at fulton last week the recycling center at webster and gary has closed so this is - it brings back forward for us to really working to help develop a policy that we need to develop for our small businesses because more and more biz businesses are going to revelers for the closures. supervisor change of venues from family friendly workplace ordinance had it, it's second hearing excuse me. last thursday. there were i think i sent to you an update of additional amendments on that.

and there was no formal decision on whether it was going to stay at the ballot or move forward through the process. but as it stands - or that last to my knowledge it is proposed as a ballot measure. there's one more rules committee meeting tomorrow morning and we'll have a better indication of whether it's going to be on the ballot or likely i can't say that for sure but we'll have some indication on that. but it needs to have if it's going to stay on the ballot it needs onerd at the board of supervisors by july 30th which is a week from tuesday. one item that i want to bring to

your attention in 2010 the city introduced a weighs and measures around the san francisco system and san francisco was one of the last counties to implement some kind of regulatory around electronic po s systems. it happened quickly, you know, chris identified that it was coming through and so we were be able to with work the department of health. we couldn't get into the deep discussion of the definition of a po s system. i think in those 3 years since then there's been a significant change in what is an electronic

po s system. i don't think, you know, even at that time the use of entities such as a square and mobile apps was a full reality. and so and i think my understanding in terms of the state level the usual idea was through the rarpts scale vast volumes of products that was placed on the shelf and scanned. we're starting to receive some calls in the office but if you, too are being contacted by merchant and the department of public health weighs and measures coming into license and permit them please let us know. we're work with the department of public health to get their

criteria but knowing the vast amounts of systems that businesses use it is complex and so to get an understanding as to you can some people it's through let is one business is a hair salon and they have a few products but have combined their products through software. so i think there's many different ways in which businesses are using their point of sale. so as you're talking to businesses please encourage them to contact me but in the a

department project but also a commission project to take into account. thank you. i'm getting lots of calls. i went into a restaurants the other day and a guy shoemz his bill what is this he asked. now i'm saving this to show him. that, you know, he just added another reasonable and he said this is ridiculous. there's ways around this i'm not going to bring that up but this is before the square and mobile apps >> it's interesting it's not just a weight concept but to verify the point of sale. >>right. >> we were top of weights and

measures. >> i was surprised that the restaurant got that. >> i think i added the definition because i went back to the 2010 legislation and i added the definition. it does say any other system that relies on electronically stored information and that's board >> he said i don't weigh anything why am i getting weights and measures and i remember that a few he meetings ago we're thinking of the weighing scale to make it a pint and a half so we were definitely - this is definitely a very important. >> and you may see that people are getting rid of their point of sale machines and cash only.

>> it might be better for them to come into for another presentation. >> this has just come into the radar but i'll let you know i know you're out talking to businesses and you hear things and so - and i think that since their implementation i can only, you know, guess they've been working with the larger departments or the larger businesses in terms of doing the implementation in the 2010 ordinance so they're now just getting to the smaller businesses. and the measure we did here a few months ago from the department of weighs and measures was strictly around the scales. this is very different than the po s system

>> i went when we heard the point of sale and they talk about the scales. i never put the two and two together. we probably need to have them come back and talk about that >> yes, we will be working so they'll about another august project. we'll be fielding more calls. and then i did want to while this - we can't have the substantial discussion but the area code is there's no update at that particular point but the task force there's no particular date but the task force will be coming to some closure in the next couple of months so many

recommendations will be starting to be developed and i'll keep you apprised. i didn't put this into the update but the small pet stores that came up requesting a hearing of the commission. so i now know that the planning department is planning to have the court instructs the jury ice hearing for the lombard street location on august 8th. and so this is now put - i know the commission is interested in hearing the item is august 12th. so i - anyway commissioner adams has argued a special meeting so hear it so i will have

conversations with you on that after the meeting. okay. and then, of course, i did want to - we've all acknowledged chris. it's his last meeting as our commissioner secretary but his official last day is august 9th so you have a couple weeks to get e-mails from chris and have your conversations with him. i want to present the timeline that the h.r. department has laid out for us. but the optimum is a 3 month process to get a replacement. i will - once i've submitted, you know, the jobs - the job description but it's not been

posted. once it's posted it be 3 months >> do very have someone in the intermediate. >> the intermediate put that will rotate among staff to help run the meetings by after august 9th it will be me probably facility a lot of the legislation logistics. let's cross our fingers we have a quiet time until the board recess >> you working on the replacements. >> yes. >> and your timeline to be 3 months? >> i'd like my timeline to be less than that but the optimum time they say is 3 months. >> the sooner the better. a government job >> so with that there's any

questions i will, you know, conclude my report. >> okay. next item please. item 13 commissioners presence report. >> i don't have anything to report at this time. >> commissioner item fourteen is departments report. >> no report? >> next item. >> commissioner reports. >> commissioner reilly. >> yes. i attended the meeting with s pa. and jan was in attendance as well. and lawrence louie from the small business center and we're going about having a chinese lecture. the bank did is a two day workshop in la and it's

successful and they want one in san francisco. the advantage is we already have all the materials traditional in chinese. so to find a place to hold a meeting and invite business owners >> we need a place. >> commissioner. >> i attended the merchant counsel meetings on the 16th. they discussed david chu's family friendly legislation. they discussions some formula retail around pets express. and i also want to announce that supervisor tanking will be sponsoring an ad add summit with feinsteins office our office and

smart len 0. i spoke with smart len 0 and he's pleased to hear we're going to moderate. so supervisor is going to find a spot and day to a move it forward >> a board update on the mission. i want to commend the office of supervisor campos and the mission acknowledge agency. the business is now better so it's a real, real consolidated effort to let folks know we can keep the businesses in the community >> great. >> thank you. >> any other commissioner reports? next item please. next item is general public

comment >> do we have anybody here to make comments on any future meetings? seeing none, public comment is closed >> next item please. commissioner that places you on item 17, new business? >> any new business? >> seeing none, next item. >> commissioners that places you on item 18. is there a motion and i want to motion on honor of chris >> commission meeting adjourned at

>> and welcome to the san francisco land use and economic development committee. i am scott wiener the chair of the committee and to my right is jane kim who is the vice chair and to my left is david chiu. our clerk today is lisa miller. i want to thank sfgtv for broadcasting today's hearing and specifically jessie and mark and those that can't sit in the room we have an over flow room. we have public comment cards at the front. if you're interested in speaking fill out a card and the item number that you want to make public comment. madam clerk any announcements? >> yes. please silence all