available important people. the answer we think is yes, but vote no on b and c if you really want to protect the northern waterfront please vote no on b and c otherwise we're going to have high riser that are in the spirit of san francisco >> thank you both unfortunately we're out of time. we hope this discussion was inform stiff for more information please san francisco protect without any doubt sf.org 1928 remember early voting is viable ♪ hi, i'm naomi ma con i'm here to

discuss proposition d on november filth. they spend more $23 million for drugs health care services laguna hospital and sf county jail. encourage he authorize outside companies to negotiate drug prices and prop d will reduce the prescription drugs that would set policy that the city continue to negotiate with the drug companies to reduce the costs and ask the state lovers to reduce the drug prices by 1/3rd if you vicinity you want to make it city policy to reduced the prescription drugs and i want the city to ask state

and federal representatives to sponsor legislation for drugs brings paid by government if you vote not. i'm here with the lady ms. cell we're joined by the former member of the president and on opponent to the measure. thank you for being here. i'd like to start with ms. kelly. why do you feel this proposition is so important. and a well, this is the first in the nation on drug pricing. this is a policy that will put san francisco in the forefront of fighting for lower priced drugs. it's very important we do that. i know for a fact a sister who has parkinson's and a friend who

has diabetes. sometimes, people have to decide between into custody and drugs. this allows tour at the to go on record to ask for fair pricing on drugs. to bargain for fair pricing on drugs the way the veterans administration does. it only applies to the money that the city pays for drugs. month drugs go to people with aid and to children and to a poor srnz and disabled people. this will allow. though have for money for the drugs those people need and not have to turn it away. that's all it's doing. it's a policy. and also will askor lovers in the city and our lovers in the state to work for this fair drug

prirgz within the state and within the national government and this is what we need to bring the ac a up and help that >> mr. faifrj. >> this is the right before his the roman order touched on that. what we need it money is needed for research. this particular dispute start over the pricing of t bolt which is an aids drug and it's cost it's put out by june lane scientific. people objected to the costs and on the other hand, the cost of the drugs went into the hundreds of million dollars that's a difficult problem and the city of san francisco has

been paying for this drug if this drug didn't exist there's many people who wouldn't be alive. we need the money for the groups that do the research. many drugs fail that are successful. just two days ago our pharmaceuticals opened $14.04 the next day it was down. $11 declined in one day 66 percent. it's a pear cancer drugs. that's typical are what happens. i site overlooking another one there was a suddenly drop back in agriculture those repeatedly happen. i have to compensate our research companies otherwise they're not going to be in the field and costs lives. this is the position of the house and a senate 33 they have

to encourage the companies in order to save lives. ms. kelly while this sound like a great change many people are reluctant to building they'll see a difference >> i really want to talk about would the opponent of this just said. i don't have the money to buy drugs myself. i also don't have the money to buy stock in drugs companies on let me just tell you something the ceo's make hundreds of millions of dollars. there's enough money for r&d. every year those companies are a profit and every year more people can't afford their medication. there's a difference between being very rich and ridiculously

rich. this gentleman says that congress wants the pharmacies so have the money and congress wants money from the pastes to keep returning for offices. they spend more money on politics and fighting against thienl that are spent on r&d. this is extremely important. this is going to help the people of san francisco are. f that work in every other country we're is only country that is gouged like that canada and france isn't mr. faulkner would you like to respond >> the truth is we have the best pharmaceutical companies in the world. a lot of companies lose a lot of

money but i can guarantee i our pharmaceuticals are going to take a lost. a lot of companies run into those problems and jill adjourn scientific nicole worked out well, they're new drugs is a combination of four different drugs they put together. i understand the aids foundation they want to cut prices on the other hand, they have the next drug to be developed they're to need money for it. if we cut back too much it's going to cost lives and result. we have the best medical establishment in the world if we want to cut down it's goes to cost lives. it's a vow judgment. adjust price has been

discussions and kissing restraining order the roman order sdutdz it but in this case, the drug companies need the kind of medical research we need. some use the fact to invade our patent and do cut rate versions of our drugs. if we didn't go ahead and do our medical research a lot of drugs won't exist and a lot of people would die a lot yearns. in the earlier 1 hundreds people live about 47 years old. i'm 4r50rgd to living to about 80. i've read a lot of cicero i'm not interested in him i'm interested in human beings.

the prices have gone up. when this gentleman said many people are doing to die many people are not i getting their medication and their dying. we're asking for fair prices not asking to take money away from r&d pr it's interesting when a drug company fails everybody feels so terrible i can see that you want them to succeed. and nobody faults the drug company. i've been a teacher for 40 years if the student fails they say their something wrong with me. there's something wrong where is the pharmaceutical companies if they can't keep their drug prices down and forego those

ohio salaries in order to save people. that's their job not just to make money and they can do that. 18 thousand people signed this ballot measure to get it on board. everybody is backing this measure. people who haven't spoken to each other in 20 years are backing this because this is the good thing for that the people of 70 >> mr. that infamous. i don't care whether the drug companies fail but i care that repel amelia reach gets interrupted. the futures of the company's i don't care about but i care about the net medical research which lives are riding on that's where i favor using the money. i put in the voters hand good

things to put money into and i listed thirty cancers companies and i urge you to donate to those companies. we need more medical research not less. there's a lot of hard choices but if you're trying to save a maximum number of lives the more medical research the bhert. i'd like to close the program with a few comments >> i donate to almost everyone medical nonprofit. i even what can for aids, for diabetes, for breast cancer envy sister a breast cancer survivor. i can important patrick's she's a parkinson's survivor but people are turned away from

cylinders they have to choose between their food and their drugs. we need, we need foe serve more people. we're not going to hurt the pharmaceutical industry we're asking them to give us for those people the children, the elderly, the disabled and those surviving from hiv aids a little help. i think they can do it and it would help them to be hell up >> at the. >> mr. faulkner. >> i've been an elected official i've seen many people with aids die. what happened is with modern medical research they're getting

positive results. money is needed for medical research. i hate to be a modern groperer but money it needed to save lives. in particular those who have hiv aids san francisco is well provided forever the federal government pays a lot of the costs. i want the drugs available to help people because i've known people will today of those awe flishgsdz my vaug is that i favor medical research promoted by every one >> thank you. we he hope this discussion has been informative for more information please invest sf elections.com remember it's available for voting from 5 to 8:00 p.m.

>> good evening and welcome to the october 23rd, 2013, meeting of the san francisco board appeals and the presiding