it a propriety to have bicycle paths and we may not be able to facilitate all of those. so i'm not much has been said around the deliveries but one of the things you know that comes to my mind of a tool we may use i know there's federal regulation that obviously delivery vehicles are not using the delivery zones and their you deliveries are at the top of the block and they park at the bottom. i you know that sfmta has had conversations about applying those conversations to our loading zone vehicles are

dealing with perhaps we can help our delivery vehicles know when the spaces are available and use them. the other element i think that it would be good to bring together our delivery groups and the sfmta to work on those issues. especially going into design plans where we have deliverable street plans developed. so i think i'm going to leave it there. i think our - the commission and our office we want to be part of the solution. i think businesses want to be part of the solution but he need to make sure we're designing the streets based on the priorities of what their initialing

developed for and that's for business to happen >> thank you, president chiu. >> thank you i don't except we were going to talk about the street project today. first of all, this is you probably know the polk street improvement project has involved a significant set of confidence with many, many industries around polk street there's been dozens of meetings really trying to balance the needs of all the stakeholders. and so it's is it fair to say no one is happy about what's been recently proposed for polk street but what the mta is

trying to do is calibrate the interests on polk street. the gentleman just provided us the excuse me. africa down one street by north of california all the way down to fillmore street was changed at the request of the many merchants who wanted to see all the needs of the businesses in this area. that's appropriate because we heard from the merchants as well as the residents but in the areas south of california street i think there are two things try about that position. first and foremothering month a much higher number of cycling and injuries in that area is in that corridor and secondly, we

doesn't hair the same type of information from merchants and residents on polk street. i i don't think anyone is satisfied where it end up but i wanted to thank the mta for trying to balance the need and there's still ongoing meetings. this is probably the first time that my staff and i have spent a lot of time on this >> i don't want to call out polk street. the one thing we have a printed document but there are other areas where a similar concepts are being proposed. it's meant to be an example. i think from the cities prospective the merchants

shouldn't have to go and beg for how deliveries are going to be considered and our liveable streets designed. we need to understand what is happening on our neighborhood corridors. they're not as wide as admission street or some of the streets south of market. so the constraint of the narrowness - there's improvement to be made in terms of how we do our priorities and goals. and that perhaps, you know, bicycle lanes may not be in this form or fashion be always appropriate in a commercial corridor and if we need dedicated bike lanes maybe there's another street. i think it's important to know

where we're started from there was a initiative from mta to have a bicycle lane on this street. i think from the prospective of merchants we're certainly taking into account on the one hand i appreciate that the merchants shouldn't be begging for the opportunity to earn their livelihood but i hear from the cyclists. i've had many meetings and we will continue to have this conversation. i want to put a little bit of context on that i also wanted to

mention my apologizes because this hearing is lasting a little bit longer than i intended to go but we'll move those dialogues with respect to the concerns that businesses have and we'll all occupy the streets are very scarce resources that works for everyone >> you made a comment a certain about having a higher priority in terms of double parking enforcement and the effects of businesses deliveries and i understand the small businesses needs the deliveries but it shouldn't be a choice

between, you know, i'm not saying we're going to have officers stations around the city for double parking but it's not acceptable to have such little enforcement in some areas by all sorts of vehicles. and people have the minimal fear they're not going to get a ticket they won't care. its about how delivery trucks could pull in and they're not bothering to double park all the way over. i had a situation when i was in a church and there was a delivery truck and there was it was pulled impartial over but not far enough over and shut

down the street and the radio dispatcher road it in but we were there for 15 to 20 minutes. i went in and searched down the guy and told him to move his vehicle and no one was ever sent out to do anything. sometimes, it's the way people do things and it's the total lack of enforcement. you look at the entire castro roadway. approximately 233 hundred and 50 tickets a year that's one ticket per day for a multiple commercial stretch. i know there's a lot of double parking and on the average one

ticket is a given out everyday. and there are also a citation issued in one area every other day. so it's one thing to say and i agree with you, you don't want to have such a problem where businesses can't do business but in some areas where there is major problems >> i think we're in agreement that enforcement needs to happen. and if vehicles are not utilizing the yellow zones then questioning if we need to send out the message then we will. again, we're starting to have perhaps we can work with the sfmta to work with the merchant.

they know who the delivery folks are to figure out l are there better places to have loading zones on the block. i think that has supervisor breed said in terms of developing awareness and bringing everyone together to solve this >> with that, i want to thank all the departments. we'll open up for public comment. i have only one card. from the san francisco bike coalition and other folks if i want to fill out a card coming over here and we'll take you in order >> i'm eric i'm the design manager for the bicycle coalition. i want to thank you for holdings

this hearing. i think you said you noticed a lot of the bike lanes were blocked >> it was till when we had the bike coalition and we is constantly had to swerve into traffic but go ahead. >> thank you for holding this meeting on this serious issue. today i'd like to urge you to continue to urge city staff to look at this finest and continue to push for enforcement in the bike lanes it's a hazard like making did care we get containments weekly from our membership. so those are some areas in need

for enforcement. i didn't see them on the areas that are highly picketed. san francisco commission asks for areas like market and okay to provide people on bike safety and making life easier whether you're in o a car or on a bike. and we know that people feel safer in bike lanes and the city has a goal of 20 percent ridership so the safety it is more people will be riding and thank you for your attention on this important issue >> sir, were you next. >> you inspired me.

beyond the experience i had the experience in the london k we proposed the specialized delivery for xhejd areas. for early morning deliveries it was redistributed by beneficiaries. we discussed market and octavia and other areas of the city lost somewhere in the great mass but the problem is worse by businesses who want to expand their clientele at the

sidewalks. with those two proposals thank you very much for raising the issue >> thank you. >> hi. i'm steven i'm with the mrntd and i own a business on polk street. i know this is an issue on double parking but i think you can expand this proposal throughout the city. they had parking and delivery they thought b about that polk street was that lanes at one time so trucks could double park they'd stay on the two-lane part of the street and that was removed l about 15 years ago to accommodate some bicycle lanes. polk street is one of the

highest double parking areas. now to change polk street we've added as supervisor chu said we've had many meetings by when the plan come out there was no provision for yellow zones on the side of the street we permitted bike lanes no yellow zones. and the mta said oh, we'll put them up the side street and i don't think they're planning on that. most of us think about deliveries of ups trucks. a store like mine i make deliveries we have to go to a street like knob hill and double park.

i do have a commercial vehicle and to make a delivery you have to go up 3 stories it's hard to tell you're doing active delivery but you are. it's a complex issue. this seem like we have to go berg at the time and we're not considered as part of the raising the fines are making it harder for us to do we get fined more and it costs more and our merchandise goes up and who pays for it but the customer >> thank you very much. reverend. i just want to hope in front of

you that knowing san francisco what i see is a hostility toward the faith community and every time by mta. i hope this attention is not a witch-hunt for church services on sunday because of the lack of parking there has to be some double parking. i'm hoping it doesn't turn into that more than it doesn't anything else. i know that it's okay for some people to impede traffic but i hope you'll keep attention on this and don't allow it to violate us on sunday.

thank you very much >> any additional public comment. seeing none, public comment is closed >> thank you. i want to ask mta a followup question about the reverend concern. has about been any enforcement in those particular areas where on sunday some congregations double park and have traditionally double-parked for many, many years? >> there has not been supervisor. it's a for lack of a better word an issue and a parking concern that has been a long part of san francisco's history. we're not actively pressuring the faith community for double parking >> thank you.

>> and memoranda parking you might call it is not limited to churches and synagogues on delores street. i'm pretty confident. anyway, thank you supervisor breed >> i want to thank everybody for participating and my request to the mta agency t is to take an internal look at how the parking is done and again, i'm advocating we're not priority tiger's downtown those areas of market is heavy xhenld and i agree with the agree. but i think we are going in the

opposite way but the mta to give some consideration on how we might maybe make the enforcement a little bit more consistent so people have a thought in their headwall if i double park i might get a ticket. in and of itself that will reduce double parking >> so thank you everyone and could i get a motion to continue this to those to the call of the chair. okay without objection >> madam clerk, call item number 4. >> is the hearing to begin the gary underpass and in the western fillmore community.

>> and supervisor breed requested this hearing. >> thank you, thank you supervisor wiener for allowing us to host this hearing. thank you to all the city staff for the hard work. supervisor mar and i called this to begin the planning and redesign of scott and particularly the underpass. built in 19 61 it's a legacy of the freeway that never got completed and the agency thought to divide the japanese and african-american community. as the gary brt project

progresses we can reenvision this stretch of gary boulevard. it includes an evaluation of filling in the underpass and it may continue with the corridors design. it will make the 38 brt safer for more users and now is the time to act and implore this as a possibility. growing up i remember crossing the 8 lanes of traffic and, of course, at that time, i could run faster but it scares me to think about the people who cross this boulevard. so to me this the transit a buff indication project and a social reunions of our communities

project as well. it's very complex and i know there will be a lot of different departments included the mta and planning department who will more than likely take the lead on the land use developments. the department of public works will help and the puc has a significant project in the area. it's a complex project. for the rec and park it's a chance to improve hampton and for the community this is really an opportunity at long last to make gary safer and to improve the bus lines. to bring japan it up and western edition together to turn a

eyesore into a wonderful area not a drub place for those who are traveling east and west. we're going to create a land use when is a collaboration between the agencies. i want to analysis the way to e refurnish it and in terms of the supporting the neighborhood and to discuss how to develop the land use division and lay the ground work for the fund resources. once we've done this i'm hoping we can identify those supporting agencies that can be potential leads for this project. i think supervisor mar and i

want to consider a now a citizens advisory committee to lead this community based process. thank you all for being here i think we'll start off with joshua and steve from the planning department who can offer some technologies for the future >> if i leave to the restroom we'll no longer have a qualm can we take a brief recess like 45 minutes. >> 45 minutes? >> 45 seconds. i'm sorry supervisor breed was not happy when i said