heard from people today that law enforcement has significant discretion and that leads to problematic consequences and people held in detention centers for eight months. law enforcement has the discretion who they arrest and everyone else has discretion. it will never be enough. they always want more authority than they have and we need to set the line here and say that everybody is going to be treat d the same regardless of documentation status. i think the values of san francisco are that we don't welcome people here because of something they did in the past and having carve outs is absolutely the wrong decision and i want to thank you for your defense of the ordinance as it is without carve outs and we know it's not an issue of

public safety. it's an issue much public rights for everyone in san francisco. thank you. >> next speaker please. >> good afternoon. i am reverent carrien [inaudible] and joined by others in the community of faith. we are standing here as part of san francisco's religious community who have been working in collaboration with hundreds of faith leaders and congregations from diverse communities around the state and including the catholic conference of bishops and others as well. we are here as religious leerkds because we feel this ordinance is an opportunity for san francisco to continue to be a

city like none other, one that embraces the refugee and welcomes them as son and daughter and shows we will not comply with federal policy that rip families apart and distrust of our law enforcement and divide rather than unite the community. >> i also want to add to that the time is of essence especially in this season of heightened and accelerated gentd tricasion happening in the city and marginalizing the people that we're talking about. i would say that we support this ordinance in the tradition of martin luther king that we just commemorated last week. as a moral indictment, a moral corrective and indictment of a federal system largely born of fear and bigotry and also the pursuit of profits that systematic and adversely affect

millions of immigrants and their families since 2003 when the homeland security launched operation end game and the massive and ambitious immigration crack down that our country ever embarked on. lastly as a faith community we have a tradition of visiting and extending dignity to the prisoners, and to offer and promote sanctuary to make sure that they have fair trial and opportunity for rehabilitation, of restoration and redemption into society and therefore we support due process for all. >> thank you very much. next speaker please. >> my name is [inaudible] and i am the program director of african [inaudible] network. i want to

say words and in. [speaking spanish] spanish and i think this is what it's all about so not about immigrants but [inaudible] with our elected authorities and we have been part of different programs. we know about the san francisco access network and i think san francisco is the place to be, and if you look back at the reasons why some of us are here in this city is fear. we have been running away from fear and san francisco is the safe heaven we found so we would like to see this place and safety preserved and that's why in the name of the african immigrants and also the african caribbean immigrants that we are serving at the network i would like to express our support for this ordinance, just like other

ordinances that preceding and like the access ordinance and thank you for the work that you're doing. i think we also need to look at all these processes as a empower mentd of the communities because we. to see a police that is working for us and with us and again we want to be work with the police and we believe in this work of empowerment and again thank you in the name of the communities here. thank you. >> thank you very much. next speaker please. >> hello. thank you supervisors. my name is miriam [inaudible]. i'm a member and staff at the arab organizing resource center and we provide immigration services, largely for the arab community. although our work load convinces us otherwise we serve only a small percentage of the immigration communities immigrated into the city. with that said the number of cases we do receive that are complicated

with s-com shows the larger systemic problem at hand and cases are interrupted with traffic violations and sentences are extended and deportation could be to a country the united states doesn't recognize or maybe doing drone strikes. this is product of work done on the grass roots and legal and representative levels and it's our responsibilities as advocates of direct democracy in san francisco to adopt legislation that has teeth and doesn't compromise and tangible change that people can feel so i support it and so does the arab organizing resource center. thank you. >> thank you very much. next speaker please. >> good afternoon. i want to thank you for your initiative on this. it's a very difficult

issue. it's not easy and thank you for tackling it. i am rick cojo and as the largest organization serving lgbt and transgender family with children and we recognize the stigma of open communication and safety. secured communities introduces a level of uncertainty in the community and creates distrust and personal safety are weighed against priorities. what better way to make sure they're emboldened to the community and unable to trust law enforcement. in the united states there are thousands of immigrants that identify as gay, lesbian or transgender and always with a stigma studies have shown that

members of the lgbtq community are not reporting and with the additional stigmaation of documentation status whether real or perceived and make members of the community less likely to support crimes. the name of security only portends to give safety and not safety at all and we stand with immigrant communities and all communities and with you san francisco and board of supervisors and support for the due process ordinance to maintain safer communities, foster trust in local law enforcement and respect our rights for fair and justice legal treatment. thank you. >> thank you. next speaker please. >> good afternoon supervisors. i am jasmine [inaudible] and representing educators for fairness and we empower young

undocumented people like myself, education and professional development and also a pathway to citizenship. i will here to express the strong support for the due process ordinance here in san francisco because we believe we should be a leader on the national level on this progressive issue. by enacting this due process ordinance san francisco will join santa clara, cook county and washington dc and other cities that understand the complexities of the immigration system and value our community. and i agree with the police chief when he says trust is fragile and i think this ordinance which should be the first step in trying to make a strong commitment to the immigrant community by passing this ordinance will sends a strong message by saying san francisco is not interested in collaborating with ice and we value our immigrant diverse community and willing to work with the communities for public

safety. on a personal note growing up in an undocumented household i have to say that the fear in the community is real and even though i went to college and now a working professional the hesitation of contacting law enforcement is very rooted in our communities and that i hope and really applaud your efforts and i hope that you all support the due process ordinance. thank you. >> thank you very much. next speaker please. >> hi i am chris [inaudible] and an attorney at the legal center and previously a deportation attorney and also an immigrant myself. ice is a heavily funded and untruth worthy partner. in 2012 i spent $18 billion -- rather the mchz spent that much on enforcement and more than all other agencies combined. angela spoke about the problems and issuance of detailers and

frequent due process violations. there is very little transparency and one report showed that thousands of citizens were affected by this program. we have several stories of deceptive practices when people are transferred to ice and file deportation orders not realizing that have a right to bail and see a judge and immigrants are set to fail as soon as they are transferred over. additionally once people are in these proceedings they're not represented. they're isolated and confined to remote jails. as an attorney they don't get one and many go you know represented and transferred to ice jails and different stales and away from their family members. you also don't have the same right to bail or

bond proceedings by law or discretion. many are confined to will jails in these proceedings and again highlighting the importance of cooperating with the community and not with ice. thank you. >> thank you very much. next speaker. >> thank you supervisors. i am eric [inaudible] and out for immigration represents binational lgbt couples so 36,000 lgbt couples in the united states where there is an immigration issue going on but there are many thousands of us, not just lgbt people but straight families who are mix the status families and we have undocumented family members where there's a huge fear of the police. myself, my partner of nine years undocumented. many days where i am fearful he's not going to show up because of a simple run in with the police.

for many of us now we are moving forward also with the possibility of immigration status because of the striking down of doma but we know that there are many thousands of other lgbt immigrants who don't have this opportunity. two years ago with immigration and other lgbt organizations on national coming out day signed a statement against this policy because we knew just how devastating it would be for the lgbt community. mainly because we know that the lgbt community and klef don't have a good relationship. it's worse with immigration and those targeted and transgender women and picked up by the police who are

vulnerable. young lgbt immigrants who maybe hanging out in the castro for example and harassed by the police, et cetera, et cetera, so we know there are thousands of lgbt people impacted by this and we support it wholeheartedly. thank you. >> thank you. next speaker. >> [speaking spanish]

>> my name is maria hernandez and i am here to support the ordinance for due process for all. i believe it is time to defend our communities which

are being devastated from ice. ice separated our families and causing harm to our children. we want to stop the separation of families which are unnecessary and painful. we ask that the san francisco police stop working with ice and this violates the due process and finally we all have the responsibility of taking care of our children and making sure they have a safe and healthy life and we ask that you support the ordinance for due process for all if you really want to protect our children. thank you. >> thank you very much. >> [speaking spanish] >> good afternoon. my name is

loris [inaudible] and i am a member of [inaudible] and i am here to ask you to stop police ice collaboration because i was attacked. [speaking spanish] >> so i was attacked on 20th and mission with my nine year old son. my son was thrown against the wall and the person grabbed him by the neck. i was trying to defend myself. i didn't know what to do. i didn't know how to defend him. [speaking spanish]

>> so i finally found some courage and took my son away from him and we ran away and he kept following us for over a block, and it was really terrifying that people didn't upon to help us out that we were scared much calling the police and we know there is police ice collaboration. [speaking spanish] . >> so then i was -- my thought

was what is most important now? should i just run and fend for myself because i know if i call the police i would end up in a deportation proceeding and my kid would be left with my ex-partner and i suffered domestic violence from and at the moment i decided to do that because i knew there was ice police collaboration and i could have been deported. [speaking spanish] . >> so i really ask you to restore that trust between the community and police. my son's life was changed by this. it's

been a year since that happened and he's still traumatized and he asked why why didn't you call the police when that happened?" and i knew i would be deported and that's what i had to tell him. [speaking spanish] >> please support this ordinance. thank you very much. >> thank you. next speaker please. there is one card as well. okay. >> [speaking spanish] >> my name is gloria [inaudible] and a member of power. we have worked for a long time to be part of this fight, and i think all of the organizations and my

organization persons here support the ordinance as it is -- due process ordinance as it stands right now. [speaking spanish] >> so all the experiences that we have heard today from different testimonies we want to make sure that they're really listened to, and the people that have been voted to support this community are really becoming

sensitive to these stories. the people that you have heard from have suffered a lot and they're here working and it's not fair what is happening to them. [speaking spanish] >> so letting s-com be in the community and leaving the door open for evil. that's exactly what it is. we already are suffering a lot from low wage works from many different people that are taking advantage of our community, and this is only making it worse for our

community. it's making it more terrible for the community. [speaking spanish] >> so imagine how horrible it is for our children to live in constant fear of separation, and also for the youth that are not undocumented and the youth are not immigrants to really witness how there is a separate system where people's rights are not being respected, being violated. what example does that set for children that are not

immigrants but seeing these violations? [speaking spanish] >> so this is about justice to support what is morally right, what is morally correct for our community. this is about justice. >> thank you. next speaker please. >> hi good afternoon. i am karen [inaudible] sunland and i hear we're out of time so i will be brief. we advocated against these detainers because of the due process issues and as angela said we have worked in multiple communities and also regarding what the police chief said i believe there is a public safety concern and it's when 70% say

they won't call the police when they're a witness to a crime. that's a public safety concern and as multiple person testified and that's the real public safety and thank you for the support of this ordinance. >> thank you. next speaker please. >> hello i am matt kelger and i want to join in the chorus of support for the due process ordinance in its entirety without any carve outs. sthroos not really i can add that you haven't already heard. the one caveat with the community has and initially how it operates is not letting the vulnerability but relying on rational profiling and code for racism and enhancement tool of the police and when other agencies and ice want to leverage local municipalities and cities and asking the police department to

make a decision of representing san franciscans and a federal program that doesn't share our values and from a constitutional standpoint and due process standpoint we oppose on those grounds as well as everything you have heard already and thank you for considering this. >> hello i am darren [inaudible] and attorney for the alliance of jftd and committed to due process for all and i want to thank the board of supervisors and the eight for bringing this forward and specifically thank supervisor breed for her attendance at today's hearing and standing strong against carve outs in the legislation. i want to reiterate the need to provide people with due process and not treat them differently based on the immigration status. ice separates families without

due process and teaches people they can't trust law enforcement and the idea which has been espoused for some people calling for carve outs that some should be handled by an immigration system that doesn't guarantee them to the right of an attorney and due process protections and ultimately might deport them and archaic and false belief that they're more dangerous to our community than other members. the reality is nearly all san franciscans are descendants of immigrants and we have that heritage and time we provide due process for all. >> thank you. next speaker please. >> hi. i am here and i would like to introduce two of our members why they support the ordinance without any carve

outs. >> hi to the board of supervisors and i am sure would have been them is looking at me right now because i have been trying to get a hold of you for a while and stop ice. there is no reason for it and forced deportations and no reason for it and that's for the board of supervisors and i want say hi to brie. >> hello i am larry edmond and i learned how not to be violent living in the city in the sro's and what i would like to show you is right here. i was a quitted for charges and in the hotels and i learned about ice and the communities and being in jail and lockup. i got out 20 days and those were getting out

october, november and months later and i learned about a system that i didn't need to be there but i definitely know that some years ago a man says segregation now segregation today and segregation forever and we just celebrated of that civil rights movement. i say to you today that you need to stand for up for due process and for this today and tomorrow and forever and just like the new bridge and standing up for justice. this is nothing more than racial profiling. you hear that african-americans go through this a lot. it is the same twin brother as racism and homophobia and we ask you to stand for justice today, tomorrow and forever and we hope from florida to goanch --

georgia to dc to here and we all are free in this country. thank you. >> thank you. are there any other members of the public that would like to comment? seeing none we will close public comment. >> thank you supervisor avalos and i believe supervisor breed was one of the co-sponsors here to speak on this item. >> thank you so much supervisor campos. i know when i started i worked with advocates working on this issue for some time. i am really glad to see it come to the forefront and thank the supervisor for this and all of the advocates and supporters of this. i think this is a small way san francisco can take the lead and combat the issues that face a number of immigrants in the country .