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in a more positive direction. and, so, today we're going to be hearing an update about what has been happening over the last number of months so that we can exercise oversight of the project and also what the plan is moving forward so that this project can be formulated and delivered in a timely manner. we also want to talk about there are two specific things that we'll be discussing today in addition to the plan as a whole. one of them is the discussion about market street versus mission street in terms of which would be the primary biking thoroughfare for the project. i know that mission street is being considered as one of the i think ceqa alternatives and there's been concern expressed by many in the community and i and president chiu i think have expressed similar concern about the mission street option, but we would like to hear about what the status is of those various options.
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in addition, we had extensive conversation at our last hearing about the possibility of short-term trial projects, understanding that the entire global market street project will take a number of years to deliver and that should not prevent us from making short-term changes, whether they're temporary or permanent, to try to improve or at least deliver potential aspects of improvements to market street. i want to thank the department of public works for its recent repaving of the curb lane east of octavia, i believe. i think that that has already provided some significant benefits. and, so, those are the kinds of things that we want to think creatively about, what can we do in the short term to improve things even if it proceeds delivery of the entire project. so, before we get to that,
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president chiu. >> thank you, mr. chair, and i want to thank you for partnering to really move this project forward. i also want to thank all the members of the public who have been focused on this for a number of years. let me start first by just mentioning that in 2011 i sponsored a resolution that was unanimously supported by this board to urge the sfmta and other department agencies to focus on the better market street project to speed up transit along market street while improving the comfort of people walking, biking, supporting local culture function of the street. i'm paraphrasing from the title of that resolution. and while i do certainly appreciate the process supervisor wiener alluded to i think in recent months the management and coordination of this project between different departments has improved, we have a ways to go which is why we're here at this hearing. in addition to the topics that supervisor wiener has discussed, i am particularly interested in two issues. one, just want to get a sense
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of the budget and where we stand in thinking about funding for this project. and then i do want to reiterate ensuring that we are focused on near term and pilot improvements. there was quite a bit of work done on those based on past hearings that we've had and i also want to reiterate thanks to the dpw and mta departments for the recent repaving on and repainting of bikeways, which i personally experience almost every day. but we have been told that there are hopefully three six-month, 12-month shorter term projects and want to get a sense of the progress on that and really get a sense from a project management standpoint around deliverables and schedule dates that we know that we're going to be able to hit. so, with that, mr. chair, turn it back over to you. >> thank you, president chiu. with that island like to call up our director of pushtions mohammed nuru. there will be other city
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departments [speaker not understood]. >> good morning and thank you for having us here today. ~ as as you said, the better market street team has been busy at work and we have been working very hard to try and make the difference and improve market street. today's presentation will share highlights on those progress that has been made. and since we last reported to the board, the city team has been working very hard with our consultants, drilling down on the three concept designs that have been out there. that is the shared lane along market street, the central track along market street, and the mission street design. since two workshops, we have done quite a bit of work along the lines of transportation studies. we've also done some public
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space analysis to inform the design of some of the decisions that you will be hearing today as we prepare to go into the environmental. the team has also worked very closely with the community stakeholders and some of them are here. a few weeks ago we actually had a meeting to try to look at market street a little bit closer and try to resolve some of the conflicts that we started to see, some of the trade-offs. at this time just for an update, we will be finishing what's known as the planning phase. we have one more series of community workshops coming up in july. and in august we hope to begin the environmental phase which will study all the options and elements that will come out of the conceptual design.
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today's presentation kerry rudnig who has been working on the better market street project, will share some of those design ideas with you. andrew lee from the mta, who is the lead for transportation, will go through some of the transportation studies and we'll be able to share that with you. and [speaker not understood] from the planning department will share some of the urban design and some of the public life findings. but before the presentation starts, my colleagues are here i believe director [speaker not understood] is here and i'll ask him to come up and say a few words and also believe john is here also? john ram will say a few words. >> mr. nuru, do you have presentations we can see in front of us that you could hand to us? great. >> we have a presentation -- >> are they printed out or -- >> they're not printed out? okay. if we can get them e-mailed, thank you. ~ . great, thank you.
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director reiskin, welcome. >> good morning, chairperson wiener, supervisor chiu. thanks, and thanks to mohammed for his great leadership on this project. thank you all for your interest in continued advocacy for the project. we're certainly faced with a once in a generation if not more opportunity to rethink and remake market street. and while i know that we're all impatient for those improvements to come, it is an extraordinary complex street and extraordinarily important street to san francisco. as a civic street and specifically as a transportation street, i think your -- i apologize for your commute this morning. but what happens underground where we have all of our train lines converging on market street is the same thing that happens above ground where much of the surface muni system funnels into market street. and this is a legacy of the layout of the city by jasper
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o'farrell 150 years ago by putting these two street grids together. and more than 100 years of decisions about infrastructure investment that have really hard wired our transit system into market street. by the way, the routes are designed by where the rails are placed by where the overhead lines are. so, i say all of this just to reinforce how important market street is to the transportation system, and i'm glad to be reminded of the 2011 resolution where there was a specific emphasis on making muni work better on market street. because anything that we can do to improve muni operations on market street will have positive ripple effects throughout the rest of the muni system. conversely, anything we do to slow muni down or to not take advantage of the redesign of market street to optimize muni performance will lead us to fail to realize those system wide muni benefits. so, i just wanted to take the
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opportunity to reinforce the importance of market street to the entire transportation system, but particularly to muni. want to assure you that we all are working very collaboratively and well together. the staff working on this project is really the a-team from the various city agencies. we've got great stakeholder involvement. [speaker not understood] mohammed referenced that took place a couple years ago is an all star team of land use transportation, civic folk helping us think through these different options. i know there is concern particularly with the mission street option and i share many of those concerns. i think if it's not going to be a world class bicycle facility that will really be a better choice and naturally attract cyclists to mission street and many bicycles still end up on market street, it won't have achieved its goal of trying to deaconflict transit and cycling.
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but i think it absolutely worth our analysis through the environmental process, both federal and local. so, i'd encourage folks to remain open about that. the other thing i would say about mission street is consider perhaps not the current state of mission street to be the baseline case. what we're looking at currently in the environmental impact or in the environmental review for the transit effectiveness project is -- are some pretty significant changes on mission street to make that work better for muni because that's the backbone, as you know, of the 14 and the 14 l. and some other routes that run mission street. so i think changes are going to come to mission street one way or another. i think it's do we try to balance transit and bikes on both streets or do we try to focus transit on one street and make a world class facility on the other street. again, i'm not sure that the
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mission street option will ultimately turn out to be the best one or even workable, but again, i certainly think it's worth studying. and i guess the final thing i'd say is when we're thinking about market street and trying to figure out how to allocate space on the right-of-way, which is at the core of us making this project so complex and sometimes contentious and difficult, we should think not just building front to building front. but there are streets and plazas and other spaces that, that radiate off of market street that are a part of the whole public realm that we have to work with here. so, with that, i'll turn it over to john ram, planning director, to say a few words. it's a very important good project and we're happy to be a part of it. >> thank you, mr. reiskin. i have one question and i agree with you. this is incredibly complex, there's no doubt about it. one complexity in terms of the mission versus market question -- i assume this will be thoroughly vetted during the process, but i'm wondering if
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there is any preliminary data in terms of what the -- you talked about whether it's the subway or market street that sort of bottleneck that happens, as you have a lot of lines merging together onto one thoroughfare, in terms of moving the 14 from mission onto market, what the impact will be on just the volume of bus traffic with limited islands to stop. we see it now, even with the lines that are there, there will be three or four buses in a row and they can't all get to the island. and the 14 is as regular or more so. it's a high-frequency line. is there any preliminary data about what the impact fa pact will be on muni above ground service if we put the 14 on the market street? >> it is something that will be the core part of the analysis. ~. andrew, when he speaks to the transportation impacts, might be able to speak to it as we go through the presentation. but there's a lot that we're planning to do on market
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street. i'd say in any scenario that will help improve the flow of muni, so, we would be kind of buying some capacity on market street that would enable the 14 to work. but that will have impact. it's putting more transit on an already crowded transit corridor. again, if a lot of the cycling traffic isn't there, a lot of the auto traffic isn't there, if there are other changes we can make in terms of stop consolidation and separating local and express service, it may well be an excellent solution, but that's part of what will be a very robust transportation analysis that will have to accompany all three of these options. >> thank you very much. okay. so, director ram from the planning department. thank you. >> good morning, supervisors. i just -- not to reiterate everything mohammed and ed said, this has been a very interesting process because frankly it's been a learning curve i think for all of us. i don't think any of us --
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certainly i didn't realize how complex this project would be. and i think it's been -- and part of the reason it's taken time to get to where we are is because we are kind of learning as we go and understanding the space limitations on market street, and understanding that the complexity is a multiple goal. so, to me what it comes down to is the amount of space we have between building frontages on market street for buses, for pedestrians, and for bicycles. and what we have all agreed to, and to layout these three alternatives that will be analyzed in the environmental impact report, each alternative has something to like and frankly something to not like. one of the alternatives for example will take out the sidewalk space to better accommodate buses and bicycles. and there are some concerns i have frankly about that. i know that there are serious concerns about bicycles on mission and how to make that work. as ed said, it will work only if it is an improved situation over market. i think what we've all a graced is we need to look at all three
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of these alternatives, carry them forward, see what the trades are and make important decisions on the way. ~ agreed this is an important -- this is obviously a critically important project and it is exciting to be sitting here with my colleagues and actually figuring this out at this point. it's an extraordinarily important street and it's one that i think we all share the goals of improving muni rider ship, improving the public spaces on market, and improving the bicycling conditions. with that said, i'll in deference to everyone's time, i can just close by thanking the department of public works and mta for all their work on this and for all departments who are kind of collaborating closely together on this. and neil sherri from our office will make a more detailed presentation on the public space characteristics. thank you. >> thank you very much. >> hi, i'm kelly rudd nick, assistant project manager from the better market street project. ~ i'm going to give you a little
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taste of what the better market street team has been working on and a little teaser for the public workshops that are coming up in july. after i give you sort of this brief overview, andrew lee will talk about the specific transportation and neil sherri will talk about the public space. so, these are the baseline improvements that will happen as we've talked and people are familiar with the three options that we're looking at, options 1, 2, and 3. and these are the -- these will be consistent in all three options. these are overarching goals that have been guiding the process as the team has been working on these conceptual designs for the options. one key is that market street is a street that is in flux as we know right now, and it is changing and will continue to
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change. so, one of the key guiding goals is to look at market street as a flexible space for the future. and these are, you know, how we've been looking at the ways of experiencing market street. so, prioritizing the pedestrians. looking at cycles as a part of the public life. really looking at the high-quality pedestrian public realm and, again, the flexibility built into that for change over time. and prioritizing the transit experience, both speed and reliability and the actual, you know, a lot of time is spent on market street waiting so the improving the waiting experience as well. and looking at market street, not just as a place to pass through, but a destination where people will choose market street as their -- not only their destination, but also their -- like a great route to get where they want to go.
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and, so, one of the guiding principles is these user families, looking at the street user family, the transit experience. and we've been over the three design options, but what is key in this is that we're looking at all of these and all of the elements of these when we move into environmental. so, it's not that there's one or the other or the other, but that all of the pieces of these options will be studied in environmental. and the first option is a market street option. this is the option that most closely reflects what is there today. it has the baseline improvements and it ha the same existing cycle track up to 8th street, and then the shared lane beyond that. this requires the least amount of moving the curb. so, gives us the most flexibility for street life zone.
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option 2 is the market street option with a cycle track, and this gives us a dedicated cycle track, except for a small break between sixth street and grant. and the third option is the market street mission street option. in this case, the market street option 1, the shared lane option with the baseline improvements would happen on market street. and there would be a dedicated cycle track on mission street. as you mentionedth before, the 14 and 14 l, [speaker not understood] would move to market street. ~ these are the blocks that bms team has been studying and drawing for the public outreach that will happen in july. and it also shows where we're looking at the connections between the two streets, specifically around the bicycles.
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>> could you decipher that? it's just hard for any of us to see what those are. >> so, there are four blocks on market street and four blocks on mission street. and these are the streets that -- blocks that we're detailing in our design concepts. so, for each option -- on market street from ninth to 10th, from sixth to seventh, from third to fourth,vand from first to second, those are the amok that we'll be having drawing -- in just a minute i scholl you a couple of them for market street options 1 and 2. ~ and on mission street they mostly correspond except instead of sixth to seventh we're doing fifth to sixth on mission street. those are the blocks that will be drawn in detail showing the concept for the mission street concept. and then the black arrows in between the streets are showing the streets that we are looking at in detail for the connections between the two streets.
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and this is a drawing, again like you said, it's not super legible with this size, but the top is option 1 which is showing the shared lane option. this is between first street and 2nd street and the bottom is the option 2 which is showing the cycle track from first to 2nd street. so, this is an example of of the level of details that these drawings will get into. i'll show you the close up. so, in this -- this is the option 2. so, this is showing the cycle track. the dotted red line is where there is currently -- where the the curb on market street is currently. you can see a dotted red line sort of in the middle of the street that shows the existing boarding island. if you look on the lower right you can see the new boarding island. you can see how much larger it is. you can see where the green
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cycle track is. and i'll show you -- this arrow shows where our prospective will be in the next slide. i'm sorry, i took out the prospective. we'll see that when neil shows his presentation. so, then, this is mission street first to 2nd street. this is not a typical block for mission street because this is near the transbay terminal. but it does show that we're taking into account in these drawings and all of the studies all of the other district plans that are happening, especially in south of market because there are so many. so, this reflects some of the widening of sidewalks that would happen. this is unique in this block. most of mission street, there would be no moving of curb, but because that happens in the transbay plan, we've incorporated that into this. and you can see there is a buffer, a cycle track with a buffer in this plan.
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this is the section for mission street showing the cycle track and the buffer. and two lanes of traffic in each direction. and this is a rendering -- we'll have quite a few renderings at the public works shops trying to illustrate what these will feel like, what the concepts will feel like and this shows a street life hub which is a really robust, an area where there is room for he a robust street life ~ with tables and shear and some sort of kiosk. and i will let andrew lee take over. >> thank you. mr. lee? >> good morning. andrew lee with the sfmta, i'm the lead transportation planner for better working street project. and i'm going to cover some of the initial findings that we've reached in studying some of the concepts moving forward.
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as a quick reminder, market street is an incredibly dense multi-modal corridor and we're asking the street to handle a lot of demand. you can see specifically where it peaks around the retail district around fourth and 5th street and there is limited right-of-way amongst all these competing modes. so, the basic question is how we are prioritizing amongst these modes, transit, automobiles, bicycles, taxis, pedestrians. similarly, mission street has the same sort of peaking behavior around the retail heart, however it does actually climb as it goes towards the embarcadaro and financial district and it's showing a lot of emerging growth that we also have to be accounting for. for the transit operations on both market and mission, we can see that the system is struggling. there is a lot of congestion because all these lines are meeting right along the transit corridor for both market and mission.
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the speeds are roughly 5-1/2 to 6 miles an hour and we'd really like to see those operational speeds improve. you can see also that there's a significant amount of delay associated with loading at the stations. and, so, some of the basic improvements that we've proposed as part of this project are optimizing some of the stops, spacing them out a bit farther apart the existing stop spacing on the left shows that there are stops for both the curb side and islands at every single block, and for the first proposal it would be spaced out at approximately 1-1/2 to 2 block. and the rapid concept punches that up a notch even further by spacing out the center islands into more of a brt-like system so it would match the muni metro and bart station spacing. associated with this would be lengthening of all of the bus boarding islands and curb side stops so that right now we have stops as short as 40, 50 to 60 feet which could really only
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accommodate one 60-foot bus. the improved stations would be much longer that could accommodate three 40-foot buses or two 60-foot buses. they would have the accessible stops and lifts -- not lifted, ramps at all these locations, and they would be much wider, 8 feet wide, up from islands as narrow as five feet wide. ~ lifts we're also noticing in our initial studies is that automobile restrictions and bicycle facilities work in concert to improve transit operations along market street. having a continuous bicycle facility and having a complete prohibition of automobiles will benefit transit operations. and what we're noticing, that under an absolute scenario, we're pretty confident that the
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transit operations will meet the project goal of 15% travel time improvement or better. and for the local enhanced concept, that benefit is roughly balanced between island and curb side service at about 15%, whereas the rapid concept would improve the center service by 2 to 3% and the curb side service would run slightly slower. >> excuse me, before we move off that slide, you know, i think we had from the pilots we had on right turns, these have improved to speed up travel time along with what you described with other elements of findings. that was a pilot that was done a couple years ago with two intersections. are there plans to do other types of pilots? i know there's been a lot of discussion about that to improve that point and understand what impact that's going to have and i want to get a sense of whether that's something that's being discussed and when we might be able to see them. >> we are certainly discussing it right now.
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in fact, we've revisited those turning restriction pilots and noticed that after a couple years, the compliance rate has dropped, particularly at sixth street -- >> compliance rate has dropped? >> dropped gown to 30% at sixth street due to design without the channelization, where it's roughly 30% compliance rate. we've reached out to sfpd to beef up enforcement at those areas and enforce the bus only lanes and we're looking network wide which i will touch on other slayedx. slides. >> are there plans to do other types of pilots? >> there are plans to do other analysis at turn restriction at additional locations farther down. >> can you give us a sense whatv those plans are, what the timing is for when we'd be able to see them? there's been a lot of discussion about this over the last couple years and i think there is a bit of frustration that we're not actually seeing the pilot. so, want to get as much detail as you're able to give at this point.
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~ >> sure. some of the turn restriction we're looking at is o'farrell and grant and channelizing the right turns and the outbound turn restrictions around geary and sutter street and possibly around battery and bush. those are under study right now. we are taking in all of the data we collected about the existing turn restrictions and also the existing pco level of enforcement needed right now for the market street construction, and trying to figure out how we can put those pilots in without adversely affecting downstream operations because there is also other issues on mission street that we've recognized as well. so, it's [speaker not understood] i can't give you a direct [speaker not understood]. >> next week might be able to get feedback on that. >> sure. >> and on the issue of compliance going down 30%, what is the time frame -- how long have we known compliance has been low?
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>> bewe collected that information just over the last month ~ and we've reached out to pd within the last couple weeks. >> okay, it would be great at the next hearing or next check in on this if we can get information from sfpd how their enforcement is going to make sure this pilot makes sense. from my perspective it makes sense these are the direct near term improvement that could help inform the broader project and i'd like to make sure that they are on track. >> sure. >> how did sfpd respond to the request for added enforcement? >> i'm not aware of any response wrest. yet. >> okay. i'll be honest. ~ we've had quite a few bus only lanes in the city and i don't think i've ever seen them be enforced. we put the new red lanes on church street. supposedly they're theoretically being enforced. i've never seen or heard of any enforcement on the red lines on church street. and just so many
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