quarter of the calendar year because a great many of the finds and not finds but excuse me, the fees and stuff that are due annually will come in and there is always a big bump there and additionally, a lot of the late filings and everything, that happened during the election cycle which we are in now and the election in november and so the processing late fees and late fines will happen after the election is over. >> thank you. >> and i also wanted to echo the commissioner renne and thank the staff and you mr. saint croix for the hard work reflected in the report and not just in putting it together but the actual work that was accomplished in the last fiscal year, thank you. >> any public comment the executive director's report. >> commissioners, ray hartz, director of san francisco open government and i am only to comment on section 7 and 10 of

this report. the first section, number 7, discusses the filing of form 700. and some focus needs to be placed on the fact that the filing of such reports are done under the penalty of perjury, the city librarian failed to figure that out. and he also didn't seem to understand that finding such a statement is perjury, even when it is not done in front of the public official under oath. and i have to believe that someone as intelligent does not understand those matters and there must be many more city employees who do not understand, and potentially a lot of other were filing and complaints with the ftpc against the members. >> and it is the same as mr. herrera in similar amounts. >> in section ten is says that

due to the records involved. and it has been side tracked from the regular duties end quote, under the sunshine ordinance and the san francisco public records act. and responding to public records requests, they are among the regular duties of every city employees. this mistakingly represents this as something that they are being taken away from their duties. it is part of their duty and any city employee who is asked for a record is a requirement and part of their job duties to provide a job response. and putting this in a report saying that they are taken away from the regular duties it is simply a ploy and the record request to something and it is a legitimate legal request from

a citizen of san francisco. and the control and the supervision or a record and not getting it. and it is my own experience after chasing him for two solid years and going through the city attorney's office and a petition that the supervisor of records to continue to records and those were the very records used to find him in violation of the regulations. and i did not blame him. and i would lie about the existence which he did. and i even denied, answering whether they did exist or not, when they responded or the company requestor had a legal document saying that you should have it signed by the

respondent. >> agenda item 6, items for future meetings, do the commissioners have any suggestions as to items that they would like to see on the agenda for the meetings in november? or subsequent there to? >> mr. heart you are the only mefm of the public, do you have a suggestion or items that we should put on the agenda. >> i do, ray hartz, director of san francisco open government, i think that this body needs to acknowledge that in your charter it says that you are responsible to a degree for the sunshine ordinance and its implementation and enforcement. and yet in every single document, i see coming out of

this body, you just, you fail to address it at all. and in the civil grand jury report, the sleeping watch dog that was mentioned by the civil grand jury. and you simply dismissed that with the typical response to civil grand jury reports of thank you very much for all of the time that you put into this and how much that we appreciate all of this hard work and then proceed to disagree with everything that they say. deny what they say and say that it is wrong and say that they don't understand and anything but accepting it. feedback, is the breakfast of champions that is something that ken blancardsaid, and anybody and any organization or individual or group of people who cannot accept the feedback and admit to the fact that occasionally they are not doing something that they should be doing, is willfully ignorant and saint thomas said that willful ignorance of what one ought to know is a mortal sin.

the sunshine ordinance, task force hears dozens and dozens of cases each year and they sent you three or four or five and you dismiss every one of them. you take the city's side every single time. only one time, have you ever taken an action and that was to recommend to the mayor that the president of the library commission be removed. and he ignored you. and so i guess that i can't blame you either, would i not want to take the action if i knew that the only thing that i would get is somebody saying that i am not going to do it. and you don't have any power and you don't have any control, people say that the sunshine task force does not and i will give them this, at least, listen to the citizens of this city and when they find a good case, they will issue a violation and i have 19 of them myself and just try to get them enforced. and you can catch people in a

blatant lie and you know the most interesting thing about it, they never have the courage to show up and explain their own actions. and they send some city employees who does not really know what is going on say, here you go on and you defend this illegal action. and poor sue black man at the library commission, the secretary gets stuck defending the actions of gomez and herrera because they do not have the integrity before a body and say that the reason that i did this is because of this. they send her there and the last time that i watched her, she was physically standing there shaking like a leaf because they were asking her questions that they didn't have answers to. >> i am not sure that i know what the agenda item is that you want us to put on. but if you want to submit some

specific agenda item for our consideration, we will certainly consider it. >> i thought that i made it clear, the item would be to have an open public discussion at ethics commission meeting about what you feel this body feels about its obligations under the sunshine ordinance. >> all right, i think that we spelled that out when we set the new regulations for hearing on sunshine complaints. >> but there are no further items? >> public comment >> i thought that we had finished public comment >> one more. >> and any, and anybody want to move to adjourn and then i will ask for the public comment on that? >> any public comment on that?

>> agenda item 7 is general public comment. >> all right. the item 7, is sort of the flip side of two, public comment on the matters appearing or not appearing on the agenda that are within the jurisdiction of the ethics commission. >> ray hartz, san francisco open government and there is that meeting is only about 30 minutes long and i don't feel particularly impolite to use the second opportunity. you can act like i am here just to be a pick on you and poor us and you know, all of this other, crap which you seem to want to present it as. but i have been watching the open meetings in this city for the last five years, attending meetings in the commission and the arts commission, and the

board of supervisors, and the respect that people pay to the public as far as their ability to participate in meetings to make public meeting and to make the public records is ludicris and part that have responsibility falls with you, the city employees know that if they want to withhold the documents from the public because it is going to make them look bad and because no one in the city especially this commission is going to do a thing about it. and you are going to come up with 150 records and in fact, mr. saint croix had to be defended in the superior court of california and just recently by a lawsuit by allen grossman for withholding records, about the sunshine ordinance, which clearly states, that any communications between the city communications and the matters

regarding, open government issues cannot be hidden from the public uppeder the patient, and where the attorney, public privilege and the ruling came out, and it agreed with the argument and i think that reason is that the city attorney instead of being the kind of person who expects the city employees and departments to follow the law wants to allow them to do whatever they want and then wants to advise the bodies how to avoid giving documents to the public which would expose it. and like i said, i fought with herrera and that man is an intelligent man and i knew that the documents that i was asked that we are asking for and were disposal under the public record's act. and they fought me repeatedly over the public comment. and i have at least eight in finding them in violation of

the law because they didn't like what i say because i think that you can understand it because i am pretty clear, but i will say one thing for me, that i can't say that for a lot of people on the boards or commissions, and i will look you in the eye and say that to your face anything and i would not say it behind your back, but my impression is that you sit there and commission and any comments you wait until we are gone and you wait until we are gone to make them. >> >> item 8, i will hear a motion to ayearn. >> and so moved. >> and second. >> all right. >> comment on that. >> all right. all in favor? >> aye. >> meeting is adjourned.

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>> good morning, everyone. welcome to the san francisco board of supervisors budget and finance committee meeting fo forethursday i'm joined by supervisor eric mar and supervisor john avalos. thank you to the staff >> mr. speaker, do we have any announcements. >> yes. please silence all electronic devices. items acted upon today will be on the supervisor agenda unless stated. >> mr. clerk call item number. the film rebate program

>> colleagues that is legislation that i introduced a little while ago. it continues to attract both film and production in the 76 san francisco. the most recent legislation was to rent space that helped to get a series and it's stemmed to have an estimated $12 million no our city. this includes the web series among eligible productions and it's through june 30th, 2014, and authorize additional funds into the program. again, we're not going to fund those budget it will be next year but it will put the cap.

we're seeing that the web series are 0 popular and we need to continue to make sure that is adopting to the film destroy to capture all the film in our city. in the about jobs and our after the community and continuing to promote the on screen productions pr it's a streamline of web tv. and rising in popularity through a lot of net flicks and house of cards which is an amazing series my wife and i got addicted. and it's about thanking susan robbins for her hard work

running really san francisco's kind of film industry and grabbing hollywood. susan if you want to come up and talk about this and thank you for your hard work >> thank you, very much. i appreciate that. good morning, commissioners. as you know i'm director of the film commission and i appreciate you let me speak here today. as you know filming and production for tv and commercials contribute to san francisco in numerous ways provides local jobs to crew and background jobs and contribute to worldwide recognition. this is one of our tools for tourism. san francisco is the location for some of most recognized films from streets of san

francisco to bullet to vertigo to milk, gnash bridges and even more recently woody allen's movie. in addition the money is put into the san franciscan community it is spent on hotels and door rentals and hardwood and wardrobe purchases and gasoline and except rentals and, of course, our cities services. since it's inception in 2006 the rebate program has had a total of 14 rebates totally more than $100,000. they've spent a lot of money in

san francisco. nearly $12.8 million was spent on the salaries for background extra jobs and other folks. the rebate program is more and more important between fiscal years 2006 and 2012 we had 8 productions take advantage of our incentive but just since fiscal year 2013 we have had incentives with 3 more to be rebate in 2013 that's a total of 9 new productions shooting her in the past year and a half. we're ploy more crew and background extras showcasing

television shows like food networks and the upcoming series looking. which by the way, airs on january 19th. we're asking for 3 things. first to lower the cost of permit television series fees from $100 a day to $50 a day to include web series and the type of production that are giggle for the rebate program and to extend it to january 2013 and there the fund by $1 million. to reduce the costs of permit fees we're been talking to production companies. i speak to groups of filmmakers and a lot of the small

productions still don't take out permits with our office. in fact, i was on tom cast about flvm in northern california and two filmmakers who shot in the city hadn't taken out permits. many smaller independent folks have minimal budgets and we're going to lower the budget for those people to bring the money into our city and to support the the filmmakers. we're proposing this because the web series are not eligible for our incentives, however, this type of production is the way of the future web series are

meeting the increased need of filming on computers. the global index was related by real a california based company that specialize in videos. the amaze of video increased by one hundred percent. amazon and net flicks are pursuing their own series like the emmy house of cards and orange is the new black and amazons by the time to see. and a there are more to come. productions like this very often have budgets that employ many crews and actors. we want to attract that new wave

to san francisco. last we're asking for an estimation that is to sunset on june 30th, 2013. we want appropriations up to $1 million for this that will enable us to look at the approximates that we have the desire to continue the successful programs. studios and production houses look ahead and need to know the incentive their counting on will still be available when we actually shoot here. we're confirming our commitment and hopefully landing more production. i you am sure you want to join me to encourage the economic development here in san francisco. we have that opportunity by adjusting the terms of our

counter legislation. thank you and a colleagues, any questions or comments? supervisor mary >> i'm happy about this and i think realizing technology challenging i'm a big fan of erroneously is the new black and hopefully, there will be more companies like that that choose san francisco. i'm wondering the bigger companies would afford it more and did you consider having the support of the smaller companies while allowing the bigger companies to pay without the rebate >> this will - i mentioned the larger ones so we all have an

idea but this will support local extinct filmmakers and they're eligible for the same pile of money. actually our rebate program not only supports productions like the woody allen films but we've had one called saltwater which will be final cut very soon and a film called test that premiered at the film festival. they were able to take advantage of our program and web series that might not have the budget of a net flick series. but we don't want to miss out on currently there are incentives on a state level that are offered by louisiana, georgia

and new york. unfortunately, the rebate programs across the country are more competitive so for instance, new york has $429,000 per year to incentive vices the programs that were california has $1 million and it's used up the same day. we're lurz this to new york and they have 23 tv series being shot there because of that >> i understand we're competing with other renditions and cities and this is an estimation of one year but it will help to put san francisco back on track.

i wanted to reveal i did a lot of extra series when i was younger i was in the abyss but they cut it out unfortunately. i'm for reestablishing our city for new productions as well. thank you >> i think we have entered the abyss of city hall. >> all right. colleagues, any other questions? supervisor avalos. how come nobody mentioned what's up doc >> it's barbara streisand and ryan o'neill the car chase maybe the copy bullet. i'm waiting for the budget analyst to provide some of emphasis analysis.

the question is whether we need to raise the cap to $3 million based on especially spending for i'm fine with every other aspect of the changes being proposed and looking into smaller production outfits and on and on online content makes sense we can draw in the production outfits >> can i speak to that. >> sure. >> so my understanding from the report that was done by the office what that we had a fund balance of 1 million 4 hundred and to the call of the chair, $80 4 hundred and 12, $80,000 and as of early 2014 we extend