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anything about what happens on the sidewalk. that's only going to further the noise. we all know very well there's a large threat for people who pickup prescription medication to go out at night. it doesn't add any i kind of security or adding the security guard and cameras the 24 hours pharmacy is not something i'm going to support >> can i 60's ask is the entrance on the sidewalk is there an entrance from the parking lot garage into the store? >> good afternoon chair fong and members manufacture i'm the
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project manager from the customer parking garage sub service garage it leads to a shared lobby internal 0 to the space as well as the door you indicated on the corp. >> there's two enterprises. so at night you might be able to pull into the garage and enter through the center of the building >> that's correct. >> commissioner. if i could produce that map on the screen >> so this idea of over concentration. here's the subject site and here's the blue circle are where they're currently type of 20 and 21 licenses that is where what the cvs is applying for there
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are two such licenses. if you want to talk about offer transmission you'll want to talk about an area that happens in >> well, i'm happy to refer to that map and the blue dots that show the licenses within, you know, a couple of the blocks we're talking about. god i don't know if it will pass by the motion stands so far as i'm concerned and i'm going to a vote against the motion i support the twenty-four hours. commissioner >> i don't have the crime statistics from the 50s or 40s i have an old picture and i can spot 5 establishment that having
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had the acholic beverages but i always felt the number you have it's not that but how it's policed. i'm against the motion because of the twenty-four hours and if i make a subject motion i'll be silent on the motion of acholic beverages and we'll talk that up later >> i think that if i'm willing to forego the 24 hours but not willing to forego the liquor licenses i'll mainstream the hours but no liquor sales and i
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don't think the planning commission should advocate it's responsibilities as we're being asked by the project sponsor and cast off to the arena of the commissioner. i think the commissioner are well aware of the responsibility it has to address that issue >> commissioner wu. >> i'm echo wiokay with the am motion. >> i don't think we're advocating. mined we'll approve this project silent on beer and wine at this time and it would have to go back to cvc and come back to us so we have to make a motion today >> no, no it wouldn't come back to you.
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abc has identified this as an area of over a transmission the project sponsor can ask to have it over ridden so when the pc n would have to be heard by the board of supervisors and they'll have to allow the utilities >> well, if increases a sunset motion the end result will be the same but if some commissioners want to have a vote put it as part of the motion. >> commissioner moore. >> and i'm not the the board of supervisors will ask us to comment on it for looking at land use and it's appraisement i appropriate land uses. >> and yeah, we deal with the
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concentration within the planning code. i don't think the beer and wine from pharmacies are generally, the problem. we've day and night with this and have impacted actual restaurants tourism and it wouldn't be fair to look at it any differently >> commissioners there is a motion and a success second and with the modification to allow the twourdz is there a motion to tie it to the pharmacies. >> yes. >> are you saying that the project sponsors representing the pharmacy would be open wherever the store is open. >> yes. when the steer is open. >> does the motion say no alcohol? >> the motion as is stands is
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no alcoholic sales at. location. >> and did commissioner you want to add if it goes to twenty-four hours to add security guard. >> i think the alcohol is not the problem but i think security is did i want and they should provide that in the overnight hours. >> good idea. >> that's fine. >> okay. so we're going air-conditioned security and cameras. i'm concerned with no alcohol for us as the store operators own sense of what he needs but not our dictating he has to have security. but since the alcohol has been
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eliminated i think the owner needs to determine that. i'm a little bit weary. what does the city attorney have to say about that >> kate from the city attorney's office. i think if the commission has articulated concerns about security in the neighborhood unities if you're thinking the security guard will not only in the store or outside the store in the neighborhood. i'm not sure what the commissions concern is >> it's fairly typical i mean the security inside and around the store. we've done it before and with other stores and your condition would be there be security on site that operates in the store
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and around the adjacent >> around mint to 6:00 a.m. hours it might be specified so they don't have to operate security only if they operate twourgz. from 6:00 a.m. to 8:00 a.m. okay >> well, i'm kind of with commissioner moore. if they need it they'll provide s it but if the rest of the commission wants to have 10 to 6 that's fine >> are you amending the motion. >> yes. and just in terms of endorse ability of a condition that we have a human open site (laughter) at specific hours it's something well cameras can be put on
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plans. >> okay. >> commissioner. >> yeah. i would favor that if we have to make it a finding and not conferring condition but i'm voting against this particular motion but if we get one i can vote for we want project sponsor to have is a security guard present the evening hours and something like police special patrol they take care of the store but cruise the neighborhood and since they have uniforms similar to the sfpd you don't have to use that but that's the kind of thing that would be most effective. just because you're not going to have alcohol doesn't mean people
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don't do bad things >> commissioners there a motion and a second - >> sorry do you want to respond. >> yes. i understand what you're saying and we're comfort if you gives or don't give us hours but if it goes twenty-four hours we're going to provide the security guards. i want to make a clarification here if you give me an opportunity >> do you have the floor to ask for classification. >> yes. >> just looking for clarification in the area of the acholic beverage sales when we were here before the determination was that a
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condition couldn't be place on it prohibiting alcohol and hearing commissioner moore's comments they not give up their decision my question is moving forward is this an advisory condition to the board to suggest they do not allow or simple a prosecution prohibition for clarity sake. >> i might have to ask the city attorney. if we didn't favor beer and wine sales is it advisory or a condition or does the decision have to be made at the board of supervisors >> commissioners tests up to the commission whether or not you want this to be an advisory
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part of a finding or to make that a condition because you don't see that a condition at this site of alcohol is w56r7b9d at this site but at any time really up to the commission to determine how it wants to condition that's conditional use permit. >> thank you. there are a couple more speakers but i'm going to vote against this project it has indoor partnering and there's a need for a 24 pharmacy i would be in support of beer and wine to a reasonable hour at night. this is a side denim san
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francisco is closed quite earlier and i don't stay up to the wee hours of the night but after diner and i want to pick up bananas or cereal so if san francisco wants to become a greater city and i this you all see the city changdz people are working twenty-four hours a day under any circumstances it's not a 9 to 5 society anymore so combleer in certain areas where we go 24 hours commissioner borden >> one final thing about the cvc. people pay off neighborhood grasps to get a liquor licensing
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license or to detriment the neighborhood. we see them far too ouch and i would prefer your supporting the cvc prior already and not holding that over your heads >> commissioner moore. my understanding is it's a condition as stand not an advisory >> commissioner if there's nothing else further this is a condition of approval not advise to the board of supervisors. >> we we would add the condition of the land use in the district. >> yes. >> commissioners so that the condition of approval would
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prohibit alcohol and require the pharmacy stay open all hours of operation twenty-four hours with security between 10:00 p.m. and 6:00 a.m. with additional finding to be modified from the city attorney's office to the motion. on that motion commissioners (calling names) >> commissioners that motion passes 4 to 3. commissioners can we move on? commissioners item 189 has been withdrawn which will take us to 20 a and b for case numbers d and v at the 225 santa ana
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avenue and request for variances. >> good afternoon, members of planning commission. planning staff on behalf of the southwest leader mr. washington presents a discretionary view requests for the property at the 225 santa ana avenue. the proposed work to the current single-family dwelling includes to lift the existing house up by approximately 2 feet in order to convert the current under
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developed garage to be an inhabitual floor and also an additional at the southeast corner of the building. that is in the yard and is subject to a variance. the c r was filled by the property owner of 2 hundred 20 san bernardino way behind the subject property. the application has already been included in the packet and basically, the requester is concerned biologist the house up by 2 feet would effect their view of the second floor rear windows. and secondly, the operation of the house without resulting an
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inner construction that is not comparable with the neighborhood in terms of building scale. the department also received several additional support letters to the project. those had been froitd us after the dr packets had been delivered so - the proposal has been reviewed by your residential design team and our d t found the project wouldn't present imply xierld circumstances under the guidelines. first they're not protected under the guidelines and secondly the overall 2 feet of
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building heightened has no significant impact on the neighborhood character in terms of building scale. and another reason this case was also continued from an earlier date in july and the reason is that there was additional resource evaluation need and the result resource conclusions that it wouldn't cause a significant impact in the district over context harassing as proposed. this concludes our presentation i'll be happy to answer any questions >> i'm not sure dr. requester.
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>> i want interpreter in chinese. i need that >> commissioners there was a request for a interpreter that was arranged to be here they were scheduled between 5 and 7. >> and before the hearing i have a question. sorry for my english. >> i think you're doing well so far. >> today's hearing is
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conditional from our meeting of july 11th but i received the e-mail that they no hearing. and the hearing will later. so until last week, i got this one and the saying is testimony from july 11th i don't know why. and i myself >> if i could interrupt i menu the continuous is you follow the calendar upon the continuance but i think the commissioners should take up the matter of the interpreter that appears that the speaker is capable in english it appears there was a request made and we try to
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accommodate all the requests. i was cc'd on the request that an interpreter was arranged >> my understanding the interpreter would be available at 5. >> it was scheduled for the terminator to be here between 5 and 7. >> if we can have the interpreter here we he can recess it until p then that's my feeling. >> commissioner moore. >> i would ask whether or not the applicant needs time to discuss the issue required for the translation. i'm comfortable to hear it in the evening either way >> what's next week's calendar look like. there are aren't many items on
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your calendar commissioners, however, the items scheduled a needy 1601 larkin >> would you be able to make a phone call. >> why don't we take a 5 minute break. >> let me see if i can contact the person who makes
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>> okay. great. >> we are here. that is right. >> i would like to welcome everyone back to the san francisco planning commission regular hearing for september 26, 2013, we left on your
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regular calendar, 20 a, b,. request for discretionary review and variance to be considered by the zoning administrator and we have been waiting on the interpreter who promised to arrive at 5:00 and she has done so and so we can start with the presentation, if the interpreter would be so kind. [ speaking in a foreign language ] >> first of all i wanted to ask, why today's date has been continued from july 11th? why it is being continued? >> you can let her know this is not a question and answer session, she can make her presentation and she is awarded 5 minutes.
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[ speaking in a foreign language ] >> i believe this particular project does not match or is not right for our community. because they have raised about 2 feet up. and also, the back wall has been extended to about 4 feet. added a bathroom. so it is a very obvious changes, so it will make a disturbance or making, you know, very difference and look for the community. the reason they bought this, is
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because due to the health of the owner... but according to the plans that they have submitted, in order to get to the bedroom upstairs they have to climb stairs from the main building. from what i believe is just two parties support for this. actually it is support me, support my doing. the two of the people. however, in the document only mentioned one, the other one was not being mentioned.
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the project owner who gets the support if those people is not within the 100 feet of our community. even though according to the letter that was being drafted by the home owner's association. in that particular letter indicated that they are only making very small and minor changes. however, in the reality, the
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actual project, the entire property has been raised two feet up. and then the basement they take down four feet deep. and then the bedroom including to five bedroom. and also, the garage in the corner, they extend it four feet. and also the upstairs, the bathroom, they have extended the bathroom like the roof. however, in a community there is a few houses that already make the remodeling. because we are on a slope, so the front and the