thank god i traffic for my work because some of the times there's been music i've been away. and people have been effected negatively by that. i happen to be away you during the gay pride. i have spoken to the hotel california which is adjacent to their patio and they have to install the expense of the 620 street venue. there's another person who just moved and their lives have been effected. i don't want to say his name's. i had a run-in with myself on the street and was intimidated

by him and talking about the noise complaints and this was nothing that was done. so i don't believe - i'm here to oppose is extension of their music venue permit. this was with my home i would invite you to cover to the apartment of the girl on the sixth floor who has brain cancer and spend a weekend in her or my place interest thank you >> thank you. any other public comment that is please come to the podium. >> i'm the director for the

alliance of district 6. my organization would like to ask for a continuous because the applicant has not tenant any community meetings. i think you've heard that, you know, we have many community meetings in the area that the applicant could attend and i'm hearing we're going to come up with some mitigating realty of how to give them a permit and they haven't come to the community. normally we'd ask a project of this size or this kind what is our security plan that is how are you going to mitigate our noise and i'm hearing from this one neighbor how do you deal with your neighborhood complaints and mitigate them? the more i listen the more i become seeing that, you know,

this is not the right way to give a permit out if the applicant has not done any outreach. that was one of the policies that i thought this commission had to encourage outreach and particularly incidence, you know, they've been operating for six months yes, but it's important they need to do the outreach and let people know what they're about to do. so, anyway i did appreciate the help if they had get a permit today they don't get anything past 10:00 p.m. so far as noise on say outside closer to 9 or 8 o'clock. the neighbors need to get their sleep. thank you, thank you >> ha you. any

public comment. seeing none, public comment is closed. oh, actually, i'm so new to this any police comments >> can i just make a note this is for a limited live this is not a full on permit in case anyone is confused and a they've already been gotten the permit. >> this is changing the conditions on the permit. >> and they've done the community outreach; is that correct. >> hi i was asked to speak about the cab reports and all of you have reports. looking at this there were 22 cabs that came to the address and very few of them were tied

to the jones restaurants and club. looking through here and maybe the applicant will - i went over the different can be reports some of them were times they were saying they didn't have finest during that time so if they want to explain that. that area whether it's very busy on gary and jones and sometimes, i noticed being out there there's a lot of noise from the different clubs. so looking at the different cabs. one was on may 11th at the 6:00 p.m. jones restaurants was setting up for for live entertainment they wanted to check on a permit and saw they did have a permit. however, that's somebody looking

to see do they have a permit. that's different than a noise complaint on may 14th at the 929 loud music from jones restaurants please ask for volume to be turned down and they wanted it turned down. i don't know if it's the incident they said they weren't operating that night. i believe they have the dates. there was another noise complaint on july 12th at the 409. looks like an event is being set up outside and their you testing the sound system needed to quiet them down. the response from the officer appears normal at this time and the owner has a permit until

11:00 p.m. tonight and then talked about a battery on june 30th at the 943. this was regarded somebody who was kicked out for urinating in the back area. we'd rather have them call than not. this is not something that will be counted against somebody. and then let's see july 14th at 1 o'clock in the morning a male was assault a security guard and they hung on the him and they didn't want anything done. i will say that there has been especially 67 months ago we got a lot of e-mails and concern. i got less and i've forwarded those to the entertainment

commission. the outreach so far as with the community if i have a we are talking about you can post unanimously if they have an issue or phone number. we want the business to be able to get along with the residents that's why we're all here. we have a concern so far as the noise is it going to distributor the neighbors and if we can put a limit on it. if it's not that's fantastic that's what we're looking at for. so with the music being outside, you know, big difference between 1 o'clock in the afternoon or on a sunday night. the area is pretty loud so even without entertainment being there it's a loud block.

if we can put safeguards in there to make sure that the residents are not disturbed. we had a couple of those incidents neighbors not able to sleep we're going to do something about it. thank you. and any comments or questions for the police officer >> any public comment. >> i'd like to make a motion it's complicated but i'd like to move to approve a change in the conditions of their live permit to 620 jones to 10:00 p.m.

inside tuesday through saturday. outdoor for sunday brunch 11 to 4 at ambien which ron is going to have to determine is there sound limit outside for the sunday brunch and outside for friday and saturday at 60 d b. >> which hours on friday and a saturday? >> until 9. >> did everyone get that? >> one clarification to the motion relative to the d vs and the sound test and i request if that the staff - direct staff to

deny that. >> let me restate that for the sunday brunch outside from 114 at ambient or 68 d b. >> wherever is higher or lower. >> lower. >> what about the street. >> well. >> let me finish and friday and a saturday outside until 9:00 p.m. at 8 points below ambient highway is that. >> what does of the street. >> berry? jones. >> commissioner. >> yes. >> do we need a second before going on. >> we need a second in order to

discuss the motion. >> i'll second it. >> i'm uncomfortable at this point to give them anything i'd like to continue it to let inspector got out and do some sound checks specifically at the lorain's apartment. >> ii understand the interpretation, however, i think we should allow them to try it on sundays from 11 to 4 and see how it works before we extend it to the friday and saturdays. because i think like the latter we get in the evening and i know friday and saturday nights are popular nights but i'd like to see i mean, there's 710 so many people who live around there. there's also noise complaints. i don't think this is going to

be that big have a problem but try it 11 to 4 friday and a saturday outside and then - 10:00 p.m. inside tuesday through saturday and outside 11 to 4 and i'd like to very invite friday and saturday based on how sundays go >> they serve food outside they are not going to be using the patio outside in the rain and to have it 8 points below ambient is really having background music for dining and we've loud venues 8 point above ambient i'm doing 8 points below ambient so

let's say it's 68 it's music to dining. they're only trying to do this for corporate events i don't understand the trepidation if it ends at 9 o'clock and none of this goes in effect until after the sound levels >> i would say that came from all the complaints. there were a lot of complaints about noise just on the patio. i agree it's not a lot of the noise in my estimation is street noise but i think that many of it enough to get complaints that was brought to us, you know, a lot of complaints at 620 jones. i think we need to proceed with

caution. i'm not saying eventually it won't work but it will gain trust for the venue and when we decide to go on friday and a saturday we'll have a lot less push back. that will be the best way to proceed >> how many time would have to precede before they come back for friday and saturday. >> can we say number of events? >> no i don't think their outside - i mean this is the end of august it's going to rain in 60 or 75 days. >> last year, it didn't rain a whole lot. >> i'm not the weather man. >> i would say months or 2 months. >> i'll accept 3 months.

>> and if there are no complaints or if there is not - i think staff can make this decision they don't have to come in here and a talk with us staff can make that choice. >> let me repeat our amendments. you're okay with changing the the conditions on the inside >> correct. >> you want to do sunday brunch from 7 to 4 at ambient. >> correct and okay. they he will come back and petition staff in '90 days if there are no major complaints to add on friday and a saturday. >> outside until 9 and the until ambiance. i accept your amendment i want to know if the commissioner has

anything to add >> no, i like that. >> you do? and i like that and a do we have a second. >> we've had a second but i need clarification. okay. you want me to repeat motion? >> the only confusion i have is the indoor until 10 every tuesday. >> every night are of the week. >> tuesday tuesday through saturday. so let me repeat this to make it clear. remove the conditions on say l l that indoors tuesday through saturday until you 10:00 p.m. arrest outdoor for brunch at ambient and that will only go in effect once the sound

electrician sets the ambient and they can come back 90 dazed to have friday and saturday added at 9:00 p.m. at ambient depending upon on complaints >> at the discretion of staff and a that's correct? >> correct. >> is the second okay with that. >> no, we refused the second and i'm the chair by the way, (laughter) >> i thought you were the second didn't you say? >> so is that clear. >> wait, wait. are we doing the minus 8? no, it's at the ambient and $0.31 it's at the discretion whether it's jones and a do all the commissioners understand the motion?

>> yes. >> all right. any more comments >> i'm going to make a comment there's a sign at the loading area if you could put a sign down to keep the sound at the minimum saying it's for the neighbors so it's not you complaining but other people. >> let's take this to a vote. >> (calling names) >> thank you good luck to that. >> let's continue we have a lot of business. this is the application of permits this is imply permits. the first one is doing business

at the 60 sixth street >> do have i have to recuse myself on this one. >> see you in a bit. >> this is for lubrication launch they were here over a another thing to get their permit by a questioning request was continued to allow for more discussion. they want to depreciate their extend hours and they received letters from supporting businesses. i believe they have an additional letter of support and staff has received no word of opposition >> great. can you come up and speak. >> chairman i'm mark i'm with my client ronnie.

you should have in front of you a letter which really duces an issue that, you know, we can only touch on here but we should look at it. there's not that many large spaces with after hours permits in san francisco and over the last year we've lost 5 of them. as you know i he was in the business in the 80s and the business has changed a lot because it makes no financial sense to be open after hours. security is too expensive and if you're not selling drinks our losing money. there are two instances the end up crowd will be there from a hundred years from now. other than that it's gay male

events that tend to go to 4, 5, 6 no longer and this letter lazy it out from gus who's been in business a long time. he's done events everywhere and he knows the business he's on my case do you know where the large spaces are. he likes to move around. i think we should take into consideration. this particular venue has after hours and pete has had this venue and had lived music in the basement and angel crews had this with a after-hour license. the zoning was changed to r f d

which means if you lose this zoning 3 it will never come back. so it's an asset to this particular place. at this moment right now 6 inc. has a valid extended hour and has a liquor license. it has been close for a while but those permits are intact. i'd like to touch on a few things that p. we touched on this before and that's community outreach. commissioner perez said we should contact folks but we said we want to help you this is a 1 hundred and 50 unit housing for

a lot of elderly and a lot of filipino over there and we want to be good neighbors. the neighborhood is changing it's somewhat dangerous. at the request of permit officer chan we the special extend hours security plan hopefully it's in our binder touching on a few things we're commented to not that i'm aware of the station of any after hours party and i would guess to be honest with you weren't going to have more than 4 or 5 in the years because of the financial issues. it talks about how are we going to keep it safe we're going to have a security person walking on sixth street sort of like

what monarchy has now and the second job is to keep an eye on cars and things and market street which is approximately a half block away. we're going to have our more mature staff out there and for non-gay events there are be 50 guests and it's in excess of what the code requires. we're going to have somebody out there with a sound meter or near the front door to monitor it because this is more of an issue at the 2:00 a.m. prior to 2:00 a.m. with the 48 license we're going to collect the cans and close the bar down for 10 minutes.

no one after 21 will be allowed after hours when no alcohol is being served and we're going to more diligently going to monitor our cell phones. and i think that's about it. i would request that the commission look at that. obviously 1060.5 and 1070 give a hard reason to deny that. we should be looking at the issue of rapidly getting rid of them - and i believe we should give an additional extension. my client is here if you have any questions >> thank you. questions from commissioners. commissioner perez >> how are you sharing our cell

phone now u number with the community? >> ii think we'll put it on the website. i think we'll send outliers and hand it out with business cards or something. i think communication is a good thing to have between the community especially down there because it's sort of as i noted in my security plan there are a lot of paroles. people are trying to have a situation likes o-m-g that has had a tough time getting a foothold. my client bring the situation they have a deep enough pocket to wait this out and won't have to take any risk and are we talking about it out to people who might cause a problem

>> when you guys were here last for the po e permit i know you guys are talking about using a part of the club is that open up for the basement? >> this has a large basement. it has is original side if you're looking at straight at the hotel the original side is on the jessie corner and we have the darkroom. we went to the planning department to expand that 5 years ago. it was a pretty beautiful space. right now we have a crew in there that's putting that as a high-end allegiance. we have the drapes and it's going to be a nice lounge. we're going to try to attract and market to the supporters of

the world and see what happens. they're in discussions right now with the 50133 to utilizes part of the basement just for the music for the community. at this point it doesn't make n any financial expense and the reinstated is fairly inexpensive so they're to open it up for a quarter of the space >> i know it pretty much what you would get from the community leadership alliance by since you went to the b i a n e o n a in time i was wondering is there something that you derived from them that you didn't get from the neighborhood groups? and a

yes, a different we went to urban solution trying to build the community through business. i think that down there the people who are striving to make that a real community and better are 80 percent nonprofits that have hotels or store for the purposes down there. you know, another 20 percent businesses and around are there are the alliance groups that has constant contact with those people. i think it's important for the businesses as they communicate and do go to those people they have concern needs and for my clients to give out 10 turkeys on thanksgiving is like a no brainier and it's nothing but to those people it's a a