meet to meet an essential value. >> okay. so do you know what the outreach is that for individuals to know that they are supposed to be shopping as of 8 days? >> yes. the 8 days is the start of the open enrollment period. actually the open enrollment is october 1st and ends march 31st. there is a lot of outreach. they sent a lot of money called navigate ors and outreach. they are working with brokers and that's why at this point there are about 13,000 brokers to advise their clients. >> the second question i have is for some small businesses

like my own when we have manager coverage and not medical coverage for part-time employees because they are under sf healthy. my understanding is that they are no longer valid. >> each plan interprets that underwriting guideline a little differently. it's really up to the -- let's start from a the group size is determined by the number of those eligible. the group numbers of the last quarter on average how many people worked 30 or more hours. then from there you qualify into the health plans. if you are in exchange, depending on

how you cover your partners and then it determines who gets to enroll and who doesn't. if they as part-timers, if in their employer coverage, they can go into the exchange and apply for the exchange. >> so you are not a hundred percent, like my manager already has coverage, this care as a small business owner, an i can just offer medical coverage for everybody. >> depends on how they wrote the rules on engaging your current design. because when you renew, they may or may not change those guide liens. the exchange, it's kind of your determination of how you want to cover. there are some employers that cover all of

their part-timers as well. baited based on what you make. it depends on what your health plan would underwrite that and how theyen -- engage those rules with you. >> had are is the last question. do you know then, based on that how sf healthy is going to comply with? because it seems like it's still an issue with what i'm hearing? >> yeah, i think, at least looking on their website, what they are doing if there are people currently eligible for people san francisco, it's part of their renewable process to see if they are qualify for

covered california or medi-cal. they are going to use this to see if they qualify for one of those programs. if they don't, then they qualify for medi-cal. for people new into san francisco, i know that counselors are still going to run that tropical storm whether you are eligible for california or qualify for this or medi-cal or if not, then, healthy center san francisco. i know they are sorting out that process. >> it's very frustrating for me because as an employer, what am i going to tell my employees as of october 1st, that based on the affordable act, that they are required to get individual insurance, but what is the outstanding answer or question to their healthy program related to that? >> they qualify for an annual

program with healthy san francisco when they renew. whenever they first came on to health sf, their program counsel or would say you are not in a plan. here is the coverage. i should nengs covered california portal is going to be used for medi-cal screening too. you qualify for one 1 bucket or the other. that is my understanding of their logic. >> commissioner riley?

>> thank you for coming to make the presentation. what other outreach effort do you have? did you reach out to the merchants group in the non-profits. >> yeah. one of the things we company a lot of is community outreach. we sponsor tables at health fares. wherever those situations arise we are there. for example just this week we were at the china house and a couple weeks ago we worked on the health fare, we worked at the lunar festival on health care. we have a number of seminars. for example the outreach manager is doing some of these talks at public

libraries. so we are doing as much as we can being a leaner organization and also providing information. >> you also mentioned earlier that a lot of brokers and agents have already signed up for training. is it safe to say that if we have any questions we can go to our certified brokers? >> correct. if they are certified, even if they are not certified, they are very aware of what's going on. the certification allows them to enroll and underwrite into exchange. so most of the brokers, a large number of the brokers are going to be up on this. >> sounds good, thank you. >> in i other questions? excellent presentation. >> thank you. >> a lot of us have been trying to get our heads wrapped around

this issue. we've had a couple of presentations. yours is one of the better ones because it laid it out there and it's kind of untangled a lot of that. it's here and i really appreciate your thoughts. so thank you. really, quick, do we have any is there any additional public comment? seeing none, public comment is closed. thank you, larry. that was a really good presentation. we may have you back. >> thank you. >> if we can get a copy of that, that would be good. that was a great presentation. >> can you leave some of your business cards. >> thank you very much. >> before we move on, i want to point out in the commissioner binders there is a fair amount of background material. it's important and informative. even

though it's dense, there is critical information. you can see there is two example model notices in the employer notification that is required for employers to provide to their employees no later than october 1st. this is a mold for employers who do not have insurance plans and those who do. this needs to be completed by october 1st. if you have any constituents our viewers out there that needs to get their hands on this, they can request a copy. >> item no. 7. legislative and policy committee report. >> this is a report from the last meeting. we an approved at

our last commission meeting and the massage parlor ordinance that we heard at the last commission meeting which the body approved at the policy committee meeting. that's all i have. >> for me, that outreach, we heard from the assess oris office about -- we need to do public comment first. >> is there any additional public comment? seeing none, public comment is closed. >> item no. 8. >> the outreach committee report and discussion and possible action item. >> yeah, at our meeting commissioner white and i were present and we had a presentation about the business property tax and really

informational. no action required. >> is there any additional public comment? seeing none, public comment is closed. >> item no. 9. president's report. >> the only thing i have to report is i did attend the counselor district meeting at the brewery along with my fellow commissioner mark dwight. director and secretary murdock. >> i missed it. >> tomorrow is the bay view merchants meeting at the anchor brewery. >> if you can get to one of those. i took something off my bucket list. in supporting your good san francisco institution. it was very informative. i liked what the different merchant corridors have to say. that is all i have at this

time. >> great. item no. 10. vice-president's report. >> nothing to report except that i'm going tomorrow to the bay view to a meeting. looking forward to that. >> next item, please? >> item 11, commissioner report. discussion item. >> any commissioner report? >> yes, i reported we were working with the sba, small business development center which is a non-profit organization. we put up the money smart for small businesses. we expected 20-30 people. out of our surprise we had almost 100 people attend. we had to turn people away because we were at capacity. no more chairs. anyway. i stayed through the whole workshop. it

was really good. they covered organization times and financial management, recordkeeping and credit reporting. this is insurance and planning. we had several outstanding speakers. i also reviewed some of the evaluations and i say 99 percent were very positive. i think this is the first chinese seminar for a long time in san francisco. we had a lot of request to do more. >> thank you very much and thank you for sphere heading that. any other commissioner comments? seeing none. >> item 12. >> any members of the public who would like to make any comments on future business. is there any additional public comment? seeing none, public comment is closed. >> item 13. new business?

>> any new business for this commission for future meetings? seeing none, next item. >> item 14, adjournment. >> we have a motion to adjourn. >> move to adjourn. >> second. >> all in favor say, "aye". >> aye. >> meeting adjourned. thank you. >> bonnie banks. bonnie banks. my definition of noise is

uncontrolled music. without format. pretty simple affair. pancakes, and you're -- people get up on sundays around noon, weekends or whatever. should not be too hard to walk into place. have your audio alarm clock go off for two hours waking your up while you are eating breakfast with many interesting visuals once in a while. improvisation. listening or not to the person you're playing up against or people or machines. trying to get as many different people in as possible. different genres, experimental noise,

electronics, dissonance some drums.a tiny bit of ambient -- the first noise pancake shows, 1999, the first waffle noise, 2001. god-waffle noise, noise pancake came out of cubist art, place on mission street, brutallo, where the church -- opened up his house and saturday morning cartoons. a big space. you can have everybody set up and barely move equipment

around; small room for an audience to move around, walkover and get pancakes without getting burned up in the kitchen. there's like people in their hard-core gabber; people into really fast death metal; black metal. people who don't listen to music at all. guy like larnie bock (sounds like) set up huge, motor driven harp. i don't know how to explain it. 40 foot of motors that he had running over strings and wires. and then played each string

individually with the mixer. there is a feeling of euphoria when somebody's really good at what they do. experiencing a buffer, pushing your bowels out your rear. different. a lot of noise. you don't play clubs with a cleaning schedule, a guy coming in the morning emptying the beer bottles. you play the warehouse. if you travel around you will see the exact same kind of weirdos doing their own thing. it is like in the bay area it's even more absurd. there seems to be more people that in a place like new york or tokyo. we did a show in new york,

i didn't think that anyone was at hardly, and people come up and said i saw the show. i wish they had some kind of breakfast noise going on over there. i think a lot of people were being, walking out of the shows. that was incredible. i can't believe it's over already, after two hours. if you are reluctant to enjoy something like this it will probably take a mass of peers to sell you on it. it's fine if you stay away. most of the people that come to the shows are pretty happy to be here. you may not be one of them. which is fine.

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>> meeting to order. commissioner to renew. >> here, kimberly brandon. >> here. willy adam. >> present. >> item 2 approval for the august 20, 2013 meeting. >> so moved. >> second. >> all in favor. >> i. >> i. >> item 3 public comment executive session. commiters before we go further, item peer 38 under legal council has been taken off the calendar. vene a session. >> second. >> move all in favor. >> i. >> i. >> i move to not disclose anything discussed in closed session. >> second. >> all in favor.