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good afternoon. [speaker not understood] from san francisco. why i love san francisco, the beautiful location on the bay, the general mild weather and cooling fog, the different cultural neighborhoods where you can visit china, south america, [speaker not understood]. you can pretend you're lost in the wilderness. the museums, opera, that you can be an elitist. the free street entertainment that you can feel like a commoner. the many coffee shops where you can sip coffee for over an hour, recite bad poetry and smell bad.
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the board of supervisors public comment where you can get two minutes to give us your 2 cents worth of enlightenment and sing. the pretty streetses where you can find discolored items that you have been looking for for years. the new farmers markets where real farmers can't afford to shop. fisherman's wharf, pier 39 and the cable car, tourists come to visit. the beautiful wondrous engineering feat of golden gate bridge and the bay bridge. the [speaker not understood] emporium shopping centers where the rich come to shop and the poor come to watch. and, of course, the castro where you can be liberated from everybody else. thank you for listening. >> next speaker. good afternoon,
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supervisors. >> if you could pull the microphone in front of you, please. i have a cold -- >> pull the mic -- i see. my name is john [speaker not understood] and i am a member [speaker not understood] i'm in the african union representative and we've heard from -- we got a letter from nelson mandela, former president of south africa. we've heard from local 22 international [inaudible] union 22, i think, i'm not so sure. but i want to talk about this [speaker not understood] and its role in financing gay pride, which is this sunday. i am i believe still a member of [speaker not understood] organization that's helped keep the city prepared for [speaker not understood], casualties, or crises such as [speaker not understood], the oakland 519 3 [speaker not understood] houses
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were destroyed [speaker not understood]. fema is the federal agency for emergency preparedness and we haven't had any major earthquake in san francisco since '89, but we're praying and i believe that's a good thing to do even in your meeting, to pray that people can make it through okay a fun day so that business can start again on monday, july the first, which is why i'd like to propose to you all perhaps pcp on monday. thank you. >> thanks. next speaker. my name is [speaker not understood]. i'm a volunteer physicians organizing committee, i'm also a resident of district 5. and i'm here to speak on the general topic of the need for mental health services in our city. and basically we find it
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unconscionable that we have a director of public health and certain staff from the mayor's office who are claiming that we have enough mental health services and there's a certain deal on the table with cpmc where there is zero psych beds in there. at the same time, we have many physicians who would love to be here who are fearful of retaliation, retaliation whether they work under dph or retaliation whether they work under sutter cpmc in particular. there were some questions for the supervisors. knowing that some supervisors have been going to bat for mental health, we greatly appreciate that. obviously this is not an issue that is going away. last week i understand there was a bielenson hearing where the director of public health had many comments directed towards her in regards to possibly cutting programs next year especially in regards to mental health, up to 25%. so, how are we getting a story over here that we have enough psychiatric facilities, whether inpatient and outpatient and
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other services, and then on the other hand, we have very contentious bielenson hearings programs next year. this does not make any sense. so, what is the point of dph to deal with these patients? we see a lot of the increased flow through through these psych facilities. guess what? many of these patients are ending up back in our jails. we're seeing numbers such as recidivism increasing. so, the numbers are on our side as well, but really this is more of a political problem of where is the will to make sure that we have the services and to put the responsibilities where they really need to be put. so, this issue isn't going anywhere and we're hoping that perhaps in the future we can force hospitals to include psych services. >> next speaker. stephanie hoffman, member of national alliance of mental
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illness. to maintain that san francisco and the bay area in general can withstand more cuts to mental health care and roadblocks to patient access goes well into the realm of dangerous and harmful. all you have to do is look around your districts. the tenderloin, the mission, market street, no one can deny there is great need in these areas for mental health care. when and where -- when and how would that be addressed? [speaker not understood] a critical massa round mental health issues given by high profile and widely publicized [speaker not understood]. it is reckless and irresponsible to sweep mental health care under the rug. in short, now is not the time to be an enemy of mental health. [speaker not understood]. mental health resources certainly doesn't reduce costs. instead the costs are off load the to the tax paying public, individuals who can't access public health care, [speaker not understood], emergency rooms, jails, shelters, as well as police and fire services. the cost then compounds
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exponentially and the public pays the price. the department of public health and board of supervisors, you have been commissioned to ensure health care needs are met and protect the public's best interest. hats off to those who have advocated the mental health [speaker not understood]. and that, quite frankly is a price we can't afford to pay. thank you. >> thanks. next speaker. hello, my name is dale [speaker not understood]. part of san francisco cares, and thank you, supervisor wiener and the others for mentioning the need for acute psychiatric care. i believe that as brian stated, that mayor lee and the director of public health are disingenuous when they claim that we have enough acute inpatient psychiatric beds while cutting voluntary
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outpatient services at the same time. i want to leave you with some statistics that the national average for public acute psychiatric beds per 100,000 is 17. san francisco has a total public and private of 11.2, which includes the 16 beds that sutter is now promising to keep. and, so, this is an issue of parity and not charity because severe mental illness, schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, psychotic depression is a brain disorder that requires at times acute inpatient skilled nursing care. and to say that we have enough beds while raising the bar for admission is disingenuous and dangerous and i want to remind you that we do not want a tragedy to happen in our city. so, you cannot talk out of both
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sides of your mouth. thank you. >> thank you. let me just remind members of the public to please keep comments to discussions that have not yet happened at public comment and, so, in particular i know there are a number of individuals who did come to observe the cpmc hearings. if you want to speak about public and mental health issues in general, that is permissible, but not specifically referencing cpmc. thank you. next speaker. hello, my name is susan baronstein and i'm with san francisco [speaker not understood]. i also have a mentally ill family member who i have great commitment to and concern about. i want to raise one question here now. i don't know if it's been raised before. despite their own budget woes, why does the department of public health -- why is it not willing to demand that a wealthy private hospital corporation do its share for inpatient and outpatient mental health care in this city? i just wanted to underline that. thank you.
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>> thank you. next speaker. my name is barbara [speaker not understood] and i'm just here along with my friends from nami to be in support of the obvious need for acute beds and the whole continuum of care in the mental health system. i live in cathedral hill and i ride 38 bus down to downtown and i'm in union square often or on market street and the need is just out there crying out loud, and i know you all know that. but i just wanted to be here in person to say so. thank you for considering what we're saying. >> thank you very much. next speaker. good afternoon, supervisors. my name is mary voight. i am a volunteer with [speaker not understood] mental illness here in san francisco. i just want to say that for
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almost 10 years now, every monday, i call our hot lines. i get messages from people around the country whose family members live here, people who live here. i just can't tell you how many times i've talked to families who say, my child, my husband, my mother needs to be hospitalized. but every time we take her to the hospital, they just say, we don't have enough beds. there is no space. so, i hope that we can increase, if not, at least hold on to the beds we have. so, thank you. >> thanks. next speaker. members of the board of supervisors, ray heart, director of san francisco [speaker not understood]. i think all the members of this board of supervisors is probably familiar with what i have up on the screen here. in particular [speaker not understood].
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it's a civil jury instruction basic standard of care. negligence is the failure to use reasonable care to prevent harm to one self-or to others. a person can be negligent by acting or by failing to act. a person is negligent if he or she does something that a reasonably careful person would not do in the same situation or fails to do something that a reasonably careful person would do in the same situation. city librarian luis herrera and the library commission led by jewel gomez have been negligent in their oversight of the friends of the san francisco public library. an examination of the documents produced at the library commission meetings over the years show they have simply allowed the friends to self-report regarding more than $60 million raised and expended in the name of the citizens of this city. it is my belief that this
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private-public partnership will be reviewed by the civil grand jury. and eventually by a civil jury of 12 san franciscans. and they're not going to be too pleased. in a typical year, the friends raise approximately 4 to 4-1/2 million dollars. they spend another 2 to $2.5 million from former reserves and the citizens of this city benefit to the tune of less than $400,000. here's what you approved previously. and if you looked down here at the bottom, you see $750,000, but you also see right above it, donor designated funds, $309,000. so, out of 6-1/2 million dollars a year, the friends do manage to turn over $400,000. and as i've mentioned before, they also use a lot of that money to payoff the staff by giving them trips, paying for enrollment in courses, and doing other things.
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i will admit these are roughest matts given what luis herrera has unlawfully withheld public records disclosable under the sunshine ordinance and california public records act. it's been referred to you and you ignore the referral. >> next speaker. my name is dan sillberg. i'm pastor at st. paul's lutheran church. i've served that congregation now almost 15 years. our clientele and our communities are -- have been focused on marginalized, the homeless -- those that are on the edges of our consciousness, those being in many ways the mentally ill and those that are in need of mental care. these folks have been neglected. i have served 15 years in the streets and have seen it with my eyes. and if you'd like to join me on any given day, i
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would be happy to give you a tour, give you an opportunity to see the kind of dispair there is among my folks. ~ despair because there is an inadequate and a hesitation -- not only a hesitation, but a simple ignoring of the desperate need for services for mental health. it's incredible to me that a city of this magnitude and quality with its incredible wealth would also ignore and dismiss the kind of pleas and the kind of cries from very, very silent, but painfully suffering people. you have the opportunity to respond and speak with legislation and with money and with services for those who are in need of services.
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please, join those who now struggle to find those services for these folks, please. my name is paulette brown and i've been coming here for a while. i've come back here concerning my phone for [speaker not understood] whos was murdered [speaker not understood]. his anniversary is coming up again. still no justice. still no -- nothing's happening. i don't even have an investigator any more. my investigator is retired and i am left alone and i just want to bring recognition to that.
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if anybody -- people know who are killing our children. i have to live with every day thinking about my child. i have to live every day seeing my child laying on a gurney lifeless. it's just not my child. all these children that are being murdered every day and more now are all of our children. how long are we going to be ignored? i know who murdered my children. i know who murdered my child. i have the names of every last one of them and i can bring them up. thomas hannibal. i don't know the rest of the names, but at this point i'm so upset about what's going on with my child and i have to live with this. and not only -- i don't have to be -- you don't have to see me. i could be another mother standing here saying the same thing, same thing.
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we go out to a visual labor day. next time i come, i'm going to bring all the names of the people who murdered my child. these names are at the homicide, on the fifth floor in the book. so, i'm not just talking about just pulling up any name. these names are in the book of the people that murdered my child. and i'm not asking for an eye for an eye, but i want justice [inaudible]. >> thank you. are there any other members of the public that wish to speak in general public comment? seeing none, public comment is now closed. [gavel] >> madam clerk, could you read our adoption calendar? >> items 47 and 48 are being considered for immediate adoption without committee reference. a single owevv call vote enact these items. if a member objects the matter can be removed and considered separately. >> colleagues, would anyone like to sever any items? supervisor farrell. >> item 47. please. >> roll call vote on item 48. >> item 48, supervisor tang? tang aye. supervisor wiener? wiener aye.
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supervisor yee? yee aye. supervisor avalos? avalos aye. supervisor breed? breed aye. supervisor campos? campos aye. supervisor chiu? chiu aye. supervisor cohen? cohen aye. supervisor farrell? farrell aye. supervisor kim? kim aye. supervisor mar? mar aye. there are 11 ayes. >> motion is approved. [gavel] >> item 47, madam clerk. >> yes, item 47 is a resolution supporting the health service system for participating in the establishment of multi-para databases that can be used to evaluate and improve the quality and cost of care and resolve past legislation to establish full quality and cost transparency in the public interest. >> supervisor farrell. >> thanks, colleagues. colleagues, this is an item that i sponsored. i'd like to move it to committee, please. >> this item will go to committee. [gavel] >> madam clerk, can you read the in memoriams? >> yes, mr. president. today's meeting will be adjourned in memory of the following individuals. on behalf of supervisor farrell for the late mr. cole man
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halloran. on behalf of supervisor campos, for the late ms. mercedes majenko. >> thank you. i want to take a moment to thank sfgovtv [speaker not understood] for their coverage of today's meeting. madam clerk, is there any more matter in front of the board of supervisors? >> that concludes our business for today, mr. president. >> ladies and gentlemen, we are adjourned. [gavel] >> [adjourned]
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>> hi. welcome to san francisco. stay safe and exploring how you can stay in your home safely after an earthquake. let's look at common earthquake myths. >> we are here at the urban center on mission street in san francisco. we have 3 guest today. we have david constructional engineer and bill harvey. i want to talk
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about urban myths. what do you think about earthquakes, can you tell if they are coming in advance? >> he's sleeping during those earthquakes? >> have you noticed him take any special? >> no. he sleeps right through them. there is no truth that i'm aware of with harvey that dogs are aware of an impending earthquake. >> you hear the myth all the time. suppose the dog helps you get up, is it going to help you do something >> i hear they are aware of small vibrations. but yes, i read extensively that dogs cannot realize earthquakes. >> today is a spectacular day in san francisco and sometimes people would say this is earthquake weather. is this earthquake weather? >> no. not that i have heard
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of. no such thing. >> there is no such thing. >> we are talking about the weather in a daily or weekly cycle. there is no relationship. i have heard it's hot or cold weather or rain. i'm not sure which is the myth. >> how about time of day? >> yes. it happens when it's least convenient. when it happens people say we were lucky and when they don't. it's terrible timing. it's never a good time for an earthquake. >> but we are going to have one. >> how about the ground swallowing people into the ground? >> like the earth that
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collapsed? it's not like the tv shows. >> the earth does move and it bumps up and you get a ground fracture but it's not something that opens up and sucks you up into haddes. >> it's not going anywhere. we are going to have a lot of damage, but this myth that california is going to the ocean is not real. >> southern california is moving north. it's coming up from the south to the north. >> you would have to invest the million year cycle, not weeks or years. maybe millions of years from now, part of los angeles will be in the bay
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area. >> for better or worse. >> yes. >> this is a tough question. >> those other ones weren't tough. >> this is a really easy challenge. are the smaller ones less stress? >> yes. the amount released in small earthquakes is that they are so small in you need many of those. >> i think would you probably have to have maybe hundreds of magnitude earthquakes of 4.7. >> so small earthquakes are not making our lives better in the future? >> not anyway that you can count on. >> i have heard that buildings in san francisco are on rollers
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and isolated? >> it's not true. it's a conventional foundation like almost all the circumstances buildings in san francisco. >> the trans-america was built way before. it's a pretty conventional foundation design. >> i have heard about this thing called the triangle of life and up you are supposed to go to the edge of your bed to save yourself. is there anything of value to that ? >> yes, if you are in your room. you should drop, cover and hold onto something. if you are in school, same thing, kitchen same thing. if you happen to be in your bed, and you rollover your bed, it's not a bad place to be. >> the reality is when we have a major earthquake the ground
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shaking so pronounced that you are not going to be able to get up and go anywhere. you are pretty much staying where you are when that earthquake hits. you are not going to be able to stand up and run with gravity. >> you want to get under the door frame but you are not moving to great distances. >> where can i buy a richter scale? >> mr. richter is selling it. we are going to put a plug in for cold hardware. they are not available. it's a rather complex. >> in fact we don't even use the richter scale anymore. we use a moment magnitude. the richter scale was early technology. >> probably a myth that i hear most often is my building is just fine in the loma prieta earthquake so everything is
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fine. is that true ? >> loma prieta was different. the ground acceleration here was quite moderate and the duration was moderate. so anyone that believes they survived a big earthquake and their building has been tested is sadly mistaken. >> we are planning for the bigger earthquake closer to san francisco and a fault totally independent. >> much stronger than the loma prieta earthquake. >> so people who were here in '89 they should say 3 times as strong and twice as long and that will give them more of an occasion of the earthquake we
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