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passed a case that uses logic similar to the citizen's united logic in attributing corporate first amendment rights and free speech to companies. obviously i disagree with that opinion but it's a controlling nineth district opinion and i am asking for your support. >> i am happy to support this two years ago when it came before us and once again -- what is it? twice a year and you see piles and piles of yellow pages in front of every building in my district and i know throughout the city. i know the folks hold me it's like a dump truck and
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pores thousands of the books there and they should be able for people who want them, but just the dumping of yellow pages that happens throughout the city it's hostile to the environment. it's bad for our recycling system and i just -- i strongly disagree with the thinking that this type of pub occasion is deserving of what the court says protections and the court has done this to the speech and it is what it is. we are still bound by the laws interpreted by the courts so i am reluctantly supporting this. supervisor kim. >>i want to concur for the
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supervisor and thank president chiu for your leadership on the issue. i know it's a long and arduous process and i am a supporter of prohibiting -- or having opt in program for the yellow pages distribution pilot program and confer with many of the things that were said. i am sorry we are not appealing this and the legal implications of keeping on the book and i want to thank president chiu. it was a lot of work. >> okay. any additional -- >> just a couple of comments. i want to make it clear the ninth circuit didn't strike down our ordinance but we were advised to go this way and we're moving this forward the same week as thousands of books have hit our door steps. as i said before if you pile up the books every year it equals three pyramids and
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incredibly environmental waste and incredible cost for the city and discarding the yellow page phone books and there are smarter and environmental ways to do it. with it said the ninth circuit has spoken and we will proceed. >> thank you. any public comment on item number nine? mr. brooks. >> good afternoon supervisors. eric brooks san francisco green party andow city. i just want to make sure we put forward our thanks to supervisor chiu for doing this in the first place and as soon as you're ready to fight this again we will your back again. there are lots of us in the environmental and neighborhood communities are are ready to g don't be shy and let's fight this to the best extent that we can. >> is there any additional public comment on item nine? seeing none public comment is closed. is there a motion to
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forward this with recommendation to the full board as a committee report? >> so moved. >> without objection? that the order. madam clerk can you please call item 10? >> item 10 is for the administrative code for the environmental review officer and determination of exempt modification. doesn't require a new decision under ceqa. >> supervisor kim you are the author of item number 10. >> thank you. so we're coming to the end of a very long ceqa journey that was initiated by supervisor wiener. this is the last piece of what i believe is a compromise resolution in terms of reforming how we put in place deadlines for exemptions and negdecks by the local ceqa process, so this is the final piece that our office had introduced in may that allows members of the public to both present information and speak
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publicly about a redetermination of a ceqa exemption so this is a case where a project is referred to and the planning department and props by dbi or another agency state thrg is a modification to the project and asking whether that fits within the current exemption or whether a new one must be issued. members of the public were concerned at the time because there wasn't a clear definition of what a modification to a project was. since then we add language to say what it is which is great and members of the public would like a public arena and present information and for a determination if it fits under the same exemption so this is the language that we had in the original legislation and amended through president chiu and the community advocates in a long
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discussion and we did support those amendments and i understand that supervisor wiener is making additional amendments on top of that contributing to this compromised resolution. i just wanted to support they want side this with 6-1 vote. the planning commission had a smaller commission unfortunately and they put this out with a three-two vote. >> okay. thank you supervisor kim. i will just say first of all definitely good to be nearing the end of our long journey with ceqa, and i was really thrilled that last tuesday the board unanimously passed the legislation that i authored and we have been working on for over a year with extraordinary and productive public process. i think we ended with a good result and i was particularly happy that the heart of that legislation, the
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most important part, setting a clear deadline, specifically triggered by the encompassing the approval of the project and in the legislation on the day i introduces today and it was in the legislation as passed by the board. it was a huge be victory for public process. in terms of the trailing legislation although i have -- i don't think it's particularly necessary. i think that we have a system of modifications where the ero makes a determination whether one is required and i do believe that the planning department's recommendations are appropriate. i am willing to support this legislation with a few i believe it nd i'm willing to
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will -- although it will allow people to ask the reo to reconsider and articulate a rational for the determination of modifications and not a new categorical exemption the way this is structured it will not provide opponents with the opportunity to delay projects by filing an appeal for every modification and we know even in a smaller project you can end up having quite a few modifications. if you had a project opponent able to appeal and use every modification as a ground to stop and delay the project that would be very problematic and frankly make our ceqa appeal process worse than the one we have today so i am
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willing to support this as a solution to the ceqa dispute that we had, and i do want to briefly outline the three amendments that i have -- i am proposing, all of which are consistent what was intend by the author. the first is be explicit that the filing of the environmental review officer's determination that a project modification does not occur, will not in any way delay the permitting activity of a project. i understand from supervisor kim's office and also from folks in the public supporting this legislation that that is the intent that it will not delay projects and the amendment makes that explicit. another makes it explicit there are no further appeals if the
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ero affirms her previous determination that the modification doesn't do that and that appeal determination by the ero is not further appealable and finally clarifying that the environmental review officer referencing the section of the administrative code that defines what the ero is, who the ero is and that is administrative code section 31 .05 and including the subsections so those are the three amendments i am proposing colleagues. supervisor kim. >> thank you, and so we did agree we did not intend for project approval to not move forward and we believe the legislation didn't do that but we are happy to add in that language that clarifies that and for line 21 i want to clarify with the city attorney a new
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determination by the ero triggers a new appeal period. >> a new determination by the ero that the exemption -- basically that the exemption no longer applies? is that your question? >> yeah. reissuing a new exemption for the modified project does trigger a new appeal period? >> right. >> yes. i think we agreed on the out set and issued it clearly appealable to the board of supervisors. okay colleagues if there are no additional comments ms. hayward from the planning department. >> thank you chairman wiener and supervisors. sophie from the planning department. i want to reiterate and we looked at the ordinance and passed the resolution in support of the
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proposal. the planning commission considered the item last thursday, july 18, and did make a motion to approve supervisor kim's proposed legislation but that motion failed. they did want me however to convey to you the votes and that is commissioners moore, sugaya and [inaudible] approved the legislation and an tiny and fong voted no on the legislation and they need a majority so they need four votes to pass the resolution and without that the commission wanted to convey how the failed votes were divided to this body. thank you. >> thank you ms. hayward. we will now open the floor for public comment. if you want to make public comment please come forward. mr. brooks. >> good afternoon one last time. eric brooks representing san francisco green party local
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grass-roots organization "our city" and as coordinator for the ceqa improvement team and make sure and i think we reached an agreement and eyes wide open here and i don't believe and maybe the city attorney can confirm and anything in the new text and with the amendments says that we can't use this process for a subsequent modification, and if we are not able to appeal subsequent modifications i don't think we would support this but i don't think it says that so i wanted to clarify that so you supervisor are aware of it. >> i don't understand the point you're making. can you restate -- >> in your remarks you seemed to indicate we're only able to use this once on one modification -- >> no, no. >> okay. then we got it, and so the main thing i wanted to say
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it's amazing nine plus months. all sides were playing some hard poker at the very beginning but i think as we got through this process we finally realized for the first time in 10 years we were going to come to an agreement. the community ceqa improvement team had to swallow hard on the first approval thing but when first kim's office proposed the ability to appeal modification we realized that was our way that we could -- if we got something substantial on that and that's what this is today we could support the full package and after a decade of battling this out it's a positive sign that all parties have come to the table and get something on the table that we will all grumble about but we can live with and kudos to all three of you and you made this happen and good that it's over
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and we can get some rest. >> thank you. ms. hilton. >> good afternoon supervisors. i just want to thank supervisor wiener for bringing up this challenge to the entire public comment and for having the patience to stick with this and listen to both sides and thank supervisor kim for bringing forward this modification legislation piece and because of the kinds of the last approval and supervisor chiu the consensus maker in the whole process so i am glad to see you are all willing to adopt this legislation as a good faith effort and the positive perception the board and hopefully at the full board of supervisors and i appreciate all your efforts and working with all of us. thank you very much. >> thank you. ms. rogers.
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>> alice rogers. i just want to commend you as well for the legislation supervisor wiener and i commend supervisor kim for what i think is the soul of the legislation, and supervisor president chiu for bringing the two together and molding something that is going to work for everyone. thank you. >> thank you. is there any additional public comment on item 10? seeing none public comment is closed. supervisor kim. >>i would like to make a motion to move the amendments. >> okay. >> and then to move this recommendation to the full board as a committee report. >> okay. so on the amendments can we take the amendments without objection? >> i am happy to after nine plus month toss say this last piece of legislation will finally get out. i'm not going to make any
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analogies beyond that and i will say i might miss the hearings at at land use and ceqa -- almost. >> i'm not sure what we will do in the fall and thank you president chiu and i know everyone compromised this and had to swallow hard and i am appreciative where we are and in is the final piece and i am glad to make the motion. >> we had five hearings before you had to sit through one. this has been quite the process and thank you for participating. so on the motion to accept the amendments can we do that without objection? the amendments are adopted and on the motion for item 10 to forward to the full board as a committee report take that without objection. that is the order. madam clerk is there
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any other business before the committee? >> that concludes our business for the day. >> then we are adjourned. >> hi. welcome to san francisco. stay safe and exploring how you can stay in your home safely after an earthquake. let's look at common earthquake myths. >> we are here at the urban center on mission street in san francisco. we have 3 guest today. we have david
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constructional engineer and bill harvey. i want to talk about urban myths. what do you think about earthquakes, can you tell if they are coming in advance? >> he's sleeping during those earthquakes? >> have you noticed him take any special? >> no. he sleeps right through them. there is no truth that i'm aware of with harvey that dogs are aware of an impending earthquake. >> you hear the myth all the time. suppose the dog helps you get up, is it going to help you do something >> i hear they are aware of small vibrations. but yes, i read extensively that dogs cannot realize earthquakes. >> today is a spectacular day in san francisco and sometimes
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people would say this is earthquake weather. is this earthquake weather? >> no. not that i have heard of. no such thing. >> there is no such thing. >> we are talking about the weather in a daily or weekly cycle. there is no relationship. i have heard it's hot or cold weather or rain. i'm not sure which is the myth. >> how about time of day? >> yes. it happens when it's least convenient. when it happens people say we were lucky and when they don't. it's terrible timing. it's never a good time for an earthquake. >> but we are going to have one. >> how about the ground swallowing people into the
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ground? >> like the earth that collapsed? it's not like the tv shows. >> the earth does move and it bumps up and you get a ground fracture but it's not something that opens up and sucks you up into haddes. >> it's not going anywhere. we are going to have a lot of damage, but this myth that california is going to the ocean is not real. >> southern california is moving north. it's coming up from the south to the north. >> you would have to invest the
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million year cycle, not weeks or years. maybe millions of years from now, part of los angeles will be in the bay area. >> for better or worse. >> yes. >> this is a tough question. >> those other ones weren't tough. >> this is a really easy challenge. are the smaller ones less stress? >> yes. the amount released in small earthquakes is that they are so small in you need many of those. >> i think would you probably have to have maybe hundreds of magnitude earthquakes of 4.7. >> so small earthquakes are not making our lives better in the future? >> not anyway that you can
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count on. >> i have heard that buildings in san francisco are on rollers and isolated? >> it's not true. it's a conventional foundation like almost all the circumstances buildings in san francisco. >> the trans-america was built way before. it's a pretty conventional foundation design. >> i have heard about this thing called the triangle of life and up you are supposed to go to the edge of your bed to save yourself. is there anything of value to that ? >> yes, if you are in your room. you should drop, cover and hold onto something. if you are in school, same thing, kitchen same thing. if you happen to be in your bed, and you rollover your bed, it's not
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a bad place to be. >> the reality is when we have a major earthquake the ground shaking so pronounced that you are not going to be able to get up and go anywhere. you are pretty much staying where you are when that earthquake hits. you are not going to be able to stand up and run with gravity. >> you want to get under the door frame but you are not moving to great distances. >> where can i buy a richter scale? >> mr. richter is selling it. we are going to put a plug in for cold hardware. they are not available. it's a rather complex. >> in fact we don't even use the richter scale anymore. we use a moment magnitude. the richter scale was early technology. >> probably a myth that i hear most often is my building is
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just fine in the loma prieta earthquake so everything is fine. is that true ? >> loma prieta was different. the ground acceleration here was quite moderate and the duration was moderate. so anyone that believes they survived a big earthquake and their building has been tested is sadly mistaken. >> we are planning for the bigger earthquake closer to san francisco and a fault totally independent. >> much stronger than the loma prieta earthquake. >> so people who were here in '89 they should say 3 times as strong and twice as long and that will give them more of an
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