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so officer mathius or someone. >> hello, commissioners and staff, steve mathius from the central station. over the last weeks probably had four incidents i will talk about tonight. we had on august 11, 2 a.m. a victim was at a nearby bar and walked to beach and columbus and pushed from behind and suffered a fractured right finger, and laceration to the right of the head. looking at report he was a bloody mess. we couldn't figure out, there were two bars in the area and couldn't figure out where it came from. sounds like in the wrong place at the wrong time.
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and then next incident a victim was outside of columbus and attacked and hit in the face and her cell phone taken. what time we bring up these different occurrences, it's important not just for the patrons at the establishments. for someone in the area that may be preying. this is the only report of employee, but it's 4 a.m. and robbed. august 10 there was an aggravated assault in the parking lot next to the cellar. this is disturbing, and ec has been given copies of the report. but one of the things that we didn't like in the narrative. after two 20-year-old girls left the cellar after the party, one 20-year-old was hostile and attacked a 30-year-old member of the party. and they got into an argument
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over stupid stuff, i got anger issues, was her quote. and told officer millgan, that she and her friend were 20 years old and know the person at the club and let them in without i.d. and the rules of being 21, and then you have this girl with anger issues and now with cocktails on board. if not admitted into the club, the whole thing would not have happened. i saw the photos of the victim and she was beat up pretty badly. and last one, club atmosphere had several fights at closing time. i am not going over the report, it's way too long. but if you get a chance, you may want to read it as far as the level of fights. but this is just the summary from the sergeant who was working that night.
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central swing control, three tactical units watched the area. no club reached its patron capacity. club cosmo and fame and broadway studios were closed. parking lots were filled up. traffic was light. it was not like a major weekend where we had thousands and thousands of people. but when club atmosphere closed, patrons started numerous fights on the screen at the intersection of broadway and mo montgomery. officers used pepper spray on one group of fighters, and one
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fighter used a baton to stop a fight choking. and two citations were issued for fighting in public. so they were arrested at the end. so i was getting a lot of phone calls actually from the sergeant that was there. but we wanted you to be aware of that. there was a copy as i said, if you get a chance, you can take a look at it. any questions or comments? >> i have a couple. so putting the atmosphere thing aside. did you say how many clubs were closed? >> it looks like three. >> three clubs were closed on the weekend, and pal is out of business, how many were open, just the one? >> well, you got -- not too many there on that. >> officer mathius, in your estimation, the impact of what has happened on broadway has
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done to what the traffic on that street, decimated it completely? >> i would say there is less out there, why those particular clubs closed. i know that one of them wanted to cater to the americus cup, i don't know if they are still doing that. another club they haven't been open a lot. the person that owns it, owns a lot of the clubs. but i would say there is more clubs closed there than before. >> in other words, what has happened over the years? correct me if i am wrong, it seems to me that what happened over the years is that the enforcement on broadway has succeeded in decimating broadway, you think? >> no, for whatever reason, club cosmo if they are not out. and club fame and studios is
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owned by the same gentleman. >> but no real life but atmosphere. >> if we talk about three clubs, and two owned by the same person, he does a lot of special events. and club cosmo is a gentleman that owns a lot of clubs. and it goes around as far as which ones are open and when. but yeah, you have the impala that is closed. you have some other bars on the street. >> do you know how that has impacted the rest of the street and the other businesses there? how it might have impacted columbus avenue or anything? has it impacted it in a negative way? positive way? >> columbus is usually a different beast, those people are there for dinner and not necessarily the same people coming to broadway. >> it concerns me, when i moved here back before the dawn of
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history. broadway was a very lively street. the stone was open, and it was lively and had a lot of entertainment. and broadway, i come from new york, and new york broadway is a lively street. and other cities that have broadway, it's a lively street. and it just seems to me that broadway has died. and i find that disturbing. because it's businesses are going out of business, obviously. or they are not opening. even if someone only does special events to own a couple of clubs and not open them. makes me think there is another reason. it just doesn't sound right to me. i am a little concerned about the fact that broadway is not lively and vibrant. and it's dead. >> but i think if take a snapshot of anything. if i was up here reporting for
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what we have for every weekend for the entire month. it would be one thing. but if we take a snapshot of that particular night and i mentioned three clubs were closed. >> i don't know, i was in the club business, if i closed one saturday night it majorly impacted my business for the month and possibly for the year. you need to pay rent and insurance and all the bills to pay, you have to be open to pay those bills. i am concerned that a commercial district has been killed. so i wanted your thoughts on it. thank you. >> commissioner hyde. >> personally what i have seen on broadway if i was going to comment on what commissioner joseph is talking about. i don't believe it's the enforcement has killed it. i believe that gang violence is the number one reason that
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broadway is having problems and too much gang violence. that's what have seen. i see club atmosphere and the cellar a lot, like all the time. what is going on that is different in club atmosphere and the cellar that wasn't going on before? that they are constantly on our de incident list? >> i contacted atmosphere and discussed what was going on there. they brought up a lot of different issues. and we are working with them. whether it be the party buses. we are registering the party buses. if there is party buses, they call central station and the lieutenant and the sergeants know who is coming there and they register the buses so arrangements can be made. as far as the cellar, it's a little bit of everything.
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now they are doing a lot of catering to people in the entertainment industry. that's sometimes why we see reports on odd nights. like a sunday night where that's not a traditional night to go out. this other one i believe happened on a saturday night. and i have to say that i talked to one of the officers who talked about the cellar. he said that this last weekend it was perfect. he went by there and everything was -- he was very pleased with it. i think they know that we called up and wanted to know about incident reports from the week before. but they have come up and we are talking with them to see what needs to be done in order to bring it back to the level so we are not having these reports in front of entertainment commission. >> yes, it seems like a lot. so -- >> any other comments, go ahead. >> how is the parking lot doing? >> they are -- like for
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atmosphere there were fights in the parking lot. and the street as well as the sidewalk. it was a spill-over of a mass people in the area. we haven't been getting a lot. this other parking lot that is next to the cellar, we get very few problems out. it seems like if they have to drive into an actual building, there seems to be less problems. less loitering going on, than driving in a lot and people tend to loiter around more often. >> you don't feel that some parking lots have to step up their security? >> there has been, i know on broadway alone there is a lot of of work with them. some as small as increasing the lighting makes a big difference. and hiring security makes a big difference. letting the officers know to let go through there and assist with that makes a big difference.
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>> any other comments? if not, i will open up to public comment. thank you, officers. any other officers from other districts that would like to make a comment? if not, we will take public comment. and this is about the police comments. >> yeah. >> okay. >> my comment was that watching the broadway situation develop is partially due to the factors we talked about. the gang stuff and the violence. and if you look back to 20 years ago or so, it was all live music clubs. and now there is not one. and as a live music operator i
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would be hard pressed to want to open a live music there, and maybe it would do well. and similar things can be said about haight street. >> thank you. any other public comment? seeing none, we will move on to the next item. item 5 review and possible action to change the conditions on the entertainment of brick and mortar at 1710 mission street. we visited this and reviewed and asked brick and mortar to come and evidence of sound proofing and a phone number that someone work that neighbors can call
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should they have complaints. let's try to contain this because discussion has happened. the applicant is here, you are welcome to take the floor, but like i said, there are two things that we are looking for in reviewing the conditions. the sound proofing and that phone number, take it away. >> hi, i am jason perkins and i want to thank audrey joseph and glendon hyde to come down and review the club. i know that's beyond your normal scope of inquiry and i appreciate it. i made one set of copy and talked to jocelyn that invoiced work and pictures and the material that we bought over the last 20 months. the work that we have done, they believe the commissioners and the inspector has been here several times. can see in the back of the club
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and the walls built all the way to the ceiling. we used sound-proofing material between the sheet rock. we sheet rocked the entire ceiling and the glass wall on the mission side of the street. on one side of the club near the bathrooms, it was like a funnel that went up to the ceiling. we basically enclosed that, and basically an entire shell was inside of the building. we have been constantly testing. we have been in contact with neighbors. i mean almost daily, just to make sure because this is not a science, it's an art. and even though we have brought in west coast sound solutions three times for consulting. they would give us one idea and it wouldn't always quite work and then try it again. i think we -- there is no doubt that our communication not only with our neighbors but with
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everybody else in the community as well that has really improved. and we really put this effort in, and i am hoping if the commissioners have further questions. i was not there when the commissioners were there to inspect, but i am happy to answer any questions you have now. >> thank you. commissioners. comments/questions? hyde. >> can you define what you are asking for tonight? what is it you want? >> i would like our decimal level to be raised on a nightly basis, and also for our live permit to go to 12:30 during the week and 1:30 on the weekends. >> is there a certain decibel level you are requesting? >> i think 95 is not an issue.
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based on our personal tests. i think when the department of health ran their tests we were spiking at 95 inside the club. yet we were outside and well within the legal limit. so that's based on the copies of the reports i think everyone received. as far as the phone issue, my business partner, michael, has volunteered his cell phone number and an office number and a phone that blinks when it's ringing when there is a show on. i believe that our staff is pretty good, i think that the police department would say we don't have a problem there. they are pretty responsible. and again i am not denying the problems in the past. but i believe that we are addressing our neighbors.
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and we have been having a very good -- we had one issue with a neighbor a couple of weeks ago. the people behind us are not having an issue, it's the one on the side of us. the last nights we tested and called and connected with her, and i think that went really well. i am not going to say it's perfect. but i know for a fact we are very responsive. and i think for me as a business owner, i want to be sure that gets across the commission that we are responsible business owners. >> thank you. commissioner perez. >> hello, how are you sharing your numbers to the neighbors? >> all of our neighbors who have e-mailed us and michael is the point person. they have e-mail and text all of that. in that way. we also have it on our website too. >> right. part of the issue is that land line which is right at the front
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door. and it's only a one-room club, not like there are different rooms. the front door when the staff is there, it's louder. and then i gave the cell phone to the, not just the sound guy but the door man. and i requested that all three of us get texted at the same time. i felt that was the most direct way than the land line. >> all right, any other questions commission? commissioner joseph. >> i am glad that you provided pictures, that saves me from running my little memory stick with all the pictures i took. a couple of things, when i got to your place. the guy gave me a sheet with the
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work you prepared and you boxed the windows well. and i saw that the socket over the stage was not completed. it still needed more sheet rock, and the sheet-rock joints were not sealed. i did see that. and the bathroom looked great. and i understood what you meant being a funnel. but you didn't take care of your kitchen, and the kitchen is your new funnel. what happened is that the ceiling is open in the kitchen. and one thing that happens is that the sound through the wall or kitchen door goes into the kitchen. and probably hits the pipes that goes up to the water heater and resounds in that. you dropped the ceiling but you didn't sound proof the area above the dropped ceiling. what is happening -- i don't know if you thought of it, it goes up in that area and that
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goes out the back of your club. you probably have sound leakage there. my suggestion to you is that you seal off that ceiling and put a wrap-around to the pipe up to the water heater. it's really inexpensive, you buy it at home depot, it's a foam wrap. and same with the ceiling in the office above the kitchen. it's open, and you have this space acting as a sound tunnel that is no open, it could be going out to the back. and you said that you did double half-inch sheet rock, and we saw someone finish sheet rock and only single half inch. i don't know if that paper you left for us was correct or not. but i took pictures of it, it wasn't finished. it was only single sheet rock, not double. so the paper was incorrect. >> audrey, was the single sheet
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rock behind the stage? because we did behind the stage we did sheet rock and then a sound like that insulation material and then sheet rock behind that. >> it was but it was also in the corridor of what i think is a dressing room. and the sound goes in, sound goes back into that, hits that room. the ceiling is partially open and that's only singly sheet rocked you have a ton of leakage in that place you are not thinking about. sound doesn't stay in one place, it travels around. that's part of the problem, you are not seeing all of the places. i think you are doing a great job for what you have done. you have to seal up your ceilings better. you have a lot of empty spaces. i think if you sealed up the ceilings in the kitchen and the dressing room area. and finished the sheet rock, you
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would create a better space. what else -- >> audrey, one note about that. when we created that new ceiling, we built that ceiling in behind the stage. i don't know if you saw it before -- >> yeah. >> you could see the brick. the wall went all the way up and came back. and then we pulled like the sound fabric material out of the sound studio, and then we started layering it in the back. >> where are you talking about the sound fabric material. there is some on your windows but the thing behind the stage is. >> it's where the drop ceiling is. >> no, it's like someone's drapes from someone's living room. it's not sound curtain. i have touched it, it's grandma's drapes, it's not sound
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curtain. >> we understand that. >> what were you referring to? >> there is like a false ceiling back behind the stage. >> right. >> and above that we layered material. >> yeah, give me the pictures. >> i understand what you are talking about. >> what you have above your stage is called a facet. and what it should do, if it works right is direct the sound back down. so here is your soffet; right. that's it. and it's not finished underneath. the drapes behind the stage are not sound curtain. most of the work you did is good, you just have to finish it, that's all.
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>> is that a $5,000 order of new sound drapes from the clerk this week. the east oakland company. >> if you just put it behind the stage it might not cost that much. it seems like you have heavy drape on the windows. that's what it felt like to me. but the stuff behind the stage is definitely not sound curtain. that's it. >> all right, thank you, commissioner joseph. commissioner hyde you want to say something. >> yeah, what was the gentleman's man that helped us. >> barry. >> barry smith. i wanted to compliment barry he was kind and took time out of his day. i thought he did a good job, and i went down there because i hadn't seen what you had done. and i felt like i need to see something. because i didn't have the story presented to me. but i definitely believe you have made an effort.
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there is like she said, the dressing room. i noticed a giant hole there. and if you can abate any other sound, maybe that's why the lady next door is hearing it. and the metal door, if you can put something on the metal door and that's conducting and the hole in the ceiling. that's perhaps why the neighbor had the complaint. barry was awesome. >> i appreciate, we are lucky to have him. >> i want to concur that barry is great. and brick and mortar between the brick is porous, so sound permeates through that. and i know that a lot of people think if they pour concrete in, it's a sound deterrent. not necessarily. quite frankly, i don't know where you are leaking sound out the side. i looked. and other than behind the stage,
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i could not determine how it is you are leaking sound out of the side to affect that woman in that building. her building is old, i get it. the only thing i can think of, you are leaking it out of the roof. you can foam the roof i suppose with sound-proof foam. otherwise i don't know where you are leaking sound. >> on monday when i talked to chris, the person talking. and we went up there and basically that room was a box. it turned into a box. and then i realized basically that is a speaker box. when it's a solid box. that's when i explained about the material. we pulled all the sound, like carpeting and layered it all over the walls and ceiling and side. and she thought that worked and can see a difference. >> you are talking about above
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the drop today ceiling in the corridor behind the stage, yeah, he removed the ceiling panel and showed us that. >> one other thing, the inspector made a point about the door broken and not having a proper curtain. and that's addressed this week. >> and there was another thing in the report no signs displayed and to be quiet, is that the case? have you put signs up? >> we have one on the far left but could put one at the extract entrance. >> that would be helpful. any other comments? >> your neighborhood procedure, i don't see an e-mail or anything. did you relay this in writing on the procedures if there is a sound complaint this is what you guys are implementing? because i don't see a copy, i am trusting you that was sent out
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to everybody that has concerns here. >> it was sent out on a group e-mail to two of the main point people in the rear. so yes. >> okay, when i went there, i wouldn't stay long, they were on break. and again about the outside. i mean there is a lot of people smoking and things like that. the only thing i would mention if security can keep a pathway open for the neighbors. some people had to walk in the middle of the street. that's the only thing i heard. they are pretty quiet. i didn't go in because they were on break. and i had to go back to my work, my club, so i couldn't stay long. but what i see on the documentation i am okay with it. there is some stuff that was done recently and i think audrey pinpointed a few items. i know you have that
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pass-through window through the kitchen. probably the sound goes through and rattles around the hood and everything else and goes out. and something that audrey said you could do back there would help a lot. >> to that point, the thing that is directly behind that pass-through window is a walk in. and nothing is more insulated than a walk-in. i think it's going through the other door and the wall itself. >> i want to comment that we don't feel like we are done working on this. and we are going to keep working on it. and working with the neighbors. thank you. >> well, i do appreciate hearing that. i feel like over the course of the past few months we have seen you a few times. and i think to see that good faith effort is recognized here. so thank you for that. i think we have one more comment from commissioner perez. and i would like to take a motion afr
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