clarification it's the adversities council the only requirement is 51 percent of the members needs to be parents. it's an elected bodies of the potential of including other members that are e l advocates is possible. also the delake is facilitated and the chief oh, there are cindy choi air-conditioned and others who sit and there's parents chinese speaking parents that sit on the delake and i wonder if they have the same issues around translation provided at the meeting >> i think i'd like to ask a question. we are not the question is now

we're spotted to merge with the delake that's not a question we can answer >> perhaps i misspoke i never applied that i was only wondering about it. you bring up some of those concerns from your report my natural reaction is should we have two or one. i'm not bringing that forward and i don't believe i ever said that are i'm just questioning and whether or not i'm justrd our report and a thinking that it's data you get could also be shared with the delake and those are both committees that actually empathize a lot of he parents and now we hear that the educators can be brought to the table too.

i'm wondering if it would strengthen the delake and also you talked about your concerns about the members being appointed by next august. maybe it would reach tout out to the delake. i think those are two committees we want to see that are strong and a represent our voice of english learners. so i think when i read a report like this you said there were only 5 members there and delake could be lacking los also in strength. i'm concerned they're not up to the full advocates for our students. this is where i come from. i'm not suggesting it only requesting that. it came to mind >> sorry i'm so special because

i'm charged with data over 6 years. so i'm not sure i will understand all but delake is a long-term problem because the families are from the elementary school school it's me. and those 92 no new face coming. and another problem is the bbc person. it's a lot of information go back to school talk to the parents and for the policy what do you do and a talking for your school the parents. and b cc would catch up with the school and we part for the - for the b cc member we report what

is going good for everything. and it's really different in two groups. the member is for the school for the member coming and b cc is before job and then same job is for the student and parents >> initialing i know this is a question to go back to the state of california for delake their state mandated and the other is mandate under the low plan. you have to talk about this with the lawyers and who's going to be overseeing the delos angeles and the b cc >> again, it was just a question.

i'm not saying we need to combine the two only a question in response to your report. i have also - i mean, i'm wondering under your remedies - >> commissioner fewer i think it's a good suggestion and we actually on both committees have talked about meeting once a year and sharing information because we get information from parents at different school sites and they have commonality in relationships. we're looking for a way to structure it >> i think since the b cc has a lot of data and i'm hoping you get current and updated information. i don't believe that all the defendant lake and aclu the parents understand the data. and your concern about the

immersion and i don't believe their fully knowledgeable about it i feel your body gets much more data and i see that i was surprised to see that wasn't one of our recommendations. that the b cc i hope would recommend for academic current information be provided to the delake. i hope that information would trickle down through the delake. i think the parents would get the information and how our folks are performing in each category and also program >> i think it depends upon on the elections are at the school site but the focus needs to be

continuing on the academics but people are making to mostly just to give you an example. i feel when it first started we've definitely progressed but some of the data that needs to go to the e lake process those happened through elections. that happens between the departments. >> that modeling to the elation is a good model. and which data is ask for awhile i'm fond of to malls it's not what e lake should be doing >> exactly the problem is s in some schools they've been reduced for that. even though we push back and say this is the data you need on

attention on the school and e l levels we push back but the school site pushes back on the to malls so it's not they not questioned the information >> it's not on the e lake on the parents the on and on us is on the educator the educational leader at that school unless i'm mistaken. >> can i. finish your sentence. i think you have asked a really good question but i wonder if it's getting us far awefield from the b cc report. i'm wondering if we can unpack this idea and i think it's at the rules committee

>> sorry i think i'm throwing a lot your way. >> president norton it's the fofrmgs around our e lakes and how our educational leaders are supporting it. do our educational leaders have the knowledge to actually form a strong e lake and we depend upon our principles to be the ones to encourage the e lake and the encouragement of questions. it's not to make to malls and, of course, it's delicious but let's get real here. so that should be riverside to the curriculum committee. so regardless of our rules whether or not it's legal to combine the department i think the main topic here or issue s here is that we are seeing a

lack of real painter engagement consistently at school site and we're seeing a lack of parents voices at our school sites. so commissioner norton, president i think that perhaps we should refer this to the curriculum meeting >> i think it's a great idea i think we wholeheartedly need more parents involvement how that has impacted our work and we're interested to hear whatever we're interested to hear e l families voices those

people to be appointed in whatever way ambassador our number one priority is that the e l families are recommend and enforced arrest they've done over the years and we continue to see this as a change of how we're formed and have concerned us. it's great to hear from commissioner fewer that there is a real concern that we want the e l families to continue to have a voice and we want that community to be strong so any discussions that you have we hope to be part of those and look forward to hearing how this is going to i understand up >> just one last thing. i think it's important that we have the parents liaisons at the

school sites for a long time now. there's symshould be a functioning e lake at every school if not that warrants an investigation >> one last thing. and sandy fewer you take the minute for the b cc and for the academic and let me finish what school is for the good and held for the e l student and they'll take a minute if good school for the minute. this time we'll ask you for the school name okay. other one and concern for the e

l parents and student. audits b cc take the job different for the data i try again say where the difference? for the by law i forgot how many schools many schools are trying to get the b cc and fourteen members here otherwise and for the oh, come on and for the b cc the job for me, i'm first time coming to understand learning and different for the - it's easy to put together and i'll try again for the english parents not easy job. and f e time you have the meeting >> so we're going to talk about this at committee i think you

had a question. >> you know i appreciate that we've wanted to refer this to the a committee for deeper conversation. i want to say unfortunately and a particularly to this nobody shows up here. it happens time and time again so if we're going to refer this to a committee that we have it out in the community out in the community where it's easily accessible for families to get to. i know they don't show up for something like this. if we take it off from a regular meeting where it's televised i want to be able to have the community access this so i'm asking president norton will you

help us to get this out into the community but let's have a deep conversation with a community. so well-taken. i want to remind the board we've had conversations about how we want to have the contestants where it's a little bit less formal and people feel more comfortable. it's a little bit hard for the board leadership to understand which way do we want to we want the discussions with the committee or here. >> i have a question aren't the meetings open to the public? >> yes. >> so you want to have if in a place that people come to. >> what's been suggested where we can have a deep contestants

you're in presentation mode. we don't have this black or white conversation during a presentation that is at a testify visions meeting. we want to have it at community meetings but unfortunately people don't show up and we end up talking to ourselves. while i appreciate that >> i'll be there. >> but we want to make it. >> it's been (multiple voices). >> and the rest of the families that need this information. i appreciate our indulgence. i want to thank the committee i'll bvr been operating under challenges. i want to correct in the report the name of my awe point he.

i'm chair the curriculum committee. i know there are a number of issues that are raised tonight because of the report not only the delake issue but also how members p are appointed. it's a rules committee issue. i'm going to close it and go to a committee of the whole. their mapped out and the faufkz are set but we can have - there's two separate issues one of them for the structure of the competency and non-mandated committees and donates an issue

we've been discussing a lot. in the rules committee we've asked a continuance agenda item it's complex. it's not that we have any interest in saying this is what you guys have and there has to be more of a black or white. and it should be in the rules committee and that specific issue about elation and training and whether or not the schools have the training they need to support of e lake and the comparison of e lake and delake we'll have to take those two issues separately. i want to raise one related issue. some of us received communication from our chinese taverns about the lack of chinese representation.

it's an issue in terms of members. i feel this is a bigger issue than the curriculum. i feel liquor maybe it's under oath educational issues. i have to say the curriculum committee has mapped out the curriculum. it does touch a lot of what's going on. finally, i wanted to offer a resource for translation so i'm the liaison for the san francisco fund a we have volunteer interpreters that are available to meetings and i encourage you to get in touch with the san francisco education fund. >> thank you. i'm sorry i have

to say i've had a hard time hearing but i'm happy we want to take this issue up in multiple committees because i think those issues have been unresolved for years. i'm happy to see we want to have the training. i think one of the things we should talk about is the division rule that the council never included parents was to be represented the communities that were had a specific interest in and expertise and the monitoring of our language programs. it seems that the very committed and parents have become members of the bilingual council and

have been diluting it's oversight connection and also maybe dloouth some of that leadership on the e lake too. how can it best be served by how we decide how people get on that p them. thanks for all your discussions >> can i ask a clarifying question. commissioner winn's are you saying the b cc should have less parents recommendation >> talking about whether or not the board and i've been or whether we as a school district have been assert active enough i

want to make sure we have that community oversight and connection function be strong. and i also want us to talk about the whether they are recruiting from the same pool from both of those committees while it you. i'm sorry. >> like we've merged the same function and maybe we want that but we have to talk about it. that's my point >> thank you. well first on this issue as chair the rules committee we're happy to have that conversation in the community. commissioner matthew's stepped out but we could have a meeting in the community. i've not mapped it out but we

can make that happen. i want to say thank you for your hard work and service. this is my first year i feel guilty haven't made appointment yet and i apologize for not appointing mop yet. one i want to visit the committee and collaborator on making appoint. the calendar yes to do that. so hopefully, we, do that. the other thing is how the appointments and you made some recommendations and that will be one of the pieces of the conversation in the rules dme. if we maintain the process or structure where individual board

members make appointment is the b cc putting forward potential appointments to the district and having that sent to the board? i think we've received a handful i don't if those came from the b cc and i want to know more and maybe i missed it but i'm not sure if i received the appointments that came from the b cc and would love to talk about that >> sure we have a board liaison who's part of the b cc and she has - we give her names that she send to all the board of education commissioners. i know there's been some parents that she's sent forward - a couple of parents if you haven't received those names we are

happy to send them again. the response we got from at least one commissioner we were talking about diversity and talking about parents i don't know if there's too many parents but those were latino and english learn families that were bilingual and we think they'd be great. we've happy to send the ones we've sent again. but that's at the process we collect. it's not like people are lining up to do this work (laughter) >> we're so exciting but this is really important work. and the district has been so forward thinking in having this b be the focusing of the district. we'd love to send you those names again. how have we get people

appointed. again, our plea once again is you really make sure that e l families are repealed. those are their kids >> thank you and hopefully, there are people listening or watching to this long conversations and we're realizing this how fun this is. did you say what time the b cc meetings are? >> next anyone 6 o'clock at martin luther king. >> at martin luther king. >> we've shown to the advocates and we have great directions with those leadership there and we put the word out there seeing

please send our parents leaders and we've been trying to find teachers. the teachers ask us for a stipend and nobody's getting a stipend but we ask for the teachers for going to another meeting >> mr. mendosa and anyone. >> i want to thank the b cc for they're hard work. i know you keep us busy with the e-mails we're asking some pertinent questions thank you for the opportunity to introduce to the board and everyone our new director of mpd lewis can you stand so the board can see

who you are. multiple lingual pathways department (laughter) but lewis is jimd in and been a great service to the b cc >> thank you superintendent and a number of board members thank you very much for the amount of time and effort you put into this year i know you wouldn't do this if you didn't care about the families in the district. we're grateful and thank you. clearly there's a lot of issues that need to be worked out. i appreciate you coming and speaking to us this evening. at the >> all right. we're going to move into item l.

may i please here the acceptance of the adversaries report. is there a second >> i second. >> may i please hear ard of the recommendation please. good evening commissioners and superintendant. i'm kathie i'm the acting director. this the recommendation of the essence of the oversight requirement the two reports in my summary have been priority we're asking for the board of education of the san francisco unified school district accept the reports for the oversight business for the 2013 and fourteen school year of the 39 schools that are ranged of the academic performance index.

there are improvement for the schools that were included do to meet the state of compliance. i'm here to clarify the findings. >> thank you. oh, this is ms. moore ran. there are no public speakers signed up for this item. are there any comments or questions from the board? yes >> hi, may i request this reported be sent to the student advisory couldn't. >> yes. >> i want to have the students see this report. >> any other comments or questions from board members. >> i want to recognize susan wong who was the individual