submitted we will review it and unless the recommendation were to come from this commission based on the actual dr that was held, a hearing, where the commission gaves specifics, we will always honor those and bring those back to the commission, with any future you know recommendation on any future dr that may occur on that property. >> okay. so on item 16 a, and 16 b at 68 procedio avenue which was a request for discretionary review which was withdrawn today. for whatever reason, if there was an agreement between the two parties, then, it holds for water with the city. >> even though the staff has encouraged the two parties to try to work it out. it does not prohibit the property owner in the future from submitting a permit that

managed... >> that is not what i am talking about. i am talking about the integrity of the process. and the fact that the city is encouraging private agreements to be worked out on a discretionary review, to be subsequently withdrawn i would advise the dr requestor and the property owner to not withdraw it, bring it to the commission and have us actually take action on it. >> okay. >> otherwise, >>... >> that is the common process commissioner, i mean the alternative is for both parties actually to record that agreement against the property itself with the assess or's office. >> that is still a private debate. >> it is a private agreement and at least it is a little more enforcable. >> i understand. i am just trying... >> enforcing private agreements. >> and we had a couple of weeks ago we had something on vernal heights that was withdrawn because of their... it was some

negotiation. >> and those never have come to the commission. >> correct. >> contrary to what commissioner moore has said. >> there was a process in place where in the city is actively encouraging this kind of process to take place and then to actually believe that perhaps there was something that is enforcable when it actually is not enforcable and if that is the direction where that is the process, i think that the city should have a huge disclaimer, written disclaimer that says, we are encouraging you to work this out, but it has no meaning. >> okay. >> but we approve out of that when there is an agreement, what we approve is a permit for a set of plans. >> and typically that is what moves forward and that is what can be built. i mean, and but we can't say to

somebody, who is a new owner whether it is two years or five years or 20 years later, that they can't come in for a permit and we refuse to process it, we literally can't do that. >> they can come in whenever they want to. >> when you are telling us, from this staff viewpoint that whatever got worked out, has no meaning. >> because, the staff is going to look at it. >> and it has a new project. >> any two parties can work on any agreement. a neighbor can work on anything with anybody and we would have to honor is that? >> what it was a building that the commission would never have approved. >> why are we telling them to work it out. >> gentleman? i think that this discussion is no longer relevant to this case that dr that is in front of us, there is a motion and a second. i would be curious to have a side bar discussion about that. but let's stick on the case if we can. >> commissioner hillis? >> i think that the relevance is i would not suggest taking dr in this case if it he were

not for the fact that there was an agreement. i think that the deck going out to the property line with a planter is if there was no history of a dr or an agreement, i would approve it. i think that the reason that i am suggesting that we take dr is that i move to take the dr i think that the extraordinary circumstance is that there was an agreement do i agree with everything in the agreement and kind of the screen? no, i'm not party to the agreement. i think that you could accomplish the same thing by moving that deck five feet back, something that i would not have taken dr and unless it was for the agreement. so just to explain why i believe. and because there was this agreement. and you know, we are modifying it a little and weighing in now and that will be mine, and i will stick with the five, and i mean that you have a 10-foot six deck and that is beyond where it was, in the agreement, and i would agree to go 5-6

from ma point >> commissioner moore? >> i would take dr along the same type of conclusions commissioner hillis is drawing, i think that the deck is too far even in front of me as the length it is, i would pull it back because that is indeed what we like and then historic enclosed setting here with the older homes that have to have side relationships. i am comfortable with supporting what you are saying and here we go. >> commissioner antonini? >> my only question is i think that they are bringing it back a little too far, the present deck is 14 x 13. and the proposing to go to 14 by 24. and now, we are already back two feet and so, i guess that if you are saying, commissioner is that your net is going to be five feet back and it is going to be probably 21. but, it only gives them some what of an expansion but not

all the way out there. because there are... it is acknowledged that the because of the planters being there, they are two feet from the parapit as it is and so you want a five foot separation, and i wanted a three foot. >> yeah. >> the deck has 18 feet. >> yeah. >> and it is going to be less than 18 because there is a few foot separation even with the 24, i can that you are going to 21. >> i think that we have to look at the drawings and it is not just looking at numbers. you need to see the effects on the roof. i personally do not believe that a planter against a history being parapit is the right answer because you could see it as something happening there for anything else. and so i think that by pulling the planter and minimizing the deck in a way that he is describing it is the right response in order to indeed

leave the roof deck non-visible from the building edge. >> commissioner antonini? >> maybe i can ask the project sponsors representative who gave us these numbers. >> the planter height is below the top of the parapit. >> you are not going to see it any way. >> you represented earlier that there was already a two-foot even with the plans for 24-foot, you had a two-foot separation from the parapit to the end of the deck. >> basically, right now, if you are going to be standing in front of the planter, and the planter is against the... the

planter is about... one second. if you look at the planter it is two feet or so but we can certainly look at it deeper. >> so we are saying two foot already there, so what i am saying to commissioner hillis is if he wants a five-foot separation from the parapit to the deck, then only take another three-foot off of the proposed length towards fair oaks and that brings us to 21, 4, which i think is a little more realistic. >> because if you are adding or taking five feet off in addition to the two you are going to end up with no increase in the deck at all and that is really no reason for it

to be back that far because you can't see anything any way. >> if you look at, the system plan which is and it fits in this one, and ... (inaudible) you have on the railing all the way out to the edge of the parapit is 23 feet, 24 feet. >> and we could look the motion... >> so if we move back to the side face of the parapit and then we are really talking about only instead of 24 feet we are really talking about 21 feet. >> yeah, that is my argument, that we should modify or we should clarify. >> so from 21 feet, we are now talking about the mrapter. >> yeah. >> the planter in the space between the 21 feet and the para pit. >> correct. >> that gives you the... there is a five foot space there.

>> so, it is 16. >> i believe that there is a make of a motion and this is a second. and i am like it is getting late and i am not giving head bobs for your suggestion there. and so call, a couple of comments, call the questions if it fails maybe you make a second motion. >> commissioner moore. >> a comment is not the planter but what is in the planter that establishes the visibility from the outside. and on the plans... (inaudible) from the outside and happened to live in a neighborhood that was densely done with these kinds of things and unless she is watering out there every day, you don't want to have the planter in the potential plant not so lively plants being visible to a historic para pit site and i believe that there is plenty of roof deck for what is intended here and the dimensions set by the commissioner hillis with the planter out on from there is exactly what i think that we

should be doing. >> motion? the commissioner hillis, so just for clarity. the five-foot set back is measured from the inside of the para pit or the outside of the building? >> the deck will be 19 feet and two inches. >> the plant will be beyond that. >> thank you. >> on the motion, that the existing deck be set back to the dimension of 19 feet, 2 inches and a plant er a load beyond that commissioner antonini? >> no. >> commissioner borden aye. >> hillis. >> aye. >> moore. >> aye. >> sugaya. >> no. >> and president fong neso moved, commissioners that motion passes four to two with commissioners antonini and sugaya voting against. >> and commissioners, the last item on your agenda is public comment and i have no speaker cards. >> general public comment?

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prohibited at the meeting any person responsible for one going off may be asked to leave the meeting. be advised that the cell phones that vibrate cause microphone disturbance so we request that you put them in the off position. approval of the minutes for june fourth. >> approved. >> closed session was canceled. >> recently sworn in as a member of the retirement board and on service on that already and will not be on our board any more. and i have asked him to come to be recognized by the board. and can't go to a meeting until august. >> at that time we will have the recognition of her, wonderful service to this agency. >> thank you. >> any other? >> six, introduction of new or

unfinished business by board members? >> board members? >> rubke? >> i was wondering if we could get an update on where we are with the electronic information with the taxis. i know that taxi items but a speaker asked about the progress of the development of an application based on the information that we are gathering. >> okay. >> are you asking for a report on that? >> yes. >> okay. >> members... >> director ramos? >> yes, thank you, chairman. i have been hearing a lot about the castro street improvements and i am wonder ifing we could expect an update on that any time in the near future and if we could plan on one? >> are you planning anything here? >> i don't think that there is anything planned right now. the planning department is project managing this phase, the planning phase and we can provide an update to the board on the status of the project. >> i know that a lot of people

are talking about that. >> anyone else. >> seeing none. >> item 7, director's report? >> good afternoon,. >> good afternoon, nolan, and members of the board and public and staff. a couple of to report, one, i may have mentioned this previously, but as you know we have four goals of the strategic plans and the fourth goal is one that we have probably talked about the least since the plan was adopted by this board back, i guess a year and a half ago. and that has to do with strengthening the organization and what we need to do internally to support our workforce to develop and grow the workforce so that we can deliver on the rest of the goals of the strategic plan. so to that end, one of the things that we are doing is gathering some base-line information on kind of the pulse of the workforce. and we are doing that through an employee survey that we launched last week, and at the

end of the month. and we are giving employees an opportunity to give us feedback on that, a number of different aspects of the organization, and their role in it and the support they feel that they get from the organization, and things that they think that they need to help them do their job better and that is available to all employees, not just those at a desk, we have an internet version and also a phone or a paper version and we are going to try to make sure to reach as many of our employees as we can no matter what the work location or schedule. >> once we get results back in august, we will subsequently come back and keep the board updated on what we have learned and what actions we will take in further of goal four. so that is something that we intended to do once the strategic plan was adopted and that is moving forward and this data will set a base line for measuring the progress going

forward. >> the next thing, we wanted to remind folks that the america's cup. the event starts just in a couple of weeks, and starting on the july fourth weekend, the first race is on july 7th, and it will run through mid september, and the first part from july to the end of august is the (inaudible) cup and i think that it is like the playoffs and then the finals the america's cup is what happens in september. and the people plan, that we have given you some updates on and that is what the transportation strategies for the america's cup is called. and will be in place for the events as we did last year, what with some modification and learning and improvements for this year. and we will have pedestrian and bicycle wave finding which will be installed in the next week or so and a lot of enhanced transit not just muni but other transit providers as well to make connection between

transit, between, key, transit hubs and key location venues. and there will be special america's cup 511, pages, on the 511.org website for consistent up to date information. for a call we have a flexible plan that we can flexion up or down depending on the demand, so the real time information from sources such as 511 will be important and we are developing as we did last year, a visitor prosures on transportation options and we got the feedback from the hotel council and sf travel that those brochures were well received and found helpful to get to people coming in from out of town, as we did last year, we will have the on street ambassadors to help direct the members of the public where what transportation options are available to get to whatever, event they are trying to get to. we will have a bicycle facility and still working out details

including the one way or twot way and how much of it will have, and probably have it in september, when the finals which when the biggest traffic is expected and also, piloting the taxis and para transit zones at key locations, our special events team that is led by leontelo will be in charge day-to-day implementation and we will continue to make adjustments as-needed to make it successful. i think that the experience from last year will help us a lot in insuring the same kind of success this year. so good progress on that. and moving on, i wanted to mention that sf park, was once again, we can niced by an independent agency in this case, it was named the most innovative parking program in the united states by the international parking institute. and the ipi survey that is membership to identify the

cities that are trend setting and progressive in the approach to parking and chose sfpark, ipi was founded in 1962 as the world's largest association representing parking professionals and the parking industry, so this is kind of the group to be weighing in on parking and just a brief excerpt from the report. it provides real time information on parking availability and cost and reduces double parking and circling and congestion and improves the parking and ease in convenience. allowing the sfmtv to provide real time data and maintain contractual control and devalue ate the pilot's various components. one of the bravest steps was requiring the city and government employees to pay for parking, something that i hear almost daily from our own staff and the other city departments, it remains extremely unpopular, but i think that it is appropriate but nevertheless,

and it goes on to say that the move was designed to bolster the program's credibility before asking to change parking management. so very honored to be honored and the work of somali and her team, and achieve another, this is one of a dozen national or international recognitions for this program. it is pretty impressive. and finally, i wanted to let you and the public know, that in july we will be hosting the bay area will be hosting two american public transportation association workshops, at the lead trade organization if you will for the transportation industry. and they are going to be having two of their workshops here at the end of july, on july the 29th through the 31st, we are joining with sam trans, to host the multimodel workshop and it will provide planners and

schedulers in the latest in scheduling, facilities planning and advances and rapid transit so this is geared towards the folks and kind of on the front lines of planning and design who are doing all of the innovative work across the country in multimodal transit. and so that should be a fun group. and july, 28 to 30, so they overlap, we are joining with bart of the sustainability and transportation workshop and in this workshop we will feature environmentally and energy efficient development and practices to advance, the public transportation role in sustainability, and both will be held at the saint francis and excepting 300 people between the two conferences and relatively small but we are still happy to be the host city, and working with our partner agencies to host and we will as the details develop, in terms of what events or opportunities there will be, we

will be sure to let you know. but i believe that the registration is opened for fwo*egt both and hopefully we will get a lot of good attendance and good information out of the workshops and that is all that i have. >> thank you. >> members of the board? questions or comments? >> members of the public? on the director's report? >> okay, seeing none, thank you. >> item 8, citizen's advisory council report. >> welcome back. >> thank you, very much. >> well that is a change. usually it is i who... >> we understand that i should be by the microphone. >> we understand that you are stepping down after eleven years of the chairman of the citizen's advisory committee. and the group that created prop a that created the beginning, how much that we appreciate

everything that you have done, and your reports are always thoughtful, and we really appreciate your work especially the work of the entire citizen advisory committee. so, congratulations >> thank you very much. >> thank you. [ applause ] >> thank you very much. >> and i very much appreciate that. i was going to mention this at the end of my presentation but i will mention it now. and yes, it is true i have advised my colleagues and i will not seek reelection to the fourth term, the personal and career obligations make it difficult for me at this point to put in the amount of time that the job requires. and i have been the sheriff for eleven years and so it is not exactly like i am leaving before i have had a chance to

do whatever i can with the job. as i mentioned i have been involved with the agency from its conception as a co-author of the william form charter amendment which became prop e. and i will continue to be involved with the agency. you are not completely rid of me just yet. and i have told my colleagues about, i would be interested in continuing as ac ac liaison to the dap and the bond oversight committee and i will continue, at least for a time as a member of the cac itself. and to the whatever, help that i can be to whoever my colleagues choose to succeed me. i am confident that they will choose someone to chair the cac that can build on the things that i did well and improve on the things that i did not so well, and keep moving forward

with making cac a keep part of the sfmta. >> it has been a great privilege to work with the people of the mta and by naming names i run the risk of leaving some people out. and i have injoyed working with all three executive directors under my tenure, michael burns, matt ford and now ed riskin. and i have had the great privilege of working with our two longest term staff liaisons who were or had a very broad knowledge of the agency which is helpful to us in our work. paul, and your own roberta and that has been a great privilege. i also want to single out another member of the staff. as you may know, the under the charter the only thing that the

cac must do, is to review the sfmta budget. everything else that we do in terms of providing advice to the mta board is what we think we ought to do. and reviewing a budget is the one thing that we must do. and so to thaend, we always engage in a lot of strutny and it is a privilege of working with (inaudible) and who i, used to single out every year, at the end of the budget process, but now, every two years, because we have moved the two year budgets which was something that the cac advocated for, i believe as far as back as 2002. and i am appreciative of the three people who served long tenure as secretaries to the cac. and vincent done lap and

deborah reid and tores and all who have done a lot to make me look more confident that i actually am. during my time on the cac, i made a... i decided when i took the job at the cac, there were a couple of things that i ought to do and one of those was when i i thought that i had to write every line of the system because i live where i live and it is easy for your vision of muni to be the 43 1k3 the 6 and the things that run through my neighborhood and so every year i have gone out and ridden each line and it is eye opening and i would suggest to people, not only is there more of the city that you think that you have seen and haven't, but that there is a way in which it

makes the system more than lines on a map. by which i really mean, that it makes you understand how this connects in particular neighborhoods to the rest of the city and not just as, well there is a neighborhood here, and we are running service every x minutes, it gets you passed and i find that helpful and i have done that every year i have been chair of the cac, except for this last one because of time obligations. so, it has been a great privilege to serve, and hopefully it will not be too long before white smoke comes from the chimney and i will be introducing a new chair to you. and so that is entirely