test, test, test, test, test test >> good afternoon. welcome to our rules committee meeting for thursday july 18th.

2000 - not yet. now we can start. okay. welcome to our rules committee meeting i'm supervisor yee i'll be chairing though meeting. and to my right to supervisor yee my apologizes for being late may public meeting ran late this morning into the afternoon. the committee would also - okay. today's clerk is linda. and we want to acknowledge the staff at sftv (calling names) who record each of our meetings and make the transcripts available to the public on line

>> any announcements. >> yes mr. chair. be sure to silence any electronics and any documents should be submitted to the clerk >> great. >> item number one. >> item number one all members to the entertainment commission and there's one applicant. >> i believe it's - would you like to have a brief word about yourself. >> thank you for hearing me today. i have 18 years in the department of public health. i've worked in all various areas of night clubs throughout my 18

years of working in public health. i've been serve on the entertainment commission in the public health seat filing in for the last 9 months. i've learned a lot and i'm just feeling like i'm getting my tried first year there are many, many projects i'll to commit to in the next four years >> okay. >> is that it? >> sure any questions. >> any questions? supervisor breed we're joined by supervisor cowen >> thank you. i justice wanted to - one of the more recent challenges we have in the night

life community is over crowding first year i'm also concerned as someone who goes tonight claubz they've over capacity and not enough room to get out if increases a fire. i, you know, the fire department spends a lot of times randomly visit clubs to try and deal with capacity adversaries. i'm wondering a what's our feelings about those things to make sure that club goers will save >> well patron safety a of utmost concern. i've been looking at with an overall goal of night club safety and intooin safety.

we've piloted this study with a handful of clubs and we're looking at how to unrole there board interference with night clubs. this is will a process of working with the clubs in the various city officials of what makes a holistic safety capacity for the clubs >> can you tell me what you believe the club owners responsibility is when they reach capacity and folks are outside and there's challenges there were they believe if they're not in our club they're not our responsibility. what double the club owners responsibility is also when they

let everyone out of their clubs in terms of crowd control >> the entertainment commission we put forward conditions on clubs they're responsible for a certain area outside of their club and monitoring safety of that outside area. so i believe that club owners are responsible. i think that we need to work with the clubs - the entertainment commission needs to work with the clubs whether or not it's the fire department or police department on how better to address the offer selling events. as some place who loves night clubs and entertainment i won solution is to open more night clubs >> well, you know that some promoters are more effective in

troifk clubs pr i'm going to go to the most popular place. so in terms of over and over selling that might be a challenge because everyone wants to be at the best party. again most of my concern centers around safety being in those kinds of situations and wanting the promoterss and the club owners to be more responsible in the people participating in their activities and eye i want to address that in moving forward in general >> off the top of my head i would say that regarding clubs that have good policies and best practices and using them as

models and figuring out where the chambers are and lifting up their standards which is one the designs of interference i've worked on is how to set best practices. and to not - to balance incentives with penaltytion. i know it's a fine line in the club it have a club environment that feels it's popular as opposed to too empty. i don't know if i have the best answer to that question and i i think it's a pretty good answer to try to potentially that could lead to policy where there's incentives for good behavior and

there's penalties for bad behavior >> thank you. >> i'm just wondering there are clubs that don't open every night and they want to or they rent it out to promoters of certain things and one of the clubs they have the policy to have the security guards outside that's fine about when when we rent out for a day or a weekly basis to a promoter a lot of times they don't have security has that been a problem? and where the commission has discussed where to address that

issue? >> well, i've been on the commission for 9 months and i've seen that issue come up once or twice and it's a condition we place depending upon the venue that they have guard card security either all night they're open or on friday, saturday and accentuated in regards to whether or not there's an outside promoter. it's not a cookie cutter approach but we have fair standards first year we look at what the club history is and where the community might have concerned and we might have to modify conditions >> so if i'm - first place a promoter then i don't have to do

anything unless somebody tells me do do something at this point. >> we're asking - well, the entertainment commission times all promoters to be registered and their required to meet the standards of the venue but ultimately, the venue that has the permit is responsible for whatever happens in their venue even if though hire an outside promoter. >> okay. any other questions? >> thank you. >> thank you. >> is there any public comments at this point? come on up you have two minutes >> hi good afternoon. i'm barry i go to a lot of clubs i have in the past. and i watch the entertainment meetings i have to say in the

last two months she can handle the learning curve very quickly so she knows how to schizophrenia ask the appropriate the questions and for people applying for permits. i urge you to amaze appoint her and i think you should allow her to continue to serving this sector of public health. chevy's over seen a population that's been underserved and it's important she bring that prospective to the commission because night clubs should be open for everyone not the rich but people who want to go out and have a good time whether it's a street fair or festival.

i think you should reappoint her. regarding this issue of overcrowding it is important to look at the fire department it's up to them to do the assembly permits and look at the proper number of people and for the security staff and the vendor owners to make sure they keep track of how many people are there. i just also that it is the vendors responsibility regarding the - anyway, i appreciate our time and i hope i support her. thank you >> supervisors i'm a permanent consultant in san francisco.

i felt come pelleted to come here today is support the reappointment of her. she's been a great addition and i'd like to see her continue her work. the commission is in a great position there's been a lot of outreach. this commission agency a whole has conversations up there amongst each other. they're trying to get it right. with the allegations of the legislation from president chiu and supervisor wiener there's better enforcement codes. the education of this particular commissioner she has kind of led the charge in transparency and

also with surveillance cameras how their politics in the exterior of the premise and the applicants rights with regards to people who want them inside or they're not mandate but i think that's very, very healthy. by no means is the system perfect but at this point in time the commission as a whole with commissioner acres is moving in the right direction and it's a much better relationship with the police department and community as a whole so, please reappoint her and let her continue her work >> any other public comment? seeing none, public comment is closed. colleagues can we have a motion to move this forward to the full

board. congratulations ms. acres and thank you for your willingness to serve on that commission. okay item number 2 >> consider appointing 4 members to the commission of animal control and welfare there are four seats and 8 applicants. i believe most candidates are here today. i'll call you to the microphone on the list of the agenda. and my office has been alerted that one candidate will not been able to attend so we'll move onto - to mr. york are you here?

>> hi i'm james. i came to san francisco about 5 years ago and my relative married a partner and there was the animal outcome report and it's fantastic what's been done in 40 years this this city in terms of limiting youth in asia.

in 1974 i opened a store and it's kind of a hippie thing i went on from there selling birds and a trying to do what i thought was right and i think it's time for me to give back to the city. i know how to rehome animals and work with people. and i have a business accepts and that's basically, it >> thanks. supervisor cowen >> could you audible the investigations and