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we do receive that are complicated with s-com shows the larger systemic problem at hand and cases are interrupted with traffic violations and sentences are extended and deportation could be to a country the united states doesn't recognize or maybe doing drone strikes. this is product of work done on the grass roots and legal and representative levels and it's our responsibilities as advocates of direct democracy in san francisco to adopt legislation that has teeth and doesn't compromise and tangible change that people can feel so i support it and so does the arab organizing resource center. thank you. >> thank you very much. next speaker please. >> good afternoon. i want to thank you for your initiative
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on this. it's a very difficult issue. it's not easy and thank you for tackling it. i am rick cojo and as the largest organization serving lgbt and transgender family with children and we recognize the stigma of open communication and safety. secured communities introduces a level of uncertainty in the community and creates distrust and personal safety are weighed against priorities. what better way to make sure they're emboldened to the community and unable to trust law enforcement. in the united states there are thousands of immigrants that identify as gay, lesbian or transgender and always with a
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stigma studies have shown that members of the lgbtq community are not reporting and with the additional stigmaation of documentation status whether real or perceived and make members of the community less likely to support crimes. the name of security only portends to give safety and not safety at all and we stand with immigrant communities and all communities and with you san francisco and board of supervisors and support for the due process ordinance to maintain safer communities, foster trust in local law enforcement and respect our rights for fair and justice legal treatment. thank you. >> thank you. next speaker please. >> good afternoon supervisors. i am jasmine [inaudible] and representing educators for
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fairness and we empower young undocumented people like myself, education and professional development and also a pathway to citizenship. i will here to express the strong support for the due process ordinance here in san francisco because we believe we should be a leader on the national level on this progressive issue. by enacting this due process ordinance san francisco will join santa clara, cook county and washington dc and other cities that understand the complexities of the immigration system and value our community. and i agree with the police chief when he says trust is fragile and i think this ordinance which should be the first step in trying to make a strong commitment to the immigrant community by passing this ordinance will sends a strong message by saying san francisco is not interested in collaborating with ice and we value our immigrant diverse community and willing to work
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with the communities for public safety. on a personal note growing up in an undocumented household i have to say that the fear in the community is real and even though i went to college and now a working professional the hesitation of contacting law enforcement is very rooted in our communities and that i hope and really applaud your efforts and i hope that you all support the due process ordinance. thank you. >> thank you very much. next speaker please. >> hi i am chris [inaudible] and an attorney at the legal center and previously a deportation attorney and also an immigrant myself. ice is a heavily funded and untruth worthy partner. in 2012 i spent $18 billion -- rather the mchz spent that much on enforcement and more than all other agencies combined. angela spoke about the problems and
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issuance of detailers and frequent due process violations. there is very little transparency and one report showed that thousands of citizens were affected by this program. we have several stories of deceptive practices when people are transferred to ice and file deportation orders not realizing that have a right to bail and see a judge and immigrants are set to fail as soon as they are transferred over. additionally once people are in these proceedings they're not represented. they're isolated and confined to remote jails. as an attorney they don't get one and many go you know represented and transferred to ice jails and different stales and away from their family members. you also don't
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have the same right to bail or bond proceedings by law or discretion. many are confined to will jails in these proceedings and again highlighting the importance of cooperating with the community and not with ice. thank you. >> thank you very much. next speaker. >> thank you supervisors. i am eric [inaudible] and out for immigration represents binational lgbt couples so 36,000 lgbt couples in the united states where there is an immigration issue going on but there are many thousands of us, not just lgbt people but straight families who are mix the status families and we have undocumented family members where there's a huge fear of the police. myself, my partner of nine years undocumented. many days where i am fearful he's not going to show up because of a simple run in with the police.
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for many of us now we are moving forward also with the possibility of immigration status because of the striking down of doma but we know that there are many thousands of other lgbt immigrants who don't have this opportunity. two years ago with immigration and other lgbt organizations on national coming out day signed a statement against this policy because we knew just how devastating it would be for the lgbt community. mainly because we know that the lgbt community and klef don't have a good relationship. it's worse with immigration and those targeted and transgender women and picked up by the police who are
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defend our communities which are being devastated from ice. ice separated our families and causing harm to our children. we want to stop the separation of families which are unnecessary and painful. we ask that the san francisco police stop working with ice and this violates the due process and finally we all have the responsibility of taking care of our children and making sure they have a safe and healthy life and we ask that you support the ordinance for due process for all if you really want to protect our children. thank you. >> thank you very much. >> [speaking spanish] >> good afternoon. my name is
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loris [inaudible] and i am a member of [inaudible] and i am here to ask you to stop police ice collaboration because i was attacked. [speaking spanish] >> so i was attacked on 20th and mission with my nine year old son. my son was thrown against the wall and the person grabbed him by the neck. i was trying to defend myself. i didn't know what to do. i didn't know how to defend him. [speaking spanish]
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>> so i finally found some courage and took my son away from him and we ran away and he kept following us for over a block, and it was really terrifying that people didn't upon to help us out that we were scared much calling the police and we know there is police ice collaboration. [speaking spanish]
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. >> so then i was -- my thought was what is most important now? should i just run and fend for myself because i know if i call the police i would end up in a deportation proceeding and my kid would be left with my ex-partner and i suffered domestic violence from and at the moment i decided to do that because i knew there was ice police collaboration and i could have been deported. [speaking spanish] . >> so i really ask you to restore that trust between the community and police. my son's
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life was changed by this. it's been a year since that happened and he's still traumatized and he asked why why didn't you call the police when that happened?" and i knew i would be deported and that's what i had to tell him. [speaking spanish] >> please support this ordinance. thank you very much. >> thank you. next speaker please. there is one card as well. okay. >> [speaking spanish] >> my name is gloria [inaudible] and a member of power. we have worked for a long time to be part of this fight, and i think
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all of the organizations and my organization persons here support the ordinance as it is -- due process ordinance as it stands right now. [speaking spanish] >> so all the experiences that we have heard today from different testimonies we want to make sure that they're really listened to, and the people that have been voted to support this
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community are really becoming sensitive to these stories. the people that you have heard from have suffered a lot and they're here working and it's not fair what is happening to them. [speaking spanish] >> so letting s-com be in the community and leaving the door open for evil. that's exactly what it is. we already are suffering a lot from low wage works from many different people that are taking advantage of our community, and this is only
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making it worse for our community. it's making it more terrible for the community. [speaking spanish] >> so imagine how horrible it is for our children to live in constant fear of separation, and also for the youth that are not undocumented and the youth are not immigrants to really witness how there is a separate system where people's rights are not being respected, being violated. what example does that set for
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children that are not immigrants but seeing these violations? [speaking spanish] >> so this is about justice to support what is morally right, what is morally correct for our community. this is about justice. >> thank you. next speaker please. >> hi good afternoon. i am karen [inaudible] sunland and i hear we're out of time so i will be brief. we advocated against these detainers because of the due process issues and as angela said we have worked in multiple communities and also regarding what the police chief said i believe there is a public safety concern and it's when 70% say
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they won't call the police when they're a witness to a crime. that's a public safety concern and as multiple person testified and that's the real public safety and thank you for the support of this ordinance. >> thank you. next speaker please. >> hello i am matt kelger and i want to join in the chorus of support for the due process ordinance in its entirety without any carve outs. sthroos not really i can add that you haven't already heard. the one caveat with the community has and initially how it operates is not letting the vulnerability but relying on rational profiling and code for racism and enhancement tool of the police and when other agencies and ice want to leverage local
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municipalities and cities and asking the police department to make a decision of representing san franciscans and a federal program that doesn't share our values and from a constitutional standpoint and due process standpoint we oppose on those grounds as well as everything you have heard already and thank you for considering this. >> hello i am darren [inaudible] and attorney for the alliance of jftd and committed to due process for all and i want to thank the board of supervisors and the eight for bringing this forward and specifically thank supervisor breed for her attendance at today's hearing and standing strong against carve outs in the legislation. i want to reiterate the need to provide people with due process and not treat them differently based on the immigration
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status. ice separates families without due process and teaches people they can't trust law enforcement and the idea which has been espoused for some people calling for carve outs that some should be handled by an immigration system that doesn't guarantee them to the right of an attorney and due process protections and ultimately might deport them and archaic and false belief that they're more dangerous to our community than other members. the reality is nearly all san franciscans are descendants of immigrants and we have that heritage and time we provide due process for all. >> thank you. next speaker please. >> hi. i am here and i would like to introduce two of our members why they support the
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ordinance without any carve outs. >> hi to the board of supervisors and i am sure would have been them is looking at me right now because i have been trying to get a hold of you for a while and stop ice. there is no reason for it and forced deportations and no reason for it and that's for the board of supervisors and i want say hi to brie. >> hello i am larry edmond and i learned how not to be violent living in the city in the sro's and what i would like to show you is right here. i was a quitted for charges and in the hotels and i learned about ice and the communities and being in jail and lockup. i got out 20 days
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and those were getting out october, november and months later and i learned about a system that i didn't need to be there but i definitely know that some years ago a man says segregation now segregation today and segregation forever and we just celebrated of that civil rights movement. i say to you today that you need to stand for up for due process and for this today and tomorrow and forever and just like the new bridge and standing up for justice. this is nothing more than racial profiling. you hear that african-americans go through this a lot. it is the same twin brother as racism and homophobia and we ask you to stand for justice today, tomorrow and forever and we hope from florida to goanch --
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georgia to dc to here and we all are free in this country. thank you. >> thank you. are there any other members of the public that would like to comment? seeing none we will close public comment. >> thank you supervisor avalos and i believe supervisor breed was one of the co-sponsors here to speak on this item. >> thank you so much supervisor campos. i know when i started i worked with advocates working on this issue for some time. i am really glad to see it come to the forefront and thank the supervisor for this and all of the advocates and supporters of this. i think this is a small way san francisco can take the lead and combat the issues that face a number of immigrants in the country . i think essential
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that no matter where they come from or the money or the color of the skin feel safe in interacting with the police. we can't create a second class citizen subject to different standards simply because of citizenship and this legislation makes it sure people are treated equally and i know it still will be a challenge to call law enforcement and situations that i am familiar with around domestic violence and other issues and i do think that it is important that we not only move forward but we also take an opportunity to try and reach out to communities to communicate what this means and how this can change their lives and how this can change how they interact with law enforcement in our city so they feel they too have the ability to call law enforcement when someone is violating them
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in anyway. i appreciate the leadership and i look forward to moving forward and i wanted to stop in and offer my support. thank you. >> thank you supervisor breed. supervisor avalos do want to add anything? >> thank you for coming in supervisor breed and being a co-sponsor. it's going to take all eight holding on and remain inparticular and maintain due process for everyone. we want to make sure everyone will have the same fair judicial treatment and we can have a separation between the local criminal justice system and federal immigration enforcement system and that's what this legislation is truly funded on. i want to thank everyone out here today. i want to thank especially the people that provided testimony of their own personal experiences dealing with law
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enforcement and the threat of s-com threat over our heads. it is significant. it makes it very significant the courage that you leave your house everyday knowing that the system is in place and i want to say thank you for your leadership here today and in general. i also want to thank the faith groups that spoke today and labor groups, our local 87 and seiu and the lgbt community and many community groups who were here today as well. this legislation is a significant step in how we can make sure it's a great example of san francisco for the rest of the country and exercising our local control over this program. public safety is funded on public trust and when we know people are able to pick up the phone and call the police and not a threat of deportation for
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anyone in the community. we shouldn't think of deportation as a public safety tool and that was clear and no carve outs to affect that statement and i will ask for my colleagues comments as well but i hope we can move this forward with a unanimous vote. >> thank you supervisor. supervisor mar did you want to add anything? >> i wanted to thank my colleagues for immigration rights and empowering our communities and also the strong grass-roots coalition and not immigrant organizations and domestic violence rights and lgbt community for being here. you have built a tremendous coalition that ensures we have a super majority and hopefully a unanimous decision at the board of supervisors without any
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carve outs. i also want to say i hope san francisco gets the status of the strongest sairnt area city and i know we look to santa clara and chicago but we should be in the leadership of that. as my role as a decision maker i think the police chief was clear on his statements but the human stories by fatima, the woman who was arrested from the night club and dragged away from her children and sonia who was assaulted and others who gave me human stories give me a human side of the issue, and not just the legal side and i am grateful for their courage and the community organizations of bringing the victims of draconian measures like s-com out and have solidity with
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immigrant communities. i want to add with labor, and lgbt and constitutional rights and other organizations standing up for this as the civil right issue of today hopefully this is a key message in san francisco that we will have due process for all and reestablish ourselves as sanctuary city as well. >> thank you. supervisor avalos. >> thank you. one person i want to thank is santiago letterman and interning in my office and instrumental with meetings with other elected officials to put this together and did leg work to bring this ordinance forward and thank you. >> thank you supervisor. the last thing i want to say is thank the speakers who shared their personal stories. it was very moving to hear that and i know it wasn't easy to share that so it meant a ot
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