because many of them are not enclosed and i think there was a third point. >> with respect to the fire code. >> yeah. and it's a road map, however, in other words, to construct that facility at&t would be required to submit building plans and rereviewed by the san francisco fire department and department of health to make sure that met all the requirements. >> so the roof has to be fire rates or whatever would be the case. >> well, the fir rating would depend upon on the roof in terms of mortgaging and alarm systems. generally they have all the requirements based on what's in

front of them >> thank you. >> you're welcome. >> i would move to approve. >> second. >> if there's nothing further commissioners on the motion to approve (calling names) so moved commissioners that passes unanimously and placed you on item 18 for the next case at the 645 dunn can you think street and this is a full discretionary review. >> good afternoon. doug with staff. you have the discretionary view to construct a 5 thousand 8 hundred and four feet family

dwelling on an unapproved lot. it will be set{not the garage. it's in the nova valley neighborhood and is surround by residential uses. their zoned rh one and to the east rh two. the owner owns the property to the east and is concerned the building scale is too last year. he's also concerned the proposal doesn't meet the set back provisions of the planning code and that will project too far forward and leads to light impacts. the building lacks earth

features a will enhance the neighborhoods character. the requester has suggested the remove of the top story and setbacks felt second and third store to mirror his home and creating additional landscape areas and selecting more nature material and designing a smaller facade with a design preference. the opposition has received a total of 3 hundred and 36 signatures and 10 were written signatures. invasion the neuberger association has submitted a letter in opposition it's out of context with the neighborhood. they've received a letter from the neighbor on the west and has met with the owner and is in

strong falsify. we recommend you approve the project because the scale is comparable with the surrounding buildings in a neighborhood that has a mixed visible character. the garage will providing provide a setback and the second and third story as a 15 foot set back and the fourth floor has a 50 foot set back. this is adjacent to the requesters property. the first, he story wall is set back and there is recess glazing at the second and third stories. the articulate along the east d west evaluations and the

court yard and a - this will result in a higher percentage than set back properties. and finally, it will have balconies and vertical opening windows and guardrails and compliment the character of the neighborhood. that concludes my presentation and i'm available for questions >> requester you have 5 minutes. >> president fong and commissioners aim tracing i tracy and i'm representing the

requester. please let me highlight two important points and i'll yield to the architect. first and foremost the project is in the guidelines with several reporters and most importantly it's out of scale with the neighborhood which is prominently 2 and 3 stories. here's a map of the neighborhood. which we hopefully, will get on the screen here that's also in exhibit d but as you can see the project sponsor is the red in the middle and you can see there are no other 34 story homes in the neighborhood. now you maybe printed with other

pictures or representations this map is accurate. the project sponsor as made no substantial modifications to the project in response to neighborhood concerns. he offered several last december and then moved the ball and refused to honor his plan. we ask you look at this >> i give you the team architect. >> hi i'm an architect consultant and the proposed design on duncan street is in and out of scale and the project does not reflect the architectural plan.

this particular neighborhood is defined by duncan street you can see that here in the image we have. the intersection has a sense of place by a nature hallow. this unique place is established by 7 lots with 653 being the loan eyesore. at 625 duncan has been designed and it's pulled back 6 feet and it's been adjusted on the north and west. those adjustments were considered and similarly by working with the 1 hundred and 40 feet guidelines they're here to help us to captains their better qualities.

although adjustments were that made those adjustments does not address the sense of place it will diminish character of the duncan neighborhood. i represent fully ask the commissioner to take discretionary review. thank you for your time >> i'm bruce. the dr requester. the two big concerns i have with this project is the height and the number of levels which is unprecedent ed with our neighbor which is paramountly over a garage and then the proposed building which is a 5 level building. so we're going concerned about that it doesn't fit and would set a new precedent in the

neighborhood. secondly our setbacks. my lot is zoned rh two it's a two unit building. my feeling is the bigger the structure the bigger the setbacks. there are 5 lots nearby that are set almost to the rear of the lot. so the western part of the level steps back. and our real concern here is the proposed project is straight up at the block phase other than the 3 by 5 no such it's hard to notice. so those are the concerns we have. >> now calling in speakers in

support of the dr i have several cards here. (calling names) >> if your name's been called he can approach the podium. there are more there are quite a few if you want to line up on this side. whoever feels compelled to start >> i'll start first of all, i want to put thirty to rest this is not just bruce's complaint

about this particular building. we had him file it but we belong to the duncan association and we're against it. base when we're saying we are against it we bought several years ago. this building would be fabulous south of market it's very at all 5 feet tall. i would like you to - and i'm going to turn to those maps again for you to look at carefully at those moopz. there's noting none 5 stories at all. it's very narrow. i'm a real estate agent and being a daughter of an architect i think the design is ugly.

since i do sell and do know what people like it's not always will square footage and design something. it is going to just i feel really ruin the beautiful a. ambiance maybe he should go downtown or south of market a lovely neighborhood stroller nova valley. >> hi ladies and gentlemen, i'm mike miller i live four houses down from the subject property. this builder shows no interest

in the neighborhood he has some kind of yoga thing on the top of his building but it it trying to maximum misses this space and he can only put up 0 at all wall. it doesn't fit with the neighborhood and it's disappointing that a builder could come up with something like that. he wants to throw in whatever he can get i please review this property. thank you >> headline commissioners i'm diane. and i'm one of the co- directors of the new berg association.

we're often get asked to help negotiate between neighbors and, you know, a house that's coming in for development. this is our first discretionary review. the firgsz first two we were able to negotiate but we weren't able to work with the developer at all he was pretty much unbe available. you know, a lot of times we get bilaterals who hate developed but we have it constantly going on we're only against people trying to get as much as they can and not consider what's going on in the neighborhood. in this case, the developer is putting a lot of square footage in heel sell it and leave and we're stuck with this big building. and then the next lot and others

around. we're just trying to contain in this case a 5 story building is so outrageous and to start with a 6 story and come down to 5 we're not dealing with someone 0 who is wanting to have this building fit in. we looked at the plans with bruce but the whole neighborhood has been in support because those things are going to work w in the neighborhood. we don't want a fifth story to set precedence in the neighborhood. this doesn't set back and this is on a steep hillside but we want no fifth floor and the third and fourth floors to set back and step up the hill.

we wish the planning department had done that ahead of time we want those changes made and 'r with going ahead with this building. thank you very

>> five story buildings are completely out of character in our neighborhood and i am sure that you guys have been in that neighborhood and you know that, but the dl requestor did present you a heat map that visually describes that. the neighborhood is described as the hills and valleys and this structure does not honor the topography. architecture that steps back before it goes back and reflect its should be a requirement of

this design and i know that the dr requestor talked about the property and the context of his house, but the rest of the neighborhood is much smaller than his house, and the house across the street is extremely smaller. i thank you for listening to the impute of the neighborhood and it is our naid and i think that the neighborhood of san francisco gives san francisco charm and the neighborhood sensibility should have as much, if not greater priority than the sensibility of the san francisco planning department. thank you for hearing our position. >> next speaker, and i will call a few more names but come on up. >> denise kelky, mark hump rey and dale milfay and elizabeth more. >> i am mark and i live on the same block of the proposed development at 548 dunkan and i

have lived there for 48 years and i have been convinced for the neighbors in the neighborhood even longer and just by viewing the current status of the neighborhood, that this development will be a jaring and intrusive and unattractive addition to the valley that we love so much. and one of the things that i have enjoyed is looking out over the valley and understanding the consist and this will detract from that and i love walking around with my dot and her son. and i have carefully considered including today, the site where the development will sit on and understanding what is proposed here and taking all of the information in, it seems like a jaring, obstructionist, and building, that will blot out some of the trees behind, and that it and has not been considered from aesthetic standpoint and so i ask the

department to consider a careful review of the project, thank you. >> my name is susan and i live at 548 duncan street and about a block and a half from the proposed structure, much of what i want to say has been said and so this is brief. ii moved from somo when i had my daughter to the valley that this is a place that has a lot of beautiful homes and i wanted to get away from kind of the big, the big, rectangular boxes and i also enjoy walking around the neighborhood and bruce's home was actually one of the ones that actually caught my eye and i thought that it was done with all of the set backs and a lot of wood paneling and so it blends in nicely, the developer has a big, white, jaring box that he

has proposed to build and that is something that i am opposed and especially that i like walking up the hill and seeing all of the nice homes. and so, this is, for several months and he kept us abreast of what the development that have been happening and he seems like a nice, reasonable person. we have also been wondering why the developer has not met with us and it seems like he has promised a lot to bruce and every time that you either disappeared or let him down, made promises that he does not keep. and so, i would like you to consider the modifications that bruce has proposed. thanks. >> hi, my name is carm en tang and i am reading this letter on

behalf of denise kilky. >> i am currently a tenants at 643 duncan which is four houses east of the construction project. i purchased this house in 1991 after falling in love with the valley and the quaint neighborhood and the homes and the non-city, yet close to the city charm. i looked at many homes in the neighborhoods of san francisco when i was searching for a home to buy and found this home in the valley where all relatively small in size, and which gave the neighborhood its charm with the greenry. and which was my deciding factor. i moved away from san francisco ten-plus years ago and my brother purchased this house for me for the very seem reasons that i bought it for, my brother asked me to represent him. and due to the fact that he was transferred overseas several years ago and cannot currently be here. my family and i are currently

renting this house from him and have been living here for the past three years. today there are a lot of homes being constructed and we now, and renovated in the valley. and many of my friends who live here want to stay because of the way the neighborhood looks and feels. i have not seen any homes go from a one or a two story house, to a five story one. and most renovations are transparent from the street, and are built to blld in with the structures of the other homes on the block. this proposed structure will stick out like a sore thumb and it is so uncharacteristic to the neighborhood. these types of building are being built in the concrete jungle in the neighborhood of san francisco where all of the homes look like boxes and are taller and but since they look like that, they fit right in, hence creating a neighborhood type of its own, my brother has seen a picture of the proposed structure and is utterly

disappointed and upset to see that someone would think about putting a structure like this in the neighborhood. his first words were wow this looks like a hospital in the middle of the 500 to 600 block of duncan street. he is strongly opposed to having a five story massive business that does not architecturally fit in the neighborhood it ruins the neighborhood and takes so much away from the quaintness of the valley. i hope that the city will sympathize and understand why it is so upsetting to the surrounding neighbors and neighborhoods for the structure so massive. and tall to be built. thank you for your time. >> hello, my name is gale snare and i lived on the 500 block of duncan street since 1974. i was instrumental in lobbying when mayor masocon i propositions jay to get the

open space across the street. the duncan new berg association has worked hand in hand with almost every developer in our neighborhood to work with us to put up things that are appropriate, where people have bought and lived as original owners, people have been living in this neighborhood and i have been there almost 40 years, across the street from me was empty space we worked with the developer to make the building, where susan ku lives set back and keep one of them as r1 so it does not obstruct a single family next door, we met the developer that built the person who is requesting the dr. this is the first developer that has just turned a blind eye to us. five stories and the building is taller than his. on a 25-foot lot is just not right for our neighborhood. it belongs in south of market

and it will set a precedent to change the neighborhood to what it is to a concrete jungle and so i urge and and i don't know in the old days, 1987, the planning commission would do a site visit on the houses across the street from this one where the developer wanted a 12 unit condo, and discretion review allowed three single family houses that now go down the hill and are all owned by the original owners, so one turned over this year because of a divorce, this is a speculator and he is not building it for himself. we are a neighborhood and 350 signatures must show how adomant we are opposed a 4 story building will still give him a huge profit. if you have not come to look at our neighborhood, then come and actually look at the neighborhood, and this is a concrete jungle that we don't need.

thank you. >> brian stecland? >> next speaker. >> hi my name is brian steclan and i live at 1500 diamond street and i have been there for 15 years, i apologize for being a little bit late for the meeting i have driven in from san jose and this meet sg important to me. i actually go to go back to work, and i want to be sure that the people who could not be here from work in the area had a voice here. do i want to say that i think that preserving the character of the valley, is appropriate. and there is a lot of stuff in the media about whether or not this is a third story or a five story building. if this is not a five story building, the house that i live in which i consider two story, would have no stories. so i believe that in terms of the character of the neighborhood, you know,

reducing the story is an absolute must of the ongoing development of this effort. >> set backs, if i read through the design guidelines and throughout there he mentions the set backs and preserving the character of holding the privacy and light in the rest of the neighborhood. this is not just about the individual neighborhood, but a lot of bruce and his partner who has put a lot of his effort in pushing through this and it is also the character of the entire neighborhood and set backs as it should continue to go back and into this building and would hopefully put this thing, better in perspective and in scale with the rest of the neighborhood. we are not against the development, and we have had a lot of stories, and a lot of houses that have gone up in the last five years, but there does come a point where too much is four the neighbors that preserves its own character. thank you so much. >> are there any other speakers in support of the dr? come