and food and beverage manufacturing. i'm interested in two things that are related to new and old school manufacturing. how do we help some of the old manufacturing companies but small personally listed production but their lagging in accepting the newer manufacturing technologies. this doesn't mean we have this markers and hackers and people developing things and the next step how by the we take the commercial viable to the scale whether here or in the u.s. how do we make the entrepreneurs design a way to economically

make things better >> before i get to the next one this is a conversation. your questions can come by raising our hand or submitting it through the twitter. this is hash innovation month someone will follow it and bring those questions. so the panel will bring the audited questions as well. next up. katz is about indigo go. one of the important catalytic which the basically, the web generation in addition to the desktop digital processing katz with indigo go. this is recognition there's a way to bring consumers into the financial model of innovation and manufacturing at the grinning i beginning of the process which is as important as

the digital process as well. and they've got a historical amount of entrepreneurship >> things why that was a great introduction. hi, i'm kate and i work at indigo go which is as chris mentioned it's a leading platform that's based in san francisco. we were off and on here in january 2008 and we've seen so much innovations in companies to come to life through our platform. any week at any given time you can see we're describing million dollars every week. i'm a small business owner and we started in san francisco and move forward to belmount we have

a craft brewery canning line. and we go around the area for our clients. we got our start on ingo-go which is how i learned about the company so we're doing here in san francisco is empowering people to what matters to them. our fournldz set out to make sure that anybody who had a great idea what we was able to kick with a audience that that should be the thing that empowers and funds and gets great ideas off the ground and not have gatekeepers it should be up to the people to make it happen. i'm so persuade u proud to see - when i started i started 15 months ago and i was employee 22

and now we're around 60. so that's the demonstration of our growth to show that it is astronomical when you give the people the tools to make things happen to see what can happen. we had a caption recently raise $13 million for a platform for a smart phone. we had a caption raised $23 million for a maiming home security devise depress people are making real money and i'm proud possible part of it and part of the community >> thank you kate. one other announcement i want to mention this room is one of two there's another room in the hindu and we're going to be joining them afterwards for happy hour so reductions on how to get there and to minimal and

socialize will come at the end of this series on the soushgs. i want to introduce the ceo type a machine it was founded and run here or rather there in tech shop they make 3-d printers and they're on the verge from having started and now stroirl to be a normal big thriving company >> it started off with me i had a 3-d printer i was disappointed with and people offered me money that was about two years ago now. and yeah. we're up to 18 members of staff we're moving out and we're about to roll

outlets new generation machine and it's great in that kind of looking the giant mountains. if i'm not mistaken you're the second company to be kicked off of tech shop for being successful >> finally, there's we have robby from planet labs who does, you know, rocket science among others and robby tell us more. >> absolutely. we at that planet labs design and build and manufacture observation satellites. we put those staeltsz in space and take pictures of the planet. in december of this year we're going to launch the work out are

words largest of 28 satellites this will help us go insight into the planet. but from the standpoint of manufacturing and where we're here and markers there's actually our shared investors and they had a blog on investors going pro and we were doing the same thing but we started pro tipping and building a satellite in our garage and we built them differently. then when it got to a point of turning it into a real company and receiving venture cpa capital we moved to san francisco this is argue community and who weer. so we moved up about a i can't

remember or year and a half go ago on second and brian and it's going to be an exciting year >> so i wanted to broadened it a little bit because i'm actually not based on in san francisco i'm in berkley and according to my friends and landlords recognizing that san francisco is not competing with berkley or oakland we're competing with new hubs around the country. it's or eric the biggest is in brooklyn. new york has the highest design schools and designers and because designing stuff looks like like software. it matters less who has the

smarter space but who is the most threatened. what we're competing with t is not new york or the metropolitan area but paris but, you know, someplace in indian this is a global connection how is san francisco going to capitalize to compete. let me turn to the panel and start with the negatives. what's your biggest problem what's the one thing that bothers you the most and if you could be mayor for a minute what would you change start there >> i can do one wearing two different hats.

as a manufacturer my biggest problem and concern is not hiring the top level engineers, you know, software prarmdz. it is 90 in high quality people who know how to make a high quality product and it well finished and people that do that people need to a debug machines. so we have a gap if the manufacturing work in the middle so the operators are not going to change the production so that worries me. as an individual i'm worried about the workshops we're creating look like their hiring people and they employ people to pack things in boxes at the low

end of the spectrum but it's dprerg the concern we're the hallowing out of the middle class. i don't think enough people talk about it honestly and if i was mayor of the city and if i was trying to make a city hewitt and vibrate this encompass a little bit counter to that so i would figure out how to get ahead of that and i don't have great ideas >> we've got the overflow room but take mayor for a day. >> i agree with evening he said so i'd like have to figure out a way to come up with something but having space for all the manufacturers in the is city it

doesn't have to be massive space we're seeing very high vibrant company that handling things by being creative where we can peck away at folks and not have higher rents and leases and have the things in the city to create the jobs. >> i'm not a manufacturer but if in terms of rioting talent but i'm not sure what to do you rent i know for myself being priced out of apartment and not having the space to rent is a problem so that would be something i would do.

>> so i would have begun with the first two the third. i fit in my apartment i used to live in london which is smaller apartment wise. i be given the options i would find some way to give people access to workshops. as people are being to innovative in the education spaces putting c and c tools into the hands of younger and young people make them more easily available there needs to be a nature progression and people need to see facilities like tech spop shop more used than a gym basically >> on a serious note i would

probably try to focus on education. that's something that's all mentioned now a father of two i'm not a father of anybody yet by that's a serious problem people move out of the cities when they have children. with respect to innovation i would want the space not just for office building but for residential we could unleash our population when we think about how to use our buildings that are vacated and zone in simple a way to be a bit important modern of what the creative people want to do. a lot of people are living and

working in similar places and tailors not a difference >> let me be more specific about space. tells us exactly where your located right now where are you likely to move to next? >> i know we have a pipe organize manufacturing factory at the corner of alabama which is ton e 101 national historic building. i'm long-winded on this it's on the historic registers because that building was designed to make one thing pipe organize it has double story places for the rec room where you put it

together before you ship it off to the church. and nucleus and koran i didn't see that has a cabinet that says not used tools (laughter) this as manufacturing pipe organs and they were slow and quiet in the last few years when we started to use the machines we got complaints from the people you shouldn't be manufacturing in this neighborhood. in many ways that building illustrates some of the problems. we're trying to we've likely expand from that 7 thousand feet to roughly 15 thousand feet.

yo tell you exactly where the building is because i'm competing with bloody releasing. it was original the building that made ail the watertank for the city and county of san francisco. it's not cheap and really the transplant is so expensive, you know, if you express the cost of releasing at the cost of talent it's not bad but it's extensive to do what we do >> can you say what kind of prices you've been quoted. >> this is actually why i'm buying buildings now instead of renting effectively the mortgage

rate is three to four bucks. >> a 125 and 3ish. >> yes. got you. >> are you movie. >> pardon and a no, i hope not. we're looked e located with the tech shop and we're crammed into a small space we're not manufacturing we're kin dressed folks we actually get a descendent flow of entrepreneurs having innovated products if there's no room we'll go back to where we started with other manufacturers manufacturers. so maybe paul will have some space if we run anti. one thing i'll add two thirds of my staff can't afford to live in

san francisco we are doing a survey and the percentage of the employee based is close to 4 thousand working in the seethe of folks who were commuting to san francisco is engrossing. i guess on the one hand dig deep and employ local residents but the reality is we have to balance our team deserve to see as much talent coming out of san francisco but we are a - the reality is being able to work we have to live further awe field >> can you redefine our mission to include the bay area. >> what we've done a slightly

different take is reach out to 32 other major cities we've created you upper manufacturing alliance. the second time we've met was in oakland. and the coolest thing of connecting and trying to collaborate with brooklyn and new york we had philadelphia and monreal there but we had fremont there and san lien and san jose. we found others spending more time talking to colleagues in chicago and new york then each other. but what works is rather than delighting that probation officer to be bay area made i

think each of us willing to collaborate in navigation and we have component in richmond and san jose and fremont and in billing ham so it is really bay area made which is barmaid which is catch i didn't were >> kate is going to stay around the counseling corn. >> yes. we moved from the responding area and now we're at 965 mission. so we're happy we really like our spot any public comment? come visit and i know you're getting kicked out. you can only top some much of space until people start complaining.

we're aiming to try to move soon. we would like to stay in san francisco but as you can hear it's difficult to find space that's affordable. because we're so small and new it's difficult to find architectural leasing temperatures. we're hive libel to not end up in san francisco. there's. first class the east bay that are willing to make it work >> would you talk about the acceptable terms and there's things like being able to start any kind of laekz period with recommending small space by with options to extend rapidly. if we hit the growth curb we'll

double or triple in size in the next month's. we're not like an office where we'll have 3 thousand square feet of office and people sit on top of each other. we can't do that and it's hard to find 10 thousand square feet and let you lease 3 thousand and happy to leave it empty in case you need it. we're going to have problem signing leases because we don't have cash or the credit history to do that >> how do your employees feel about the possibility. >> they want to stay in san francisco but a majority of them live in the east bay pr they like the fact in san francisco their short distances from ail

kinds of stuff. that's a concern they maintain that pleasant environment to be located in >> how about you. >> we got really lucky when we moved in a few blocks away where our neighbor moved out after 6 months and sewe punched a hole in the wall and about 6 months later the other neighbor moved out. so we it would be wonderful to go up in the same building and not necessarily have to move but if we have to move it will be somewhere in the mission area. we want to stay close to where our employees live in east bay >> i'd like to take questions from the audience including

twitter the hash tag is innovation month. we have people monitoring that as well. put your hand up i'll call on you. don't be shy. actually, we have a microphone to take back there. one of these perhaps. oh, it's got a table highway is - cable a long cable. perfect thank you come up to the mike appreciate it. >> hi, robbing you mentioned you were able to take up spaces on each side. >> they left because they got a series b and wanted a more polish office. >> where is the porsche office did they stay in san francisco.

>> they did by mission bay by the ballpark it went from 2 there's a square feet to what they're doing around $5 a square feet. >> thank you. >> you're holding the mike. another question from the audience if you don't ask questions i'd like have to do it myself. all right. oh, yes. thank you >> hi, i'm pat reilly we're at the 9 you wouldn't on the fifth floor. has there been any intentional effort to improve the mid-market neighborhood which is, you know, there has been intentional efforts to bring in twitter and indigo go and others but i'm

wondering from the markers community what efforts do you see around this community >> i should mention we have the mayor's staff here and i'll feel free to asking speak for you. >> i have a question. >> what is it specifically for the mistakes? >> so i'm going to say two things and one is probably going to be about the piers pr we all have some displacement out of the south market area. from the variety of activities to support manufacturers we know as well sea as much as and do in finding space we're trying to

help folks find spaces. so on the on hand we've seen the debar me out sector which is the strongest in the country is around the chinese-american communities so we've been able to stay ahead of the curb and proactively we're helping folks relocate. we've successfully been to help folks relot but it's taking more and more mustards who kafrnt pay two or three bucks a square foot. the second piece is we seeing folks move sgoi adopt not bay

view area. but down in that area the rent prices are more reasonable between $0.80 to 25 a square foot but because of the lack of activity we have a harder time placing people down there. even if that means google to replicate private shuttle services into the bay view of would be a great start. and here's the see success side another thing we do at sf made we help companies higher through fluoroscopic services we started an entrepreneurship program we're going to take folks from a nonprofit organization and

proactively plaza them into jobs the first batch of kids come if the neighborhood. and i can take a neighborhood approach to it and take the neighborhood lens and look at it plaza kids specifically in those neighborhoods companies this is concentrated out of belleview >> kate reminded me of one of my passions i believe entrepreneurship enormous in companies that make things. the real learning curb is more like a