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way out in advance because we have to public notice it any way and we have to notice it by the plaintiffs any way and the city attorney has to be here any way and so we have to notice it, what i want to do is have it so that if someone is not getting done, we will up hold that abatement. that is what i want to do, i want to have the process, because if we are talking about 440 outstanding cases i think that most of us now that it takes us all morning to hear three or four cases. that is the reality, so all morning for three or four cases? it is going to be send us the worst and the longest cases that is all that i am asking. >> and send us the cases that have been out there, for years, i think that the directors and if it goes to the directors hearings and there should be a discussion on how much advisement can i give. and how much, continuance can you give. >> you see... >> unfortunately the cases that we have, have orders. most of them have orders. and so, well they can't come to
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you unless they feel the order. what i am saying, is that the order is not as effective as it used to be for the people that are not trying to pull money out of the building. >> that is where the other tools have to come into play to get compliance. >> at least that is what i am seeing from our end of things, the type of cases we are dealing with. >> what happens is if you issue an order of abatement and the owner ignores it, and it does not yet appeal to us, what happens next? >> what do the department, what does the department do? >> so we are diligent in billing them to let them know that the time is acuring and we interact with them and we do additional inspection and talk with them and explain to them both in writing and verbally, if they don't respond, that their case will be considered to referral to the litigation
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committee and not all cases that are opened are right for that kind of referral and so that is what i am saying that some of the tools that we used to use, got the attention, because the referals because they did not want to lose all of the money as far as the taxes that was a big incentive and that is not effective any more. >> nov is not ignored even after the order of abatement is issued. >> we are following up the problem is that they are thinner and thinner, and i have been doing these vacantcy, and now that i am staffed back up all of the cases that are open, the new inspecters will help to reconnect with these property owners and get them to comply or find out what the problems are. >> did they file a permit and need help with figuring out what to do with the permit? >> is the unit now vacant and we need to get back in and do an inspection. sometimes this has to do with a
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situation that may be vacant and we can get back in and see that they can make with the repairs or whatever, it just depends on the situation, i will tell you with the down turn in the economy, it got much more difficult to get compliance on these cases. when you don't have the staff to put on the constant pressure, it is not easy to get the compliance. >> and then the other number that we should probably be looking at is how many how many orders were issued within the removed, right? >> you mean revoked? >> yeah. >> we don't revoke an order until all of the work is done. >> that is another number that we should be looking at too, how many orders of abatements shas been revoked or lifted or whatever or removed. >> you talked about that interaction between the inspector and let's say the property owner, right? the two-part question, one is can you track, how many times
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an inspector moves his files to another inspector in the middle of a process and two, are you ever tell us how many inspections, are in a process by in a particular inspector and on a given year? >> and we can tell how many are performed and right on the data sheet, it will say if a different inspector had to go out there, but generally in the housing division, whoever is the district inspector will handle the case up to the time that it gets referred to the city attorney unless they are not available or we rotate. >> ye could not focus on the
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one district and depending on the complaints and the make-up of the buildings it could be, you know, more complicated. but generally, it is that individual, and maybe their superviser interacting with them on a particular case, and it is usually one person and generally, after the first initial inspections a majority of cases, as you can see from the percentages, the majority of the cases get resolved after the second or third reinspection. >> that is the majority and it is that ten to, you know, 17, 15 percent, that are problematic because of the nature of the notice of violation and the other things going on. which just requires more time. and that intersection athose individuals. >> so, theoretically some inspecters would have a different load depending on the cases, correct? >> well. >> at the end of the year do you look at and you have had
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all of these and how many process, and one inspector and a process to 120 and got resolution on 90 percent of that. inspector b, processed 60 percent, and only got resolution on 20 percent, i am trying to figure out >> we look at that, but we have to look at and it is a good point. we have to look at it in the context of the make-up of that inspection district, some have a lot of illegal unit complaints and don't have large apartment buildings. others have large apartment buildings and not as many complaints. and so, these districts for the track boundaries and why we might break them up, we keep the boundaries to look at the historical data but we are not looking at that on a yearly basis, we are looking on that at a weekly basis. i am looking to see what the performance is, on a weekly basis to give you an example fl, and here is the month of april and this is, and i mean,
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this scan through here and this is what i am looking at on a weekly basis of what the performance is. we are also looking at, what is happening, that the inspector needs more help in that area. the problem is that i have not had the flexibility and i have not had the staff as i have said, we have had in districts which were historically, the buildings are in better shape and we had an inspector sign to maybe two of the districts so that we can free up the people for the districts with more problems and so we have definitely been readapting with the resources that we have, as we go. depending upon what the need has been. the inspector, how much file change and how much of somebody has worked on something that we said for four or eight weeks, how many times has that happened to the file and has moved and that one has to start over again. >> they don't. >> typically not. >> because some major reason as to why that would happen.
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>> it would be the inspector is on vai vacation and they are going to do something while they are going typically it is handled by the inspector with the exception of maybe the hotel conversion ordinance or the city attorney cases. >> and the reason why that is, because once you send it to the city attorney, there is more work that has to happen and the district inspector has to keep going with the complaints and the routine, inspections and so we allow one person to focus on it at that point, but they could be sitting side by side and the good thing there is because it is in the same division it is not garbage in and out. there is an accountability there as to what the quality was prepared to go before the city attorney so that the inspector inheriting that gets everything that has been done properly. >> thank you. >> and this is a great presentation, thank you so much for everything. >> okay. >> we will add the ref vocation
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and a monthly break down for you. >> thank you. >> we pill wut it on the basis. >> thank you. >> >> okay. is there any public comment on 7 a through 7 e? >> good morning, commissioners my name is spencer gosh and i have been a building inspector for 23 years, i just want to comment on items b, and e. i guess it is my job to point out the dark side of dbi. the code enforcement process, listening to this and i thought that i should point something out is that one historic flaw in the enforcement process which hopefully has been corrected, is the easy subor nation of these orders and someone comes in and whoever is in charge of issuing it, will say, they have issued or taken out a permit into is your subordination and there is no longer a loan problem, we can finance on the property because
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we subordinated. that is a serious flaw in the system. and i don't know if it has been corrected by now or not. back to item b on this proposed legislation or the health department is trying to get us to enforce noise issues, emissions issues, and there is a history in the department of the health department trying to force us to do things. clearly noise issues are in their jurisdiction, and also, emissions and pollution is not in the building department purview it will be the building or the health department and i think that we should put our foot down and throw this back to them to enforce and we can get out of enforcing the construction noise on the same time and put it on them to do. >> thank you for your time. >> good morning, my name is robert davis, and i was wondering if we could see the
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numbers previous to 2009, last year, or about 18 months ago when we first looked at notices of violation there were 5 and a half thousand opened notices and back to the year 1994, and so, we have gone from about five and a half thousand to 1,500. and wondering where they went. how many open directors meeting there are and now we have many opening notices there are but the opening, and this is unknown number as well and some of the directors hearing are open and they have been found in favor of the city but they have never gone anywhere else and never been pushed to the litigation department or the committee and i was wondering. what happened? what happens to these, these cases where they don't seem to go anywhere. what do we do about that? >> and i was wondering also if
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we could get the information by zip code. and the department enforces the vacant building ordinance, and i was wondering if there was any interest in looking at that as far as the notice of violation, and i was wondering also if there were any changes or improvements over what we know from before, to the notice of violation process. >> thank you. >> any further public comment? >> okay. >> seeing none, item 8 a, commissioners questions and matters inquiries to staff, at this time, commissioners may make inquiry to staff regarding various documents, policies practices and procedures which are of interest to the commission. >> i would for the staff like to see the notices of violation
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by zip code. >> yeah. >> and also, like a little bit analysis of the type of violation. i thought it would be interesting. you know, there is the planning department has really good data in maps on housing renters verses home owner it would be interesting to collaborate with them to overlay our violations map with housing type, you know? it would be interesting to see it. >> i concur. maybe you could look into that by zip code? >> anything further? >> seeing none. >> item 8 b, future meetings and agenda, at this time the commission may discuss and take action to set a date of a special meeting and or determine those items that could be placed on the agenda
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of the next meeting and other future meeting of the building inspection and there is a special meeting on september 25th, at 2:00 p.m. and the next regular meeting is on october 16th at 9:00 a.m.. >> and the room number, for notification, for the special meeting is going to be room 400. >> for the 25th? >> for the 25th. >> and yeah. >> is there any public comment on items 8 a, and b? >> okay, seeing none, item 9, review and approval of the minutes of the regular meeting of june 29, 2013, >> the move the minutes of june 19th. >> second. >> there is a motion and a second to approve the minutes of june 19th. >> and are all commissioners in favor? >> aye.
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>> any opposed? >> and then the minutes are approved. >> items, we are going to item 6, closed session, public employee appointment, director of department of building inspection, discussion and possible action for the interview candidates for the position of director of the department of building inspection, item a, public comment on all matters pertaining to the closed session. >> okay. >> good morning, commissioners, my name is spencer gosh and i am the building inspector here for 23 years, and i apologize for being late previously because i know how much you value my comments, and i am here today to request that you do not permanently appoint tom hewe y or any other current person to the directorship. i believe that they were here speaking about what kind of a good job he is doing for them.
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he is the only one that is doing a good job. >> he has fostered corruption, confuse, races and unprecedented races of dbi and should be removed from office and not furthered in their endeavored. and and i am trying to fight the whole city there. and i can't maintain my anger, that i would like to. but i remember when tom and i used to be friends and had lunch together and those were sort of the good old days and i certainly miss those times but regardless, this is the current situation, and i thank you for your time. >> thank you. mr. gosh. >> >> any further public comment? >> okay, seeing none, item b. possible action to convene a closed session. >> is there a motion. >> move to go to closed session. >> second. >> motion and a second.
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to 1927 when the area where the present playground and center is today was purchased by the city for $27,000. in the 1950s, the center was expanded by then mayor robinson and the old gym was built. thanks to the passage of the 2008 clean and safe neighborhood parks bond, the sunset playground has undergone extensive renovation to its four acres of fields, courts, play grounds, community rooms, and historic gymnasium. >> here we are. 60 years and $14 million later, and we have got this beautiful, brand-new rec center completely accessible to the entire neighborhood. >> the new rec center houses multi-purpose rooms for all kinds of activities, including basketball, line dancing, playing ping-pong, and arts and crafts. >> use it for whatever you want to do, you can do it here. >> on friday, november 16th,
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the dedication and ribbon cutting took place at the sunset playground and recreation center celebrating its renovation. it was raining, but the rain clearly did not dampen the spirits of the dignitaries, community members, and children in attendance. [cheering and applauding] ♪ ♪ >> bonnie banks. bonnie banks. my definition of noise is uncontrolled music. without format.
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pretty simple affair. pancakes, and you're -- people get up on sundays around noon, weekends or whatever. should not be too hard to walk into place. have your audio alarm clock go off for two hours waking your up while you are eating breakfast with many interesting visuals once in a while. improvisation. listening or not to the person you're playing up against or people or machines. trying to get as many different people in as possible. different genres, experimental noise, electronics, dissonance some drums.a tiny bit of
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ambient -- the first noise pancake shows, 1999, the first waffle noise, 2001. god-waffle noise, noise pancake came out of cubist art, place on mission street, brutallo, where the church -- opened up his house and saturday morning cartoons. a big space. you can have everybody set up and barely move equipment around; small room for an audience to move around, walkover and get pancakes without getting burned up in the kitchen.
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there's like people in their hard-core gabber; people into really fast death metal; black metal. people who don't listen to music at all. guy like larnie bock (sounds like) set up huge, motor driven harp. i don't know how to explain it. 40 foot of motors that he had running over strings and wires. and then played each string individually with the mixer. there is a feeling of euphoria
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when somebody's really good at what they do. experiencing a buffer, pushing your bowels out your rear. different. a lot of noise. you don't play clubs with a cleaning schedule, a guy coming in the morning emptying the beer bottles. you play the warehouse. if you travel around you will see the exact same kind of weirdos doing their own thing. it is like in the bay area it's even more absurd. there seems to be more people that in a place like new york or tokyo. we did a show in new york, i didn't think that anyone was at hardly, and people come up and said
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i saw the show. i wish they had some kind of breakfast noise going on over there. i think a lot of people were being, walking out of the shows. that was incredible. i can't believe it's over already, after two hours. if you are reluctant to enjoy something like this it will probably take a mass of peers to sell you on it. it's fine if you stay away. most of the people that come to the shows are pretty happy to be here. you may not be one of them. which is fine.
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>> calling to order the meeting for september 17, for the entertainment commission. just a quick announcement, if you could silence your cell phones and put them on vibrate and if you have a comment at any point in time during the public comment, there are speaker cards in yellow right up there and just fill them out and turn them into the staff and you will be called accordingly. and also, thank you to sfgovtv and media services for making this accessible to the public for everyone that can't be here in this room today. so can we go ahead and start with the roll call? >> commissioner lee? >> joseph. >> here. >> hyde? >> here.
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