and the final report is imminent. this will help inform the development of the master plan. as to recommendation number three, funding the master plan to determine the programic capital requirements for a viable facility. this is partially implemented. the needs assessment process is under way. the department has requests funding in the prior year budget for master plan -- funding for the master plan has been deferred to the fiscal year 2014-2015 budget. we're very hopeful and positive that that will be sustained in our budget in the upcoming fiscal year. as to the final finding number four, creating partnerships with community organizations and foundations and other jurisdiction. 4.1

is exploring charity foundations to further develop the law cabin ranch in hidden valley facilities. this recommendation is being implemented. the juvenile probation commission created an add hok community. members of that commission have also expressed their interest in developing public, private partnerships to support the juvenile develop. this requires work and analysis. partnership with the mayor's office and the board of supervisors. as to recommendation 4.2 to exam collaboration with regional counties to develop programs and address the needs of high kiss risk and at risk youth,

this requires analysis. we've reached out to our neighboring probation department as to a reasonable alternative to the division of the juvenile justice. unfortunately those conversations were not fruitful. there's new leadership including the leadership in our department and i'm happy to reinvigorate that conversation. in conclusion the juvenile probation department in conjunction with the other city response in the mayor's office appreciates the work of the civil grand jury and this opportunity to highlight law cabin ranch and focus on the needs of the facilities and the youth and the community it serves. >> are there any members of the public that like to comment on

items two and three. >> no comments from the civil grand jury yet. through supervisors, cohen and tang. >> my name is today and i'm the chair of the the juveniles commission is an arm of superior court. and commissioners are appointed by the supervising judge of san francisco unified family court. our mandate is in california and welfare institutions code and it establishes a justice commission in each county and charges our commission with inquiring into the administration of juvenile justice in san francisco. there's 12 commissioners serving in a capacity. we expect the facilities and programs of the juvenile justice system and group homes that youth are assigned to and adult lock ups where juveniles are held. in the expansion of programs for the youth residing

at law cabin ranch and a viable master plan, we are in favor of those. we endorse all of the recommendations of the civil grand jury and we thank them for the work that goes into the report of the grand jury. we have a tremendous respect for chief alan nans and ranch director dan prince. we urge increase funding for law cabin ranch and for the juvenile department as a whole. as a former civil grand juror i would like to address a comment made by another speaker. the civil grand jury does have subpoena power and generally city departments s employees are corporate but with he have used our power in cases where it has been needed. >> anyone else who would like to speak on this item. this is

an appropriate item if there's any other members of the civil grand jury that like to speak. you have two minutes. no. okay. public comment is still open. >> i'll the secretary of the juvenile justice committee and we want to thank everyone who came to look into the law cabin ranch. what's important here is everyone is in agree znswer about the improvement we want to make. we have to focus on what the needs need in terms of counseling and after care and health. i think the tracking system will help everyone with these programs. its important that we will get the infrastructure and notice the ranch can be maintained in a way that will contribute to the self worth of these individuals. also we would really like to thank the partnership that we have with

chief nance. he has been a wonderful addition to our team. the youth enjoys him and he's been open to all of our recommendations. so thank you very much. >> great. thank you. seeing there's no other members of the public that like to comment. public comment is closed. and so now we need to -- we have three findings and three recommendations that we need to respond to. supervisor tang. >> welcome new chief and his new role. i did have the privilege of visiting law cabin ranch so i got to see it firsthand. it was incredible. with that i'd like to recommend that for finding 3.1 that the board of supervisors and superior court agree with that

finding. >> okay. four finding 3.2 agree in part and disagree in part since there's a needs assessment that is scheduled coming up and also the master plan is funded for the 2014-2015 budget. >> okay. >> finding number 4 the board of supervisors agrees with that one. our recommendation number three, partially implemented. recommendation 4.1 implemented. and recommendation 4.2 will be implemented. i'm sorry, recommendation 4.2 will be further analysis. >> i apologize. >> did you get that. i want to make sure you got 4.2. >> yes. >> okay. recommendation 3, i

think under the state requirements it has to be implemented or has not been implemented. >> the answer, we cannot -- the response cannot be partially implemented. q. that's not one of the choices. >> who could be said will be implemented. it has not been implemented but it will be reviewed during the budget review. perhaps it will be -- okay. the recommending requires further analysis and the date could be -- within six months so it would be a hearing prior to budget are view within six months. >> i think we can live with that. >> so for -- just to clarify for recommendation number three we recommend further analysis and we will revisit it in six months.

>> correct. >> okay. so i mean i want to clarify there's no way for us to revisit this during the budget proceedings? >> you have to -- unfortunately the state rules requires six months. >> okay. then after six months then we can put -- that puts us right before the beginning of the budget cycle. >> it's six months from the publication. thank you. did you have a comment? >> very quickly. tony from the mayor's office. another option would be to say that the board of supervisors won't implement because they're the policy body but they void implementation from the mayor and the associated department so if you don't want to hold another hearing that is another option. >> we're going to hold another hearing on it. thank you.

thank you for that suggestion. so we will -- may i have a motion for this. >> i would like to make a motion to adopt those updates to this resolution. all right. >> we're sticking with further analysis. >> we're sticking with further analysis for six months. and a motion has been made and seconded and this motion passes. >> thank you very much. madam clerk are there any other items on the agenda. >> that concludes our business for today. >> okay, my friends, i'll see you the next one. this meeting is adjourned.

may we all rise for the pledge of allegiance. >> pledge of allegiance. mr. president, i would like to call roll. president mazzucco, present, vice-president turman, present, commissioner marshall

issen route. commissioner dejesus, commissioner chan, kingsley, commissioner we have a quorum. >> welcome to the san francisco police commission meeting. please call line item no. 1. >> the clerk: general public comment. the public is now welcome to address the commission on items that do not appear on the agenda but matters that pertain to the commission. on the police commission rules of order, during public comment personnel nor commissioners are required to respond to questions presented by the public, but may provide a brief response.

personnel should refrain from entering into any debate during public speakers. please limit your comments to 3 minutes. >> good evening, miss brown.

>> there was a young man and his mother -- i don't have the audio so i can't really explain it to you. this is another mother in our building circle, her son was murdered. this is my son. he was murdered. that's

him laying on the table dead. these are all the young men that have been murdered in san francisco, unsolved homicides. as you can see these are areas where young men and women have been murdered that have been laying on the street and their blood running down in the gutter and their months are -- mothers are trying to claim them but they can't get passed the police line. these are mothers that have been protesting through the years. this is a project complex where young men are being murdered. these are all the young men that have been murdered. including that one, that's me standing over my son. again.

these are all young men that have been murdered and still no closure. no justice. i was just here. i gave all the names of the people that shot my son. if there is no witnesses, where did the names come from? those are the names of the people that killed my son. i will just continue to come here and bring this up so that i can have some closure because i have no closure. thank you. >> miss brown, thank you. you can come here as much as you want every week. we are more than willing to hear this. we are both hoping and praying for your son that this case gets solved. i know the chief is working on it. he works on it.

you have been here every week for memory of your son. please don't apologize. please come every week and we'll do everything we can. next speaker? members of the audience and commissioners, good evening. for the record my name is emilio lawrence. i have spoken many times in the past. i want to talk tonight about the special police have done a little research. i don't know what's happened over the next number of years, 1995, 1999, there used to be about 450 special police. when the sfpd

had about 1200 police officers. all of a sudden that number has shrunk to 25 or 28. the pay roll of the sfpd has come to some million today. every police department on the peninsula have switched off to the sheriff's department including oakland which is down to 200 officers. the main professor: is payroll. due to searching i found out the average federal policemen makes about $55,000 a year. but the sfpd they start at 80 to $90,000 a year and by the end of the year they are making $140,000 with over time. as

payroll and pensions explode particularly with the police union. we have yet to collect one dime from the president of the police officers association who owes the city $650,000. the police have not done anything to collect that money. police are making $700,000 a year doing a job that is three times the pay of the president of the united states between 1992 and the year 2000. and this commission has done nothing about that. the civil grand jury report of 2009 says there is two unions that are going to take the city into bankruptcy by the year 2019. that's the farmers union and the police union. there will be no money to pay the pensions and

salaries at the same time to pay the payroll of the city and county of san francisco. these aren't facts that i made up. these are grand jury investigative reporting. i bring it to your attention because last couple weeks ago the president of this commission volunteered to help the san francisco special police, and if you really want to help them expand them to about 200-300 and get them back to where they were in 1990. >> thank you, next speaker, please. >> good evening, good to see you again. doing okay? >> oh, well, probably more like no. i was a victim of a crime tuesday. the police came out. i showed them the video of the

crime and they made plenty of excuses for the victim. i'm wondering if i can, if you can send me information as to who i go to when i'm a victim of a crime and i want it reported. i want somebody held accountable. >> we'll take care of that right now. >> the other two is i was listening to the npr and they were talking about the suicide of the police department. hopefully you are working with that. the other thing i'm thinking about is that officer who pulled the people out of that plane, he breathed a lot of smoke and stuff and he's probably got as as asbestos in his lungs and i'm concerned about what happens 5 years from now. moving on, i'm going to play the rest of this audio. i played only half of it. i'm

just hoping that you don't excuse this officer of threatening me with violence and involuntary hold and threatening to make-up evidence or whatever because they were angry. so -- i will play it later. i'm running out of time.

[audio recording] i just feel like i'm just trying to be civil and the violence just

continuously being treated hostile. >> you have been very civil. the first matter deputy chief is here and a member of the occ is already handling the other matter. but maybe you want to talk to mr. ford. >> who do i talk to? >> he's right there. >> any other comment? public comment is closed. next item. >> review of recent activities. >> good evening commissioners, i want to talk about the starting pay for police officers is $80,000. the rest of the numbers spoken to, i don't know where they came from. they are not accurate. i will leave it at that. it's been busy, although the

department still continues to deal with homicides, a 40 percent reduction from last year. 25 percent reduction in gun violence. we did suffer two homicides since our last meeting. on thursday september 19th, officer responded to multiple shots fired at 22 arkansas, located two victims that had been shot. the male victim passed from his injuries. the female will survive. officers have some leads and actively working on those and some have been taken out of county. the second homicide occurred on the 24th, the night before last at bright and randolph street. you may have seen this on the news. we have some good video. we put it out. other investigative leads were followed and we actually

arrested this suspect with more firearms last night without incident and we'll have further development because there is more interviews needed to be done. it was a great job by the officers of taraval, the responding officers with the mta and some of the forensic work done by csi. it was very good. also there was an arson arrest made and there was another arrest of note where officers arrested another person for incidental offense and checking his cellphone discovered videos of pit bull breeding and we were able to identify the parties in that through some community help and two of the three suspects are in custody with a felony warrant out for the third suspect. that sends a

pretty clear message on how we feel about fighting dogs. then there was an arson back on september 11th. it's been a while. that suspect was taken into custody because sometimes those turn into serial things. besides being down officers, they are at the right place. although 123 officers retired. there is about half that will attend the temple. we'll be graduating an academy class in the morning. we like to do the whole circle of life thing. this is a movie. as the younger officers come in, the 238 recruit class, captain moez ar

can't get them in here fast enough. also it's going to be domestic violence month beginning on october 1st. we have reissued our, there is no excuse for domestic violence bumper stickers. and we'll continue to work on the dgo. there is a meeting tomorrow with beverly upton to try to further it. we've updated our sitting general order and advocates thought there should be a standing order. we continue to work with the kids in the program and there is a heroes breakfast where matt and steve will be recognized and mta who saved the elderly lady. the little

one and the elderly lady that got saved. it's all good. we can't get the new officers in fast enough. i continue to urge the public to not use your cellphone in traffic. if you can pull off to the side like the old phone booths, is the way to go. if we can be smart with the cell phones we reduce robberies. apple 5 and galaxy has activation locks that can prevent theft proof. with that, i will hand it over to sergeant wair and where we are with the hiring process. >> good evening. if i may i

will just introduce sergeant walter who is part of the investigation process and david johnson who also assist with the hiring. without their help many of our efforts wouldn't be possible. tonight i will be presenting information regarding our hiring process and data associated with fiscal year 2012-2013 and fiscal year 2013-2014. the process begins when a candidate submits an application to the department of human resources. at that point the candidate is submitted into a written exam, an oral test and written test. at that point successful candidates who participate in that examination process will complete and submit