ms. lafrmz rear wall so any kind of prices we're going to saying we're not intruding on her light. there's been some studies done and this is the more and more sun we're not casting my shadow on her property and in the afternoon it's just the opposite. were her blank wall is casting a shadow on our property. we feel it's a aspire design to what's there we're p.o. box the reconfigured deck up against this blank wall and the majority of mid open space is out in this

area here and by p.o. box the deck in this manner we're down to this corner to have light into her property and we feel we're not impacting the neighbors and providing a better solution which is approximately centered in the property. on all accounts we're proposing a better solution and i'd like to say we've addressed a lot of ms. lambs - we've made efforts to address ms. lambs issues with the project and she keeps saying she wants it to be in the same spot it is. i believe we do have to demolish

this section so if we were to demolish the deck and have it in the same configuration we'd have to have is a firewall too close to hers and that's on undo hardship and creates, you know, trash and other things and be of no use to the current oerpdz of the property. also i think it wouldn't be possible to do that in any way by the way, u because you couldn't gain access to the walls for the maintenance of the walls it wouldn't be allowed to build a structure of this manner. i and i want to have the owner

speak as well >> good afternoon. i just wanted to @ add onto the point of view this is a primary place of enjoyment for the backyard. as andy showed this is my background and there's a wooden structure two feet away from that firewall and this creates better protection against the property than what she has. we've been dealing with this for two years and i have in this packet two letters from residents i wanted to show you

that they're here. this property and abuts our backyard additional she was a large deck structure and she provided a letter he saying this is no privacy southerners to her. and there's another letter from that resident saying the same thing and welcoming the project to continue. our family i'm on the mid unit and the upstairs our upstairs neighbors have 2 children and our downstairs neighbors have 2 and they want the enjoyment of their backyards. my wife and i have a wedding reception in our backyard and we

won't be able to use the deck for that because the structure is unsafe >> thank you. >> any other speakers in support of the project? okay seeing none. john a do you suggest we close the public hearing >> so is there representative of the dr requester to give a rebuttal. >> you would have two minutes in order to respond to what you've harder. >> no response 90 from me and to the project sponsor you have an option of 2 minutes for additional information. >> yes. i again so far as what's there now so far as what we're proposing is just a

reconvene formulation of 65 square feet in size. and the way it's configured it's meant to be done in a sensitive manner to law the light in. so the existing stair of what's there the majority of the structure that's really a mass of the stairway but by creating the proposed design the way you know the deck is down and the stairs are configured in the way this year you don't have a mass in the backyard anymore and it leafs, you know, is corner of this rear yard opens to light and this the the corner that

shows all other bakdz and we're doing a good service to all the other neighbors so thank you >> thank you. the public hearing portion of this item is closed. commissioner moore awaits variance granted it's easy to realize that the conflict deck achieves the purpose. i don't see why this is worth i didn't have dr >> so the motion is not take dr and . >> yes and approve. >> another comment.

>> no, he he was correcting me. >> if there's nothing further commissioner not to take dr and approve as property (calling names) so moved commissioners that passes 5 to zero and places you under public comment i have one speaker card. >> allen. good afternoon, commissioners. >> good afternoon. i'm an architect and i'm presently working on a project with the planning department for a two-story residents in the westportal neighborhood. the reason i'm here is that i'd like to know if the planning

commission has amended the residential design guidelines. i've talked about the planner and i've spoke to his team leader and i've asked them questions about chapter four which is about scale and form. i've asked them why they're taking at position of requiring my clients to set back their vertical addition 15 feet from the fronts of the existing building. i haven't gun control any answer from planning staff and they told me that the addition has to come down from the planning director. i can't stand why the reason for this. the thing is you know when i read the chapter four on scale

land form it speaking specifically about vertical additions that are beyond what the scale or the heights of the exciting residents in this neighborhoods are. the one thing it asked for is any vertical addition not be a new as an. we've tried to move our project 10 feet it's behind the evaluation and it has a tall roof. so all that's seen is about 3 feet of our vertical addition. in comparison to all the other receipts it's the one adjacent

residence that's a little bit lower than the roofline. the adjacent neighbors has a roof that's taller than my clients residence. and so in comparison our vertical addition is a couple feet taller and next to that we've got an apartment building and down the street is a 2 1/2 story resident and throughout the neighborhood we've got 3 story residence >> your time is up. >> when can i come back for - >> yeah. >> well, we can't and this is

not a q and a period. >> this is about the residential guideline and why - >> can we have a conversation outside of the premises here. >> just to the gentleman. the commission is not in a position to get into a dialog with you because this is not a scheduled item. the public item is to present information we want to hear but we don't get engaged in any dialog at this point >> with that meeting is adjourned

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