco mayor stared into a sea of 60,000 of constituents that gathered at geary. the berth of the first publicly owned transit system in the
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city, the san francisco municipal railway.
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(music) >> herb theatre,open rehearsal. listen to the rehearsal. i think it is fun for them, they see our work process, our discussions, the decisions we make.
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it is good for us. we kind of behavior little bit when we have people in the audience. msk (music) >> we are rehearsing for our most expensive tour; plus two concerts here. we are proud that the growth of the orchestra, and how it is expanded and it is being accepted. my ambition when i came on as music director here -- it was evident we needed absolutely excellent work. also evident to me that i thought everyone should know that. this was my purpose. and after we opened, which was a spectacular opening concert about five weeks after that the economy completely crashed. my plan --
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and i'm absolutely dogmatic about my plans --were delayed slightly. i would say that in this very difficult timefor the arts and everyone, especially the arts, it's phenomenal how new century has grown where many unfortunate organizations have stopped. during this period we got ourselves on national radio presence; we started touring, releasing cds, a dvd. we continue to tour. reputation grows and grows and grows and it has never stopped going forward. msk(music) >> the bay area knows the orchestra. you maybe take things for
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granted a little bit. that is simply not the case will go on the road. the audiences go crazy. they don't see vitality like this on stage. we are capable of conveying joy when we play. msk(music) >> any performance that we do, that a program, that will be something on the program that you haven't heard before. string orchestra repertoire is pretty small. i used to be boxed into small repertoire. i kept constantly looking for new repertoire and commissioning new arrangements. if you look at the first of the program you have very early, young vibrant mendelson; fabulous opener and then you have this fabulous concerto
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written for us in the orchestra. is our gift. msk(music) >> and then you have strauss, extraordinary piece. the most challenging of all. string orchestra work. 23 solo instrument, no violin section, now viola section; everybody is responsible for their part in this piece. the challenge is something that i felt not only that we could do , absolutely could do, but i wanted to show off. i can't tell you how aware i am
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of the audience. not only what i hear but their vibes, so strong. i have been doing this for a long time. i kind of make them feel what i want them to feel. there is nobody in that audience or anywhere that is not going to know that particular song by the fourth note. and that is our encore on tour. by the way. i am proud to play it, we are from san francisco. we are going to play that piece no matter where we are.
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>> hi. welcome to san francisco. stay safe and exploring how you can stay in your home safely after an earthquake. let's look at common earthquake myths. >> we are here at the urban center on mission street in san francisco. we have 3 guest today. we have david constructional engineer and bill harvey. i want to talk about urban myths. what do you think about earthquakes, can you tell if they are coming in advance? >> he's sleeping during those earthquakes? >> have you noticed him take
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any special? >> no. he sleeps right through them. there is no truth that i'm aware of with harvey that dogs are aware of an impending earthquake. >> you hear the myth all the time. suppose the dog helps you get up, is it going to help you do something >> i hear they are aware of small vibrations. but yes, i read extensively that dogs cannot realize earthquakes. >> today is a spectacular day in san francisco and sometimes people would say this is earthquake weather. is this earthquake weather? >> no. not that i have heard of. no such thing. >> there is no such thing. >> we are talking about the weather in a daily or weekly
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cycle. there is no relationship. i have heard it's hot or cold weather or rain. i'm not sure which is the myth. >> how about time of day? >> yes. it happens when it's least convenient. when it happens people say we were lucky and when they don't. it's terrible timing. it's never a good time for an earthquake. >> but we are going to have one. >> how about the ground swallowing people into the ground? >> like the earth that collapsed? it's not like the tv shows. >> the earth does move and it bumps up and you get a ground fracture but it's not something
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that opens up and sucks you up into haddes. >> it's not going anywhere. we are going to have a lot of damage, but this myth that california is going to the ocean is not real. >> southern california is moving north. it's coming up from the south to the north. >> you would have to invest the million year cycle, not weeks or years. maybe millions of years from now, part of los angeles will be in the bay area. >> for better or worse. >> yes. >> this is a tough question. >> those other ones weren't tough. >> this is a really easy
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challenge. are the smaller ones less stress? >> yes. the amount released in small earthquakes is that they are so small in you need many of those. >> i think would you probably have to have maybe hundreds of magnitude earthquakes of 4.7. >> so small earthquakes are not making our lives better in the future? >> not anyway that you can count on. >> i have heard that buildings in san francisco are on rollers and isolated? >> it's not true. it's a conventional foundation like almost all the circumstances buildings in san francisco.
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>> the trans-america was built way before. it's a pretty conventional foundation design. >> i have heard about this thing called the triangle of life and up you are supposed to go to the edge of your bed to save yourself. is there anything of value to that ? >> yes, if you are in your room. you should drop, cover and hold onto something. if you are in school, same thing, kitchen same thing. if you happen to be in your bed, and you rollover your bed, it's not a bad place to be. >> the reality is when we have a major earthquake the ground shaking so pronounced that you are not going to be able to get up and go anywhere. you are pretty much staying where you are when that earthquake hits. you are not going to be able to stand up and run with gravity.
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>> you want to get under the door frame but you are not moving to great distances. >> where can i buy a richter scale? >> mr. richter is selling it. we are going to put a plug in for cold hardware. they are not available. it's a rather complex. >> in fact we don't even use the richter scale anymore. we use a moment magnitude. the richter scale was early technology. >> probably a myth that i hear most often is my building is just fine in the loma prieta earthquake so everything is fine. is that true ? >> loma prieta was different. the ground acceleration here
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was quite moderate and the duration was moderate. so anyone that believes they survived a big earthquake and their building has been tested is sadly mistaken. >> we are planning for the bigger earthquake closer to san francisco and a fault totally independent. >> much stronger than the loma prieta earthquake. >> so people who were here in '89 they should say 3 times as strong and twice as long and that will give them more of an occasion of the earthquake we would have. 10 percent isn't really the threshold of damage. when you triple it you cross that line. it's much more damage in earthquake.
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>> i want to thank you, harvey, thanks pat for >> calling the commissioner woo ho. >> bra don. >> atd ams. >> katz. >> murphy. >> here. >> item two, approval of aminutes for the may 14, 2013. >> second e >> all if in favor. >> item three, public comment sxexive session. >> okay, item four executive session. >> second. >> second the session and regarding the anticipated litigation matter