think that it is an ab&b rental that pushes the deepist into our rear yard. and the rear yard and the west side of the block. and it is a really gracious open space and i am sorry. this is illustration in the exhibit b in your packet and it will give you a sense and it is hard to see if you would like at exhibit b in your packet. and it is a really gracious historic open rear yard that we would like to have you take a second look and see if that or what role the design guidelines should play at preserving 100 year old rear yard open space because it is just going to keep getting being filled in, the more that we push out, it

is just going to keep getting filled in and that neighbor who unfortunately passed away, and their house is going to get developed and they are going to push in and the next one is going to push in. and we have had 20 years of people holding the line, and we... >> time is up. >> thank you. >> are there any other speakers in support of the dr requestor? >> okay. and if not, project sponsor, please? >> good afternoon commissioners john kevelin on behalf of the sponsors the project proposes a very modest rear expansion of a home to provide space for a family. i would like to have the sponsor speak to the goals of

the project. >> i am not very comfortable speaking in front of people, especially in english, so i wrote out a few things i wanted to say about my family. my name is (inaudible) and my husband is (inaudible) and i have made san francisco our home for 16 years. when we decided to have children, it was important that we do our best to try and replicate the multigenerational family structure in which we are raised in japan. while raising our children in san francisco. we want to create a home where our parents can stay comfortably for extended period of time. to build a relationship with our children and to teach our children about our culture. and on behalf of me and my husband, i thank you for your

time. >> thank you. >> so once again commissioners, the proposed a very modest project, a 15 foot addition at the basement and the ground foot levels and it will replace a deck at the second floor level and only 5 feet deeper than the existing deck and incorporates several recommendations in the residential design guidelines and set back on the upper stories so the top two stories are not moving out whatsoever and not being touched. and it also does not maximize the permitted rear yard. and the rear yard required in this district is 25 percent. and they are providing a 40 percent rear yard and so they are not maximizing the rear yard that is permitted and in addition they are providing open railings on that deck to help to reduce the look of the mass of the structure. now with respect to the mid block and the addition is not going to stand out on this block. if i could get the projector,

please? >> and thank you. >> and so as you can see, as you move down the block, we have got the structures that are generally in this area and as you move further to the east you will see that you have structures that are because of the way or the way or the diagonal and the way of the front and rear lot lines and we have the homes at the very east end of the block that are far deeper than at the west end and of course you will see the one building, but it is relevant and adjacent to the building. it has been reviewed twice by the residential design team and no modifications were ever required. and in both adjacent neighbors are in support of the project and the most impacted and the east neighbor conditioned the support on maintaining a firewall along the property line and so as it was explained by her, it will provide a space for the multigenerational family from three to five bedrooms and as you heard, they have two young children, and

they also have two grandmothers that will be spending extended periods of time with them because they live in japan so we are going from three to five bedrooms and very appropriate space for a family of this size. they are actually disappointed that they have been unable to satisfy their neighbors and purposefully designed a modest project from the start to avoid the opposition and responded to the rear neighbor's concerns with pry va sit by proposing a hedge along the property line. thank you. >> you will see at the very rear of the property line they have got to put in a hedge that will be 30 feet tall and as the staff mentioned there lindsey mentioned there is a good 100 feet between the rear of the project sponsor's property and the dr requestor's property and that is a picture from the rear yard, and this, the lots are also sloped down towards the dr requestor's lots and they are also, several feet lower than the project sponsor's property, so you add that with the 30

foot landscaping hedge and they will not be able to see this project. and the privacy concerns have been adequately addressed here we believe. i don't need to remind you guys that the city has made the creation of the family sized housing a priority in the newest housing element and this is a great opportunity to create family housing for an actual family within the existing housing stock and we believe that the rear expansion of the property that expands five feet behind the deck and recommendations of the residential design guidelines does not rise to the level of exceptional circumstance and we request that you follow the staff recommendation and not take dr. >> speakers in support of the project sponsor? >> if there are any. >> okay. if not, dr requestor you have a two-minute rebuttal. >> we certainly don't want to

be hostile or advercerial. >> the five foot extension of the existing deck which has now been torn down seems minor and the deck itself was very small and very lightweight and this will not be completely filled in, this is a huge additional volume behind that house. and so we still feel as if it is inappropriate extension to the home. and we wish that we would have been more engaged in a compromise process, we were not. i have never been through this process but i was told that this is the only way to have that kind of conversation with this developer, i certainly don't fault the new owners in any way. this is a developer problem from my perspective. >> you have a two-minute rebuttal. >> thank you. >> again, commissioners, just to speak to the out reach of this project and they did have the dr requestors did not to the preapplication meeting

but they did agree to a project meeting at the dr requestor's home to discuss these issues and they had three or four week e-mail conversation back and forth about the compromise over this project and ultimately leading into an e-mail from the dr requestor saying that they are not willing to compromise on any expansion on the envelope and considering the fact that the goal was to provide adequate space for the family and the grand parents, they did not feel like this was something that they could do without expanding the envelope of the building that speaks to that issue. >> just to emphasize that a few remaining points. the proposed addition will extend five feet and we have the landscaping in the back in addition to the 100 feet between the two buildings and the drop between the two buildings should take care of any privacy concerns, and two rear or two rear story pop outs are actually quite common on this block if we could get the projector.

and well, if you see that the rear of this, dr requestor has, and there you go, it has the similar additions on the back of the homes as well. so again, both neighbors are in support of this project and who will be the most impacted by the project and again it will provide adequate space for a family who actually desires to live in san francisco to stay in san francisco. so not only is this project not rise to the level of exceptional and extraordinary circumstances it also appeals to the major policy of the city and we request that the city follows the staff recommendation and not take dr. >> thank you. >> the public hearing is closed. and opening up to commissioner comments, commissioner moore? >> looking at this project, i do believe that there was residential design team's analysis is completely spot on. i think that it is a minor addition and where i found interesting is that looking at this map, which really kind of gives you the foot prints of what looks like a regular rise block between jackson and

washington. and internal platting of that block is actually highly irregular and which seems in this particular case that the and the additional distance between the building which is just trying to project the minor expansion in the building which is owned by the dr, and by the dr requestor and it is very interesting to see the platting because the building is set back on the jackson street side are all receding including an increased depth of the mid block open space and the fact that the intrusion in code of the building is really only 5 feet does it not each bring it in any kind of sweat of depth as from the party house and it is for us to comment as to that is

appropriate that meets the guidelines that is analyzed by the residential guidelines. and this is modest and appropriate to the circumstance and i move to approve. >> second. >> commissioner antonini. >> i know that the number of statements made by the project sponsor, i just want to verify that this is a talk about it gog only five feet u are going 15 feet from the back of the house and is it true that the existence between the house and the house of the armstrongs at 3974 washington is 100 feet? >> and that is what i estimated it to be, yes. >> and so basically we are still leaving... and the 85-foot section there, so i am not sure, i would like to, you know, see what i could do something on these instances to always see if there was anything that you could do to

help the dr requestor? but i can't see where the impact is that great given the amount of space that exists between the two houses. >> yeah, 100 feet away, this subject property is on the north side of the street. and not blocking the south light. and this used the term holding the line and i appreciate that and i think that is what we try to do here. and i just don't thing this one crosses the line. and it is not a huge volume that is being added or proposed. and so i am as well, in support of the project. commissioner sugaya? >> yes, i have one question for the dr requestor? you keep referring to the project sponsor as the developer. i am curious as to why you are using that term when the project sponsor has been identified as this family? >> (inaudible). >> well, okay. thank you. >> i will support the motion, i

don't see anything extraordinary in it, as a matter of fact i think that it is kind of nice that there is actually a family and it is an extended family who is committed to living into san francisco when we are seeing so many fleeing the city for other places. >> commissioner antonini? >> yeah, i am to the points that were made about somehow this addition causing other additions to occur? what is only, this is the only thing that is before us today and any additions that might come in the future, will have to be evaluated on their own merits and just because this addition is allowed does not mean that there is going to be easier slating for anybody else that would do a larger addition in the future. >> commissioners if there is nothing further, there is a motion and a second to not take the dr and approve the project as proposed. >> antonini. >> aye. >> borden. >> aye. >> hillis. >> aye. >> moore. >> aye >> sugaya. >> aye. >> wu. >> aye. >> fong. >> aye.

>> so moved commissioners that motion passes 7-0. places you under public comment, i have no speaker cards. >> i have to make a comment about something that was said, recently because of the circumstances totally beyond my control, i have had the privilege of last two days, walking down lumbard street and they are not 24 vacantcies. and i have done this study and i was not finished because i did not put it in the packet and look in your e-mails as soon as i finish it tomorrow block by block there is a lot of rentals that have happened in the last three months and some things that look vacant aren't like the old blue bore location

so you know. >> and i think we will just do it block by block and take pictures and show you what is there and that is the most honest fair way of doing it. >> okay? >> to tell you the truth, i am tired of hearing conflicting things all the way around. and for me to have to walk the street a fourth time with witnesses. and i am not very happy. and 14 blocks on a hurt leg does not help me. bye bye, have a nice evening. >> thank you. >> any additional public comment? >> closing this meeting in memory of alice kay. thank you. please rise for the

of allegiance. and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> president i'd like to call

roll. >> please do. >> (calling names) president you have a quorum. >> ladies and gentlemen welcome to the july 24th san francisco police commission meeting. this is the last wednesday of the month we're going to meet and as we do the last wednesday of every month we meet out in the community. ? our farther promise. there's 10 district station so we do it 10 months out of the year and we take november and december off. captain will be our main event.

we also before the meeting let you know about the commissioners and what we do in our day programs. we have a special guest. i'm going to introduce the supervisor please (clapping) >> i was going to do give you the big one. >> no, i just want to welcome everybody and thank you for coming out. we actually meet with our captain every month at argue station monthly meeting. it's one of our highest most heavy attended meetings. it shows that a lot of people in the neighborhoods care about public safety issue. i want to thank the commissioners to come out and meet with us in the district >> thank you very much.

so ladies and gentlemen without further awe due to my left green dr. marshall >> dr. joe marshall i'm the dosh director of the live and free boy's club. been in this building many times a form employee with the school district for years and i was out here a lot. nice to be here again. commissioner >> good evening and thank you for having us out it's a pleasure to be here. my name is viewingus i'm the vice president of police commission. i'm head of the labor and employment group of reed smith which is a law enforcement and

my progression it litigation coming up >> hello, i'm sue i didn't i'm one of your neighbors. i'm living and raising my family in the district. would have my daughters go to the neighborhood schools. my mom lives here with us i know they're going to pop-in here at one point so if you see kids it's not mine. thank you to supervisor tanking we love to come out out we're and it says a lot about the support from the supervisors. my background i'm a form prosecutor in san francisco and i see some colleagues ron from the district attorney's office. i come foot prospective to do

everything with he can to make sure that the law and safety and use the best ideas are implemented. my day job i work not bay view so i travel across the city where work in a health and wellness center for kids. we recognize from the public safety prospective it's not a case we can arrest our way out of kids are living in a bad situation so we support them. this is our farther time so, please if there's something on your mind take the time to share >> i'm tom. i'm a native san franciscan. my career i started off as an

assistant district attorney and was an assistant u.s. attorney in the crimes unit. i'm in a private practice we represent judges and attorneys. i love going to do every different community and coming here and hearing what's going on. so it's important to hear from you. we have our meetings at city hall we have a crowd that shows up but we're out here in your neighborhood so don't be shy. call item one >> prior to that commissioner i failed to froots chief of police and also ms. joyce hicks from the office of citizens

complaints and a item one chiefs report. >> good evening. i'm greg your chief of police. i've been chief about two years. i grew up out here and went to school next door. i live in the district pretty much straight up the hill by hoover and certainly everything that happens in san francisco is important to me by you see it coming and going as i move around the district. our family grew up over by westportal we do come to this districts i take it like coming

home. i'm going to a defer most of my time to the captain who's trying to hide. it's been my experience they will find you. so we've been busy. we obviously had the one week where we had the plein crash but pretty much out for our last commission meeting there was an incident at 888 brendan street where a young man went into a jeweler mart and killed two women and injured another. officers were on their way back to the hall of justice and shots were fired at the officers thankful nobody was a great wo their ground and got him and the

weapon into custody. the mail victim is still alive by unfortunately not able to save the two women arrest on saturday night the officers being in the right place pretty much drove into an active gunfights between two factions with a dispute over the territory. luckily nobody else was hurt and the intersection was crowded and accident streets were crowded. one person engaged in the conflict was killed another was injured and the gun and the suspects were taken into custody and he's been referred to prosecution. the good news is those evidence are happening less often but their happening too often for

anyone else's tastes but regardless the officers were where they needed to be and they're standing up for the folks who can't take care of themselves in their situations up against some of the weapons. on a lighter side we continue to engage the children in san francisco first year our jobs program is about halfway through a lot of the kids with partnership with the sf giving kids optioned to make good choices. it seems to me to be working. we're but a small piece of the mayors overall program and i think the successes in having a quieter summer is due to a large part our kids are engaged. we had our first ever and we're

partnered with the pacific islanders youth group in invitation valley and we're running a rug by camp. we have a famous rugby smaller fellow about two or three meters which is 6, 6 about 3 hundred pounds and he's fast so i'm glad he only that plays rugby. anyway it's a wonderful thing to have girls role models and boys role models pr i have to give the credit to the rugby folks and for the money from the san

francisco police department fountains and so i'm going to stop there and defer the rest of envy comments to curtis but when the evening it over it's been our tradition we stay around it would be nice to meet everybody >> i have a comment he want to do this during to the public. i want them to understand something. we in san francisco has been blessed with a string of very good police chiefs by you feel that and i'm not given to gratuitous comments but we are we have a particular blessing with the chief we have today. if you have not heard or listened to this chief over the last year or so then you've miss

the opportunity to hear from someone connected to all sectors of our community. hardworking and dedicated and smart but how he does his job. i want to thank the chief for also having an open door and fostering a sense of cooperation throughout the department and seeing a much improved police force in doing their duties. during the month of june people came up to me during the pride celebrations and it's made a remarkable difference to the department and shows in all the officers who follow our leadership.

thank you very much for the job you do (clapping) and a thank you commissioner. and i appreciate the sentiment but again, all the credit goes to the officers doing the work >> please call line item number b and we're going to save the public comment we're going to wait until after the presentation. >> line item 1-b review recent activities. >> good evening members of the police commission. supervisors and captain and members of the audience. i'm joyce hicks the director of the san francisco office of citizen