law enforcement officer. there's a personal observation here by the pc o >> for double parking you have to be present. >> 2450 one area where we see a - we see it frequently with cabs they don't bother to pull over to the curb when we can. there are times when cabs can pull over but they don't bother and if - could someone call and report that cab driver to the mta the way you would other violation it's not appropriate for them to be 48-hour period to pull over >> they can but we have to be present to get a visual. what should happen if it happens

frequently we'll reach it out to the cab company >> for example, if the cab company violates any rules you can call the cab company. so if you have a cab driver not getting reports of pulling in >> we'll handle that but it can't be verified by our staff. i encourage members of the public to tell you if there's double parking problems aaron schools call 311 and maybe we can investigate other measures. but if you feel a taxi driver has acted inappropriating call 311 >> president chiu.

>> first of all, i want to thank the chair for calling this hearing i believe there is a do i believe parking issue. they block muni buses and i see private cars doing that. i appreciate that and i think in some of our denser neighborhoods it happens. my question is your currency addressing that situation but what are our recommendations and another thing do you think we should increasing parking fines or other ways to that we do

enforcement are there awareness groups we can get involved in. i was hoping during the presentation there were recommendations of what steps we can take >> certainly i can spoke on the enforcement side. a couple of things one of the items is the saturations identify the areas that are problematic and begin to work on those areas. i think another piece to that probably would be to - well, certainly to look internally at our own staff and if we need to move more people into the general rp v to handle the double parking we'll do that that's an assessment we're

taking on >> i can tell you in my district every commercial corridor particularly during the rush hours have serious double parking areas whether it's columbus or north beach we see double parking issues at the time. my guess is your staff knows that not really sure how that will help move it forward but happy to provide that information to you. on the staffing issues could you give us a timeframe. is your department undergoing whether or not you're open missing our resources >> yes. we're looking at how things are structured today with the now a health insurance company of 26 additional we'll be back like we were in january.

we handle almost 2 hundred events a year and this is outside of the citation issuance it's pedestrian and vehicular managing events since the merits cup and chinese new years eve. you name it we manage the traffic and safety and it takes effort to do that. it's not an excuse but we're spreading spreading our staff thin >> once we're back like we were no january i'll have more resources. as is evaluation goes we do have

lawful initiatives flaw particularly around transit routes we're looking at the orders to see what we can do to make the entire listen to move better >> although if there's no enforcement or limited enforcement then you can have all the parking management in the word and not achieve the effect. >> yes. we made a video about the enforcement on chinatown although they had strict parking rules they weren't enforced. so it's our belief that the enforcement and parking goals go hand in hand >> has the mta the thin staffing of the parking control officers is that an intentional

decision by the mta that is i don't understand why the parking lot officers it certainly a benefit to the city not to have over the top enforcement but to symhave consistency is that a choose the agency made? >> thank you. i'm the director of security and a enforcement for the sfmta. certainly it's not american people intentional thing. much like with the police department staffing we have attrition and we have to keep up with the attrition. the city hires not at light speed as you know. we try to keep up with attrition. we hired 27 pc os back in january of last year but now through attrition we're at

square one. i want to say that i don't think that you can because the enforcement or you're saying a lack of enforcement sole on the number of citations issued. simply base a citation isn't issued they're not addressing double parking. they hit this horn and in many instances the citation is a last resort. secondly to echo what cameron said pc os do things other than write tickets. our parking control staff is responsible for all of the major events in the city as far as traffic management and a emergencies such as is accident

at golf and pine. we deployed many of our staff. because of the many things and the many changes that our parking control officers have everyday >> it's important to see what the optimal parking issue. we had an event there or an accident there therefore we have to have so many pc these. i get frustrated when we are here from the police department oh, we had to deal with pride or pink saturday and so they've poodle in issues all over so the issues have to be address.

i hope that mta will do that but beyond the optimal staffing aside it's also as i mentioned earlier it's about prioritization. at least there's a preparation that the pc os will go out for things like not curbing your wheels but you have double packers who aremanual traffic flow and nothing happens. so i think sort of a bit of frustration >> you're not going to get an agreement from me supervisor wiener. i want to think that my pc os are addressing the more important problems. and it certainly that cameron is

suggesting in our comploiment strategies as well >> supervisor breed do you have a question. >> yeah. i wanted to know on the slide number 20 the number of citations that have long been issued are those only issued by mta and don't include sfpd? >> those are mta only no p.d. you don't have the information >> yes. i can pull that. i don't think it's not many it's pretty small but i'll get them to you >> i know this is a hearing on double parking and i wanted a broader picture to understand what the issues are. also i don't think i've heard in

comments about people who were disabled and people who are getting dropped off by family members and other folks. specifically there have long been challenges in the fair okay area with double parking and dropping members of people who are disabled how can that factor into our presentation? >> certainly in the pc o comes upon a vehicle where they're dropping off a disabled individual we'll allow them to do that until they're done. we'll let them know but we'll particularly let them know and do i believe park just to finish the dropping off the individual

>> okay. but in terms of in comparison with those situations vs. the loading and unloading situation those are a small number. >> yes. they are. >> okay. i think we have a real challenge here and we all see it everyday whether we're riding our bikes or driving there are double parking happens and situations with tour and deliveries and situations of abuse where there's a parking space available and yesterday, i experienced a car on fell street and clearly fell street is like a freeway and there was the ability to pull to the side but they courthouses to stop and double park. that's an bylaw abuse but it helps to change the culture in

san francisco is about clear conversation but getting the message out in terms of the responsible behavior and tour buses and so forth enforcement is important but enforcement alone is not going to solve what our problems are long-term. we have folks who are trying to get places but we also have just the challenges of the fact that we also go to those restaurants we reexpect our products to be there they don't appear in those falls. we're not realistically going to bush be able to rely on mta capacity. oftentimes at any time easy to

move fairly quickly in terms of cars that are parked. so from the mta areas around the aforementioned that are challenging but it's a balance so it can't be aggressive enforcement when theirs in some instances no clear location to really or even park in a loading zone to even load or unload and so forth. so it's a larger conversation in making sure that sfpd has their capacity for clear situations of abuse of. i was one of the victims of those parking tickets where as far as i'm concerned it was not a hill it was just a little bit of a small incline and i think that's over the top.

so if we're going to really try to effecting make changes in the city what can happen if someone didn't curb their wheels there's no established case of the incline has to be a certain way. there is some areas it's all about striking a balance in terms of enforcement and highway we develop a message in the city. we have a huge challenge. we're building more housing and building more stores and places where people are shopping so folks are all over this city. we're increasing the numbers of people who live and work here but we have to understand that folks are getting around whether it's small vehicles or tours on

their bikes or people who are trying to get to work on their bikes we've got to figure out a better way to make sure that we define where people go on the streets or when their loading and unloading and finally starting to work on the behavior part and the clear conversation is key to making the changes >> thank you so, now i'd like to call of commander lee from the police department to talk about the police department approach to double parking. >> good afternoon, supervisors. >> commander police with san francisco p.d. assigned tomato mount. i want to let you and the public know we're looking the issuance

of citation for per diem the flow of traffic it's a movie vision on your driver's license. in many instances those are for the people who are sitting in their cars eating lunch and people have to go around them and so forth. aisle it's not the primary issuance for the police department but those are processed by mta and i suspect those numbers are relatively small then by the parking control officers. the vehicle code allows for discretion of traffic officers

also for argue parking control officers. so someone whose dropping off their mother or conglomerate, you know, discretion would dictate that you law that process to take place and support them in some form of fashion. it's the individuals who are blocking in a malicious way we see an increase downtown but in the mission street and the areas in the sunset where you have commercial areas and it's to the point where in many instances our officers will drive through and 15 vehicles are double-parked so you try to be more educational in terms of lester people who are waiting for someone.

that's the role that our department plays. it's educational and awareness building we're trying to engage >> thank you questions for commander ali. >> thank you very much commander. >> thank you. >> so, now we are going to go to regeography from the office of small business and we'll open up for public comment. >> welcome. >> thank you chair weaning and good afternoon. supervisor chu and breed. so i'm here to identify some

issues and then perhaps put forward a few recommendations of what we can do moving forward. when supervisor wiener introduced the hearing not two long before that the small business commission talked to the sfmta around some upcoming developments in our neighborhood commercial corridors and i have the example today with polk street base it's the one further along with the development of bike plans. and so one of the things that was discussed with sfmta it was around deliveries. and so i just wanted to note that in our design plans when we're talking about our

neighborhood commercial districts one we appreciate what the sfmta is trying to do in terms of balancing all the needs of the use through our cars, through our buses and transit and bicycles and delivery vehicles and what we're trying - and balance that need in our - on our streets. though we have some southerners around the prioritytion in our district. this is an example of a proposed with the liveable streets on polk street between california and the bike lane on the west side of the street is proposed to to be a raised bike lane. our concern is are we

prioritizing the vehicle use around the commercial activities and the easy and ability to the businesses getting they're deliveries or are we designing a system to dictate deliveries are going to have to double park. some of those streets may not be wide enough to handle all the needs. and so just again kind of for our concern is we don't see the need for commerce to happen. are we going to be able to facilitate those needs. what are our priorities for our

buses is it a priority for businesses to be able to get is it a propriety to have bicycle paths and we may not be able to facilitate all of those. so i'm not much has been said around the deliveries but one of the things you know that comes to my mind of a tool we may use i know there's federal regulation that obviously delivery vehicles are not using the delivery zones and their you deliveries are at the top of the block and they park at the bottom. i you know that sfmta has had conversations about applying those conversations to our

loading zone vehicles are dealing with perhaps we can help our delivery vehicles know when the spaces are available and use them. the other element i think that it would be good to bring together our delivery groups and the sfmta to work on those issues. especially going into design plans where we have deliverable street plans developed. so i think i'm going to leave it there. i think our - the commission and our office we want to be part of the solution. i think businesses want to be part of the solution but he need to make sure we're designing the

streets based on the priorities of what their initialing developed for and that's for business to happen >> thank you, president chiu. >> thank you i don't except we were going to talk about the street project today. first of all, this is you probably know the polk street improvement project has involved a significant set of confidence with many, many industries around polk street there's been dozens of meetings really trying to balance the needs of all the stakeholders. and so it's is it fair to say no one is happy about what's been

recently proposed for polk street but what the mta is trying to do is calibrate the interests on polk street. the gentleman just provided us the excuse me. africa down one street by north of california all the way down to fillmore street was changed at the request of the many merchants who wanted to see all the needs of the businesses in this area. that's appropriate because we heard from the merchants as well as the residents but in the areas south of california street i think there are two things try about that position. first and foremothering month a much higher number of cycling

and injuries in that area is in that corridor and secondly, we doesn't hair the same type of information from merchants and residents on polk street. i i don't think anyone is satisfied where it end up but i wanted to thank the mta for trying to balance the need and there's still ongoing meetings. this is probably the first time that my staff and i have spent a lot of time on this >> i don't want to call out polk street. the one thing we have a printed document but there are other areas where a similar concepts are being proposed. it's meant to be an example. i think from the cities

prospective the merchants shouldn't have to go and beg for how deliveries are going to be considered and our liveable streets designed. we need to understand what is happening on our neighborhood corridors. they're not as wide as admission street or some of the streets south of market. so the constraint of the narrowness - there's improvement to be made in terms of how we do our priorities and goals. and that perhaps, you know, bicycle lanes may not be in this form or fashion be always appropriate in a commercial corridor and if we need

dedicated bike lanes maybe there's another street. i think it's important to know where we're started from there was a initiative from mta to have a bicycle lane on this street. i think from the prospective of merchants we're certainly taking into account on the one hand i appreciate that the merchants shouldn't be begging for the opportunity to earn their livelihood but i hear from the cyclists. i've had many meetings and we will continue to have this conversation. i