and cite several vehicles in violation. we'll get a to a better staffing level and two is to do what i've always wanted to do it's saturation. we've tested it and it's been done in the past. we've in our public works areas it's very difficult to handle certain areas that are lagged where you have to chalk the tire and come back whatever the time was. with a saturation we can put people in more areas whether their complaint driven or a transit area and do a different area each day. so when we hire the next batch

which is 26 pc o hopefully by the end of this year by january 1st, we'll be back up to where we were in january of this year we'll again, that process of having folks got out and professionalism saturation on problem areas. i don't want you to think we're selectively picking certain areas or areas that we're enforcing we want to be fair we want to be impartial. although if you look at those numbers it's hard to not draw that conclusion. and i think in the end the mta is very good at the doing parking enforcement with they enforce a certain impact of the law. but i personally think a lot of

folks agree that parking is one of the areas it's harder to enforce could use more attention >> and i agree with you. >> thank you. >> continue with my presentation with a few more slides. this is the breakdown of the citations vs. downtown and this is parking meters one and 2 which include south of market and the financial district and broadway. in terms of streets mission street is our number one street by sheer nature it would be the heaviest transit routes so it's a priority that our agency anyway's there are no double parking. and streets like hate and chet

north nut and that's for our transit line. we looked at corridors like church and 16th and 18th and third street their less than one citation for day in a typical year in those corridors. so what are the challenges? i think we've touched on a lot of these but if the loading happens all at once everyone is there so double parking ensues. sometimes, we try to provide parking zones but if one is occupied by a large vehicle in parking a large truck is sometimes challenging. and particle deliveries are becoming a conversation item themselves as the internet takes

off people are using the internet and businesses are asking for particles to be picked up. those these companies value speed so they may double park in front of a loading space that's available and their obviously in places like residential areas or the one distance f that - business that gets the one delivery a day. finally there's some streets that have no parking sprays. and as we're looking at the loading you situation and there's

there's no accomodation of paying for deliveries we have to balance. that - at the same time, we're trying to not put two. yellow zones and the most extreme is the tow waterways they're seen as a more extreme solution and finally we're trying to balance the need for commerce in san francisco to keep is a vibrant healthy community >> i have one question to get a ticket for an any infraction you've got to be observed by the law enforcement officer.

there's a personal observation here by the pc o >> for double parking you have to be present. >> 2450 one area where we see a - we see it frequently with cabs they don't bother to pull over to the curb when we can. there are times when cabs can pull over but they don't bother and if - could someone call and report that cab driver to the mta the way you would other violation it's not appropriate for them to be 48-hour period to pull over >> they can but we have to be present to get a visual. what should happen if it happens frequently we'll reach it out to

the cab company >> for example, if the cab company violates any rules you can call the cab company. so if you have a cab driver not getting reports of pulling in >> we'll handle that but it can't be verified by our staff. i encourage members of the public to tell you if there's double parking problems aaron schools call 311 and maybe we can investigate other measures. but if you feel a taxi driver has acted inappropriating call 311 >> president chiu. >> first of all, i want to thank the chair for calling this

hearing i believe there is a do i believe parking issue. they block muni buses and i see private cars doing that. i appreciate that and i think in some of our denser neighborhoods it happens. my question is your currency addressing that situation but what are our recommendations and another thing do you think we should increasing parking fines or other ways to that we do enforcement are there awareness

groups we can get involved in. i was hoping during the presentation there were recommendations of what steps we can take >> certainly i can spoke on the enforcement side. a couple of things one of the items is the saturations identify the areas that are problematic and begin to work on those areas. i think another piece to that probably would be to - well, certainly to look internally at our own staff and if we need to move more people into the general rp v to handle the double parking we'll do that that's an assessment we're taking on >> i can tell you in my

district every commercial corridor particularly during the rush hours have serious double parking areas whether it's columbus or north beach we see double parking issues at the time. my guess is your staff knows that not really sure how that will help move it forward but happy to provide that information to you. on the staffing issues could you give us a timeframe. is your department undergoing whether or not you're open missing our resources >> yes. we're looking at how things are structured today with the now a health insurance company of 26 additional we'll be back like we were in january. we handle almost 2 hundred events a year and this is

outside of the citation issuance it's pedestrian and vehicular managing events since the merits cup and chinese new years eve. you name it we manage the traffic and safety and it takes effort to do that. it's not an excuse but we're spreading spreading our staff thin >> once we're back like we were no january i'll have more resources. as is evaluation goes we do have lawful initiatives flaw

particularly around transit routes we're looking at the orders to see what we can do to make the entire listen to move better >> although if there's no enforcement or limited enforcement then you can have all the parking management in the word and not achieve the effect. >> yes. we made a video about the enforcement on chinatown although they had strict parking rules they weren't enforced. so it's our belief that the enforcement and parking goals go hand in hand >> has the mta the thin staffing of the parking control officers is that an intentional decision by the mta that is i

don't understand why the parking lot officers it certainly a benefit to the city not to have over the top enforcement but to symhave consistency is that a choose the agency made? >> thank you. i'm the director of security and a enforcement for the sfmta. certainly it's not american people intentional thing. much like with the police department staffing we have attrition and we have to keep up with the attrition. the city hires not at light speed as you know. we try to keep up with attrition. we hired 27 pc os back in january of last year but now through attrition we're at square one. i want to say that i don't think

that you can because the enforcement or you're saying a lack of enforcement sole on the number of citations issued. simply base a citation isn't issued they're not addressing double parking. they hit this horn and in many instances the citation is a last resort. secondly to echo what cameron said pc os do things other than write tickets. our parking control staff is responsible for all of the major events in the city as far as traffic management and a emergencies such as is accident at golf and pine. we deployed many of our staff.

because of the many things and the many changes that our parking control officers have everyday >> it's important to see what the optimal parking issue. we had an event there or an accident there therefore we have to have so many pc these. i get frustrated when we are here from the police department oh, we had to deal with pride or pink saturday and so they've poodle in issues all over so the issues have to be address. i hope that mta will do that but

beyond the optimal staffing aside it's also as i mentioned earlier it's about prioritization. at least there's a preparation that the pc os will go out for things like not curbing your wheels but you have double packers who aremanual traffic flow and nothing happens. so i think sort of a bit of frustration >> you're not going to get an agreement from me supervisor wiener. i want to think that my pc os are addressing the more important problems. and it certainly that cameron is suggesting in our comploiment

strategies as well >> supervisor breed do you have a question. >> yeah. i wanted to know on the slide number 20 the number of citations that have long been issued are those only issued by mta and don't include sfpd? >> those are mta only no p.d. you don't have the information >> yes. i can pull that. i don't think it's not many it's pretty small but i'll get them to you >> i know this is a hearing on double parking and i wanted a broader picture to understand what the issues are. also i don't think i've heard in comments about people who were

disabled and people who are getting dropped off by family members and other folks. specifically there have long been challenges in the fair okay area with double parking and dropping members of people who are disabled how can that factor into our presentation? >> certainly in the pc o comes upon a vehicle where they're dropping off a disabled individual we'll allow them to do that until they're done. we'll let them know but we'll particularly let them know and do i believe park just to finish the dropping off the individual >> okay. but in terms of in

comparison with those situations vs. the loading and unloading situation those are a small number. >> yes. they are. >> okay. i think we have a real challenge here and we all see it everyday whether we're riding our bikes or driving there are double parking happens and situations with tour and deliveries and situations of abuse where there's a parking space available and yesterday, i experienced a car on fell street and clearly fell street is like a freeway and there was the ability to pull to the side but they courthouses to stop and double park. that's an bylaw abuse but it helps to change the culture in san francisco is about clear conversation but getting the

message out in terms of the responsible behavior and tour buses and so forth enforcement is important but enforcement alone is not going to solve what our problems are long-term. we have folks who are trying to get places but we also have just the challenges of the fact that we also go to those restaurants we reexpect our products to be there they don't appear in those falls. we're not realistically going to bush be able to rely on mta capacity. oftentimes at any time easy to move fairly quickly in terms of

cars that are parked. so from the mta areas around the aforementioned that are challenging but it's a balance so it can't be aggressive enforcement when theirs in some instances no clear location to really or even park in a loading zone to even load or unload and so forth. so it's a larger conversation in making sure that sfpd has their capacity for clear situations of abuse of. i was one of the victims of those parking tickets where as far as i'm concerned it was not a hill it was just a little bit of a small incline and i think that's over the top. so if we're going to really try

to effecting make changes in the city what can happen if someone didn't curb their wheels there's no established case of the incline has to be a certain way. there is some areas it's all about striking a balance in terms of enforcement and highway we develop a message in the city. we have a huge challenge. we're building more housing and building more stores and places where people are shopping so folks are all over this city. we're increasing the numbers of people who live and work here but we have to understand that folks are getting around whether it's small vehicles or tours on their bikes or people who are trying to get to work on their

bikes we've got to figure out a better way to make sure that we define where people go on the streets or when their loading and unloading and finally starting to work on the behavior part and the clear conversation is key to making the changes >> thank you so, now i'd like to call of commander lee from the police department to talk about the police department approach to double parking. >> good afternoon, supervisors. >> commander police with san francisco p.d. assigned tomato mount. i want to let you and the public know we're looking the issuance of citation for per diem the

flow of traffic it's a movie vision on your driver's license. in many instances those are for the people who are sitting in their cars eating lunch and people have to go around them and so forth. aisle it's not the primary issuance for the police department but those are processed by mta and i suspect those numbers are relatively small then by the parking control officers. the vehicle code allows for discretion of traffic officers also for argue parking control

officers. so someone whose dropping off their mother or conglomerate, you know, discretion would dictate that you law that process to take place and support them in some form of fashion. it's the individuals who are blocking in a malicious way we see an increase downtown but in the mission street and the areas in the sunset where you have commercial areas and it's to the point where in many instances our officers will drive through and 15 vehicles are double-parked so you try to be more educational in terms of lester people who are waiting for someone. that's the role that our

department plays. it's educational and awareness building we're trying to engage >> thank you questions for commander ali. >> thank you very much commander. >> thank you. >> so, now we are going to go to regeography from the office of small business and we'll open up for public comment. >> welcome. >> thank you chair weaning and good afternoon. supervisor chu and breed. so i'm here to identify some issues and then perhaps put forward a few recommendations of

what we can do moving forward. when supervisor wiener introduced the hearing not two long before that the small business commission talked to the sfmta around some upcoming developments in our neighborhood commercial corridors and i have the example today with polk street base it's the one further along with the development of bike plans. and so one of the things that was discussed with sfmta it was around deliveries. and so i just wanted to note that in our design plans when we're talking about our neighborhood commercial districts one we appreciate what the sfmta is trying to do in

terms of balancing all the needs of the use through our cars, through our buses and transit and bicycles and delivery vehicles and what we're trying - and balance that need in our - on our streets. though we have some southerners around the prioritytion in our district. this is an example of a proposed with the liveable streets on polk street between california and the bike lane on the west side of the street is proposed to to be a raised bike lane. our concern is are we prioritizing the vehicle use around the commercial activities

and the easy and ability to the businesses getting they're deliveries or are we designing a system to dictate deliveries are going to have to double park. some of those streets may not be wide enough to handle all the needs. and so just again kind of for our concern is we don't see the need for commerce to happen. are we going to be able to facilitate those needs. what are our priorities for our buses is it a priority for businesses to be able to get is

it a propriety to have bicycle paths and we may not be able to facilitate all of those. so i'm not much has been said around the deliveries but one of the things you know that comes to my mind of a tool we may use i know there's federal regulation that obviously delivery vehicles are not using the delivery zones and their you deliveries are at the top of the block and they park at the bottom. i you know that sfmta has had conversations about applying those conversations to our loading zone vehic