quite a number of residential subdivisions with the single family and multiple family areas and the planning commission reviewed those for our consistency and it was our master plan policies along with checking with the zoning that was in effect that did not recently been approved in 1960. and so this project had and the thing that the departments measure input on these subdivisions was looking at the open spaces that were provided in the landscaping treatment. and it did readily, little look at the bidding forms themselves and other than that it was within the density of them and it was in the other and they were not even the right and at that time so there was very little from that aspect. the project and the other (inaudible) there were two subdivisions and out of a very lengthy review by a planning

that was in the planning department a woman named bruce chafy and i worked with her and i it was in the open spaces that were on the private land that would to be maintained and open for the public open space and they were to be maintained by someone entity and now unfortunately back in those days the planning department was not as sophisticated as this today or the city itself in record things. so the only thing that actually got recorded was a subdivision map itself which references the landscaping map, was to be on file if the sfaoe and the planning department since that time. most of the departments have moved several times and the records have been misplaced somewhere. i have a feeling that maybe they can be found yet. but they have not had a chance to do it and as the president, mentioned, maybe that likely there is a discussion of the item in the minutes of the planning commission if we could establish when it was before the planning commission.

there is also a likelihood that there is minutes when they approve the subdivision. and that was the condition here and this was a condition of the approval for the board of the supervisors and this will be dated on the approval. and it would be on the position of appealable. and you actually have to go to the board of supervisors. in order to qualify that is open space while i basically support the planning department's reasons for denial of it and the reasons for the background report and probably did not understand the significance of the subdivision and then reviewed it and faced with the fact with the buildings that are san francisco and they were not ones that the city would approve today under the discretionary review. and it was the project and the

architect design tried to meet those guidelines and from the standpoint of what they are already faced and with the green space. >> sorry, i am just double checking your time has run. >> i am sorry. >> i did want to comment one of them. site permit, i think may give more merit to... (inaudible) the project sponsor. >> i can't hear your point. >> i think that the site permit may be more right of being able to pursue with the subdivision and the project than is being said. if you were not buying the argument that was given, then i would strongly urge you to continue this case. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please?

>> >> we have lived there since 84 and i have also been a emergency neighborhood response team through the fire department. one of the things that bothers me about this is as you start changing that is the safety. we had a fire down on the street below us and as we pointed out that having those spaces in between the apartments was very vital. over the time that i have lived there, i have seen the traffic increase and they are asking to increase the traffic some more and open space for the twin peaks across the street from us has been upgraded by the city and we have more tourist and more visitor and more people up on our hill. and that is not a straight through street up there and it goes up and around and back down to market street again and

so the only people up there are the people that will live there and the tourist and visitors that come up and we have seen an increase in the cars because of the increase of the people in the area. and to add more cars to this it would... that density and it makes it hard mou for the people in the area to park and for our visitor and we have a terrible time having our visitors find a place to park. i think that it is strange that they would put a five foot space between windows, between buildings these people have those windows and have been using them for all of this time. thank you. >> thank you. >> shiela and i am before the

board to request that the board reverse the issuance of permit 1293586. the permit holder alleges in their brief that the lot i rye side on is the only sizeable vacant portion belonging to a single parcel and facing a public right-of-way. that other unbuilt areas are either too small or shared by two adjoining owners, making them more difficult, it is not impossible to develop. his argument is if this permit were to be upheld by this board, with the spots left undeveloped in the san francisco neighborhood. >> the allegations are completely false. and he has put forth to this board erroneous information meant to mislead you and in

surveying the property the 70 crest line lot is actually the third smallest lot of all 14 lots throughout the development. and furthermore, of the 14 lots, ten of those are owned by one single owner. only four of the lots are owned by two of the parties but as i pointed out to the board. and developed and i can provide this board with the accounting of the lot sizes in question but i want to make real quick one point in regards to the pictures not only are they good at fudging the numbers they are good at fudging the pictures. this is the picture and the current state of the development. my window faces that lot and tourists are going up and down this is the twin peaks bus stop at the top here and the tourists and neighbors alike are traveling that area, it is clean and well maintained i stair at it every day because it is my own window.

>> sorry, which one is your window? >> something that we can see. >> yes, mine is right here. >> and the following pictures that i have here as well, are the additional two of the larger spaces as you can see this is another one that many tourists use to take pictures, and it faces out and right below our building this is much larger than the current structure, in question. and finally, another this is a second largest. or i am sorry, this one is the 8th largest. and the one that i just showed you was the second largest lot. madam president and members of the board i selected this location due to these open spaces and because of the quiet peaceful nature of this community. i asked that you give much weight to former zoning administrator mr. pass moore's testimony, these spaces were intended by the original developers to be left open, while we have a housing crisis before us. a four-unit condo building that

provides no affordable housing at the twin peaks bus stop is not going to solve this problem. >> and we must respect the original intention of the developers and the integration of the spaces throughout the twin peaks community and by up holding this permit, a dangerous precedent. >> rour time has long past. >> that is why i urge and respectfully request that you deny this application. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> and next speaker please. >> good evening. i'm kristin kylie and i live at 66 crest line and i have for 30 years just down from the property that we are discussing and as a resident of the long time resident of the area i am here to say that san francisco is known for its quality of life for its free spirit in its

character that allows its residents to express our modern and progressive life styles and importance of view and all of this lends itself to living in that area as an ex-tening of the entire city. and the free spaces allow or integral to the entire quality of life of living up there. and not only do they provide us for safety knowing that at any time in the event of fire and any other emergency we can make the quick exits that these areas provide and knowing that we can, the area express our nature and our appreciation of having open space around us. having clear air funneling through our area where we live. all of this is important to the lifestyle that we had chosen

and that we have on the hill it is very breezy and a place to live as anyone knows. >> and we love living up there and infusing the life on the hill. just to cover up these areas would be to to create a blacktop jungle up there that nobody would care to live in the future. thank you. >> thank you. >> next speaker please? >> my name is nancy o'brien and i have lived in san francisco for 25 years on crest line on previously on park ridge, my objection to the loss of the green space is aesthetics of course, and based also on the evidence that shows that these were intended and they were

planned. the subdivision was by the brothers if you don't know, look it up. when the board of supervisors committee was considering this, they said, supervisor boa said that the history of twin peaks development is the history of many mistakes going back to 1937. and when the area was zoned for apartments, planners persuaded the developer to preserve some of the historic peaks. they owned all of this land across the street. they could have built another bunch of amounts and i guess that is what the planning department accomplished. and as they say shortly before the board of supervisors heard this. since june, 1961, the planning department has been working with the gelerts to hire an architect for the first time in their long history of san francisco building. and persuaded them to lower the profile of the 21 acre project and cut the density of development. and at the board of supervisors

meeting, several supervisors spoke out against it, however legally their hands were tied. he mentioned the board of supervisors minutes, there they are. that is the whole thing for the approval of a subdivision that is how things were done. the planning agreement and the subdivision map, said that there would be a planting plan and there was landscaping every single one of those spots has hort culture plants and evidence of terracing and there was planting plan initially. and of course, when the buildings were sold off, that went out the window. but the subdivision map says that there will be a planting plan and the subdivision map also shows the limits of the development. and here is a lot line, well let's, here is a divided one and a lot line, and for the lines on either side are the limit of building.

they were not given cart blanche to build every inch of every street in this subdivision. >> okay, thank you. >> next speaker. >> hi my name is frank and i am a long term resident of san francisco, and thank you commissioners for being here this evening. and i want to share some images with you as a sharing of what twin peaks used to be and some of my own photographs and i am

a artist and i am going to show you the great places that possibly be removed from our community. i urge you to repeal this permit. i have worked for turner broadcasting and the discovery channel and i was the director for the san francisco arts festival for two years and i never owned a car in my life and i have done that because i love muni and i can only imagine what this is going to look like if these developments go through and we have to put ladders on the outside of our 37, to get up the hill. this new housing development cold rush shines as bright as the dome as the city hall and it happens alongside the new california green rush. and we need to take our local warming responsibility in harmony with the global effort to reduce the global warming in the universe there is hardly any life and they have not discovered any life except here on planet earth and that makes one tree and one blade of grass

precious and so the larger vision is wanted here and your wisdom can help, we the people emphasize the value of our green verses the gold and the argument that the building having gone up is going to be benefit the creatures like the mission blue butterfly is ludicrous. and putting the ivy on the side of a building does not give you the value that we get from the open spaces that we maintain and thank you for taking time to look at the images and i think that the speaker will want you to indulge in the beauty and there is one vineyard left and those administrators in france must have left that there and when you travel up to that area which now on twin peaks spicing hamburgers to kill our dogs.

consider our appeal and deny this building permit. thank you. >> thank you. >> next speaker. >> my name is don berm man and i am one of the owners of 74 crest line which is right next door to this proposed project and i have owned the building for 29 years, i bought it because the real estate person that sold me the previous owner said that there will not be an open building, they are not allowed to build buildings there, i would not had bought that building had i known that i have to look out of my window and a few feet away from anywhere i have had gorgeous view for my family and friends and tenants we are going to have this monster trinext to us

and i just want believe that any planning department would allow something like this. this will also reduce the value of my building, i strongly believe that, plus. the tenant that i rent to and my future tenants and i will have to take lesser rents i spent half of my life building this building and we put in a new green area next to this proposed project and i put up a brand new wall so that you could see it from down the street which will be blocked by this that they are proposing to put in and i spent almost $100,000 so are they going to reburs me for what i have put out? and i just want to say that i object to this process and i beg the board to do something to stop this before they ruin

our area. >> your building is north? >> north of the project? >> my building is right next door which is north of the project. >> thank you. >> and these pictures that they are showing are deceptive pictures and i think that you should go there and take a look at the property and that will give you a clear picture of what is going on. >> next speaker. hello, i'm john, and i am the other owner of 74 crest line. and i have lived there since 1985 in one of the apartments as my business parter has lived in an apartment since 1985. besides all of the loss of the green space, park and

congestion and all of that i am concerned about wind damage. we had a lot of wind damage and it blew our siding off and the $100,000 job, but we just did my partner was talking about the wall. it is the exterior wall against next to the public staircase. at any rate, if a building goes in there, we are going to have even a stronger wind tunnel through there, and i am concerned about that also for my plants and i have replanted and i am also concerned about that too because the loss of the sunlight.

i hate to see the loss of that and as my business partner said we will be looking out one of our windows staring into this building and it is fairly deceptive and the photos are and they did a great job with the photoshop. >> thank you. >> next speaker please? >> good evening commissioners my name is grant wilson and i am a 13 year resident on crest line drive in reviewing the material put forth by the project sponsor, and reviewing some of the notes from november 13th, i have two questions. things that we wanted to consider not necessarily directly related to the questions of open space, but in housing need. i found no questions in

regarding housing need either with the san francisco plan or here in the twin peaks portion of the san francisco plan. and i just see this project as being unnecessary. you have a four bedroom, town house on the top, and i just wondered what family can afford in san francisco a four bedroom house, where a two bedroom in twin peaks rents for 2500 a month and i did not see a reference whether they will be for sailor for rent that is not specified and i saw no assessment and no metrics to indicate that this housing project was of need to anyone and so i questioned why is it necessary? to put this project here? or any other project of that type. thank you. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please?

>> in your hands. >> good evening. thank you for your service. and i know that you are exhausted i just want to talk and i leave the technicalities to them i want to speak as a resident for 20 years since my son was four. i am lucky that i was able to raise him here and he is a native san franciscan and we have always be proud of our area, those open spaces what they have done is really magic. like i like everyone else i agree if you could go and take a look there is very little narrow places that make a big difference. and the green area. and i catch the bus on castro and i come up and a lot of tourists ride the bus and they just like we have a lot more people when my son was little,

and there is a lot of parking space but not because the rent is too expensive too many people are rooming together and there is hardly any other parking space and we have one garage and so when i come at night he always makes sure that if i am working with me and the garage because sometimes i have to walk two blocks and park all around the neighborhood and worries he is always like mom are you okay and are you home? >> so please, think about that. >> thank you. >> would you like to state your name for the record. >> carly bravo >> thank you. >> next speaker. >> good evening and thank you very much for your time. and that was my mother who just spoke and i think everything that needs to be said has been

said, but i just want to second i guess, everything that everybody has said. and i just have to clarify and reiterate this again because it is so, so important that i urge you to go and look at that space, it is amazingly deceptive what they did with that picture. but our neighborhood is very con jected now and parking is an issue, and there just are not that many green areas left in san francisco and that is one of the few spots that is still has green areas and it is very important for all of the residents of the neighborhood and we are very tight knit community and i just, this will set a dangerous precedent. and it will be a shame to see all of those green spaces go. over a little money and again,

this is not about housing, this will help in the housing crisis in the city. so i respectfully ask that you will give this a deep thought and thank you very much. >> and would you care to state your name for the record. >> adrian bravo. >> thank you very much. >> next speaker please? >> hello, my name is michael and i am actually resident at 70 crest line drive on the top floor and so if you see the i am the top window right there. so that is me. i have been a proud resident of san francisco and i moved from boston two years ago when i first moved here i stayed with friends in the castro and they recommended that i actually climb to the top of twin peaks and i got to go up these staircases and it was a beautiful experience and now actually i run the health and wellness for a healthcare arguization no 65 medical centers and hospitals which is

7,000 healthcare workers and it is really important for me and having this five-foot shaft worries me for my health and wellness and for the family. and my family in home in indiana. and this experience is magical and the nature is necessary and the pictures are deceptive and when i do make my way home from california i do have to walk two or three flights of stairs down to find park and back up and so adding the residents to the neighborhood is really going to create a confrontational culture to this community and i strongly recommend that you rethink this and i can imagine how exhausted you are so thank you. >> thank you. >> next speaker please? >> thank you. >> good evening, my name is martha and i have been a

resident at 70 crest line drive since 2007 and i know that it is late and so i am very grateful for this opportunity to speak. i believe that 70 crest line drive is the last place that a building should be built. this image shows that the proposed building wedged between these stairs and these apartments is this building eliminates green area and crowds the fire hydrant area. and the lane stairs are built around a surrounding green area that connect directly to the twin peaks stairs, it is mentioned in the tourist literature on-line and as a great urban hike area, the daily tourists arrive by car to access the peaks via the stairs and this makes the street parking competitive and difficult, and fortunately the residents have six parking spaces and at the base of the green space and these will be eliminated if the proposed

building is built. residents really need this parking and this is a very high density residential area compounded by tourism and requires parking in addition to the resident garages and another reason why there should be no building at 70 crest line is that this particular green area and vista lane are the final links of the chain of stairs leading to the twin peaks stairs and heavily used by people and animals. my apartment is one of the six windows facing the green space and i see in here the people and animals all of the time. the twin peaks nature area they traverse between the residential side and the twin peaks as it is now the green area next to the vista lane offers a retreat for the animals should they encounter people on the stairs, the 70 press line green provides public safety for both people and animals. one last thing that i would

like to say is what is really needed is we have tourists who often take shelter in 74 and 70 crest line drive entry ways because they are not prepared for the turn of the weather and we really need, they sit on the curb and on the stairs and they sit in our entry ways but what is needed here is not a building, we need a shelter. and so, i would like to thank you for listening. >> i urge you to deny this permit thank you very much. >> next speaker. >> i work with the architects on gaining permits through the planning building and so forth and while i drew up the packets which includes going after the (inaudible) of the buildings and the surrounding areas and