then. >> great job. thank you. melanie, and one, quick question about the party which was great, you know, we at one point there was 200 folks and at one point, i noticed that there were four commissioners, just as a point of clarification from the city attorney, what is mr. brown and n s act ssiofourrs? we can say hey what is going on, i like your shoes and good party and we can't talk about the environment commission business? >> we were not using survey monkey at the party. >> yeah. >> if you want to go ahead i will find the exact. >> okay, just curious, because there might be a time when all seven of us are there celebrating, what do we do, we look the other way and we just say, you know, what happened to the 9ers this weekend? what do we do?

>> we under no circumstances will talk about that. we could talk about the english premier league you will get at least two of us interested in that. subject matter. >> okay. and then, i don't think that we have action. yes. >> as stated in the city's good government guide which is a summary of the public meeting laws and public record laws, the attendance of a majorty members of at policy body at a recreational gathering is not a meeting, it is one gathering is not sponsored or organized by or for the policy body. and two, the majority of the members refrain from using the occasion to discuss business within the subject matter jurisdiction of the body. >> okay. >> does that mean a minority

can? >> i would have thought that anyone can't. >> a minority. less than a majority of the body can always meet and discuss. the public notice agenda requirements etc., are for when there is a quorum of the body. but that also applies to the committees. >> yes. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> all right. >> public comment? >> this item? >> seeing none. the item is closed. >> announcements. >> getting to the end. >> announcements, colleagues,

any announcements? >> seeing none, any public comment? >> seeing none, can we go on to the president's announcements? >> i have three announcements, we are almost at the end of the agenda, we are getting closer and, we are really almost at the end of the agenda, and any public comment? >> seeing none, item 18, please? >> new business, future agenda items. >> commissioner wald? >> so i have a brief issue, this is in response to comments that i received from people in my community following our last meeting, i would just appreciate it if the president would clarify for the record that at our last meeting, we did not adopt a statement of any kind, so clean power.

>> and i think that after, what most would say, is a very brief, and uneventful, conversation, we had a discussion about trying to synthesize our thoughts around a statement but i think that the record would reflect that we did not approve a statement on that evening. and i think that our clerk monica, might confirm such. there was no action taken to develop the statement. >> we do have a request from the public to think about it again. >> right. >> but it was very confusing at the end there. and i appreciate your taking the time to clarify that, because a number of people as i said were confused. >> commissioner king? >> at some point in time i would like to dive into the

conversion of grass fields and to athletic, to synthetic fields and so at some point in time i like to deal with that more closely. thank you, commissioner king. >> colleagues? future agenda items? >> new business? >> one thing, you know, so much stuff, you know, so little time, one of the things that i was getting some feedback, from some folks, you know, we encourage more and more community partners in our programs, the carbon fund grant and we extended to get the applicants in with the programs and we got the feedback that the process was difficult to understand and that we might want to do some guidance and some questions around the number of page limits or what was the page limits and i guess that we gave the folks some more time to maybe think through, because, you know, as a result i read the rfp and i thought that i was reading a

science manual which is okay and it is scientific stuff and you know the genus and the species of trees and all of that stuff and maybe for operations, something about maybe, inventing the community, friendly rfp, something that is really, based on the results that organizations do in the community, and maybe gives a nudge and guidance on how to tell that story, but a lot of organizations are so great at doing the work, but sometimes, you know, to write the magic language and to write the species of the tree, it just gets more challenging. just thought... yes, director. >> thank you, president arce for that recommendation. i am happy to state that we started that discussion at the dependant and we are lucky to have resources at the department that we can provide to the community to engage them in the environmental work and to help them meet our environmental goals and that does mean that we have come up with a number of different rfp processes that exist in one

department and we are in the process of looking at all of the rfps that we run and particularly with an eye towards of how to make sure that the bar is such that it is as many community members who want to participate and apply can do so in a way that is not confuse and straight forward and provides the most opportunity for the most groups. >> thank you for the discussion and i will be happy to come back with the staff at operations or at the full policy committee to give you a report on what we determined. >> thank you, melanie. >> any other points, public comment on this item? >> mr. brooks? >> good evening, again, eric brooks, san francisco green party local grassroots organization. and our city and san francisco clean energy advocates, first i want to second commissioner king's proposal and there is new evidence coming out that the tire chrome that goes under a lot of these artificial turf fields is very, is more toxic

than was previously believed, and particularly for children and wild life. and we need to analyze that much more closely. because the new evidence on that is showing that we should not be using this stuff. >> and there are all, there are alternatives to the tire crumb. >> i am against any plastic turf and there are alternatives and i think that the best one is grass. >> and then on the clean power sf, issue, and i just want to make sure that to reiterate yes, the, the advocates want in the next meeting, and i mean hopefully not taking a lot of time in that meeting if it is in the bay view and the next meeting for the commission to take a stand on this issue. and to advocate to move forward immediately and i would say

that the commission's number one criticism which was spot on at the last meeting, was that was quite correct, but the built out work from the sfpuc especially, is not there yet. and now, the work that was laid on the table in front of you guys in your march meeting by local power is pretty well baked and it is not complete yet and it needs to be completed and i think that the main point that we as advocates wants to say to you instead of waiting for the sfpuc to get that work completed and telling them hey, you did not complete that work so the program can't move forward and go ahead and help us move the program forward and get it in gear and get those rates, and what we are calling you on to do is work with the board of supervisors on the lafco to the extent that they will work with you, the sfpuc on getting the build out plan finished. and so that we don't have to make our, and we don't have to delay the program and we are

saying to you, is instead of saying that it is not ready, help us make it ready and work with them to make it ready and so that we don't have to wait and start the program immediately and so that is what we would like to see at your next meeting is something that takes a strong stand for this commission and this department to take a strong lead in moving this forward in the next year. >> thank you. >> comments on this item? >> seeing none, public comment is closed. item 19, please? >> excuse me >> commissioner king. >> my apologies, i have something work-related that i need to have going on about 7:00 for. so i need to be excused. >> not a problem, commissioner king. >> we are still five? i can't count. four? >> five, okay. thank you. >> yes?

>> commissioner josefowitz? >> no. >> item 19 please? >> >> public comment on memberss of the public may address the commission on matters that are within the commission's jurisdiction and not on today's agenda. >> >> jackson again, and i came and especially i came before this committee, and a year ago. about a building at 3453rd street where there was to be a wellness interview and in that area is very toxic. and it is close to the sewage plant which is very toxic. and right at the area there, they have the railroad tracks and they have the train coming in there and it is not a safe area but the children or adults to be in that area, and i had requested that this body do

environmental impact, you know, study, for that area. because, what i have found out, as of yesterday, there is, i will not talk about that, any way, what i would like to see whether or not you all will please help my community, the people are dying, from the toxic out there. and we don't know children not seeing as anyone else being in that area because of the toxic there. and it is very bad but they want to do it any way, and they need to be you all. for the safety and health of the people and so i am coming to you to see whether or not you are going to do this and it needs to be down within a month. because there are plans now coming about to really start trying to build in that area.

it is not a safe area, i would not be saying this, because if i did not know, because you see the people are pointed to a lot of committee commissions that don't know bay view hunter's point and they do not know the community and they don't know the danger in that area and so will you please, please, take care of my children in bay view hunter's point as well as seniors because i am 80 years old and i just keep fighting and keep fighting and keep saying it, get this done, please? will you all do that for me? please? and i will come before you again and i don't want to have to come back asking for the same thing to happen. so i don't know if you all were on the committee at the time when i requested it last year, but i do know that someone came before this commission, and i guess in the last month, with the same thing. and thank you so much. >> and you all have a blessed evening. >> dr. jackson.

>> i know we are not supposed to talk about building and lands use and i bring the by laws to the meetings and i was trying to with the tail end of what dr. jackson was saying, as long as we are not reviewing or making recommendations will there be anything against the department making a kind of inquiry on behalf of the environmentalist community leader just with with respect to because there has been comments around this proposal to even find out the status of it, the environmental review and something with the team and we would not be reviewing or making recommendations just inquiring just a petition of the folks with the environmental questions. i hope that i said that loud enough. >> it sounds like that kind of inquirly would be appropriate and more general or broad based

would be better. >> okay. >> rather than addressing one specific building, if you could ask about some sort of assessment for that neighborhood. >> and i know, but i think that we have heard a couple of times about the particular sites or a block, and you know that i think is... >> and that could also be fine, but again, a particular structure or a particular use, you are getting a little closer. and maybe we could figure out off line that we would love for us to be a place in folks for a petition and the community members to try to get that information. and let's see, seeing no other public comment. public comment is closed. item 20 please? >> public comment on all matters pertaining to the subsequent closed session on public employee performance plan and appraisal report. >> do we have any public comment on our closed session item which is 22 on the agenda?

>> seeing no public comment, public comment is closed any, i think that is it on that item. >> so, on whether to hold closed session to evaluate the performance of the executive director melanie nutter this is an action item. >> i think who can confirm that is appropriate and it has been led to my understanding and so if i could entertain a motion from colleague to hold closed session to evaluate the performance of our executive director. >> motion. >> second. >> okay. >> all of those in favor? say aye. >> aye. >> okay. and at first, for us in sfgovtv our relationship we have got to do something. >> this will be a closed

session on the public employee performance and apraysal. and you have a topy of the plan and report and this is a discussion and possible action item. we will wait to go into

>> open closed session. vote to whether to hold >> all of those in favor, say aye. >> aye. >> thus there is no report. and on the possible closed session, and we are at that last, item, but i just want to say, everyone, please, i hope that you recognize, monica and her amazing working of all of the different steps that it takes to go live on to stgof and she is switching microphones for different speakers to talk to and she is talking to the eye in the sky somewhere to get everything working in closed session, and

sthe has us on everything, she has provided us guidance on how to do our job with the switch and so, we would like to if we can move to item 24 and get a motion to adjourn. with the big thank you to monica, i would appreciate it. >> colleagues? >> i move that we adjourn and that we thank monica for all of her work. >> second. >> any public comment. >> seeing none, all of those in favor to adjourn. >> say aye. >> thank you for the recognition. >> thank you.

>> i will point out anyone to point out the motions taken that will make the city government more open to participation and i sao knowing other than shuffling paperwork. >> can't do it, can't you? i will challenge any member of this ethic's commission or its staff to point out actions taken to make it more responsive to the public. >> can't do it, can you? >> and i would challenge any public of the ethics commission or its staff to point out the actual value received for the millions of dollars spent by this body, each year. >> again, i don't think that you can do it. this is not to say that the

ethics commission could not do any or all of these things, instead the commission and the members appointed by the officials over om they have oversight choose to do nothing. worthless as tits on a bull. bottom line is that you are here to maintain the ethics of this city. and yet i have looked and been involved in this this for a number of years now and i nothing that the ability of the public to get the public records, in fact, every finding of the sunshine ordinance task force that has come before you, on that matter has been denied. i have found nothing that shows that you have done anything that allows the public access to meetings. anything that has come before you has been denied with the one sevensing. that is the case of jewe l gomez that you recommend be removed from her office as the

president of the library commission, the mayor ignored you and i have done public records request to this body and what we see is that if you do try to do something, which this the only case. the mayor just ignores you. >> do you go through the motion and hope that everyone will congratulate you on the job that you did and you can look at me, and you can sit there and look like you are rolling your eyes, but that is just idiotic and bottom line is that you don't do anything. i don't think that any of you if you were put to the task could point out anything that you have done for this city to enhance the ability of the citizens of this city, to see any improvement in the ethics

of any of hartz just said. reading allen superior court case, it is absolutely shocking that all 39 sunshine referrals for enforcement, they were adjudicated at the sunshine task force, and following lengthy hearings, and lengthy deliberations by the task force members who are knowledgeable about the sunshine were referred here and all of them, all of them, all 39, was or were dismissed by this body. your role is not to find exculpatory reasons to toss out

complaints that have been upheld for the sunshine task force. mr. hartz made a good point, the citizens in this town deserve much better. and it is high time that this body, hire an outside efficas a ashamed of yourself. >> any other comments? >> from the public? >> good evening. the executive director of the library users association. and microphone seems a little bit short here. and as a previous speaker, as mentioned, well, several, in particular, in the case of jewe l gomez, a letter from you to the mayor which he completely ignored, and did not have the

courtesy of responding the receipt of your letter, urging him to sack her for her behave or at a library commission and shutting down public comment, from a particular member of the public. you did a year later send a follow up letter, certainly follow up letters, would be appropriate, and as previous speaker mentioned that one seems to have been ignored as well. it seems to me that you are asking to be put in oblivion in effectiveness or credibility as a body if you make recommendations which you will then now go without even the courtesy of an acknowledgment. and i have not recently kept up with what the status is of the

jewel gomez case but not having heard anything and i assume and maybe i should ask, i would like to know whether the ethics commission has heard anything from the mayor's office, with respect to its two letters. and i would be interested to know whether the ethics commission has followed up with the third letter, or plans to do so. as i say, the message that people get is if you don't pursue your own actions with some level of reasonable vigor, i think that people might likely will put you in a category of ineffective and don't worry about them, they don't do anything. and so i do have a specific question with respect to the status of the jewel gomez case, whether there has been a third or any other communication with the mayor and particularly any

response. >> we are on the commission have not requested an additional communication with the mayor on this matter. and mr. st. croix, we have not heard from the mayor we have? >> thank you. >> any other public comments? >> in that case, we will move to complaint referred to us by the sunshine task force. mr. st. croix? >> you do have a staff report making a recommendation on this. before you, i would point out that, at approximately 3:00 this afternoon, pastor gavin sent an additional request for a continuance. this item has been continued three times, already. and at the june 24th meeting,

the commission granted pastor gavin's last request for a continuance. but specifically stated that another continuance would not be granted absent a showing of good cause, the memo that went to the respond ant and complainant pointed out that it had to be in write and show good cause and had to be delivered no mater than monday, september 9th and since this game in today, and it is absent any reliable information as to the validity of the request, the commission will be well within its right to go with