reasons they would be coming. i am, again, in total agreement and hope and ask that the proposal be implemented. thank you. >> thank you. next speaker. >> i'm linda belden. i came here today to in support of your resolution supervisor winner. i took the afternoon off of work to be here. my dog is at fort kohn sent right now herself playing with her group. i had read that 40% of san francisco households have dogs in them. which leads me to believe that 40% of the population loves their dogs and needs places to exercise them. i have been walking my dog for that crissy field for over 25 years. it's one of the great neighborly things we have 2 do here in our city. i am appalled at the gg nra is now towing san francisco's that we can't use our waterfront as we have for

decades, as you so well pointed out. there are some great things that have already been said. just the other thing was, obviously, i'm particularly interested in fort [inaudible] is really just a huge dog park and i think it's so important that we keep it a place for dogs to run off leash and enjoy being a dog. thank you. >> thank you very much. next speaker >> thank you supervisors for having this name. my name is shelby watkins. i came here in 1954. having grown up in the richmond district and the sunset district i have fond memories of playing [inaudible] ocean beaches whilst fort [inaudible] especial on the sand dunes. i inherited my mother's dog in 1973. superintendent [inaudible]

promise that it's going to preserve the general character of the present usage was not important to me at the time because it's a favorite place for people to go. since that time, of course, there's been a continual antagonism that i can only address as being may be punitive particularly to dog walkers. i can't believe myself that still continuing at this time. i believe it's a promise. when they made that promise they were assuming i think that we would forget. you are the board or have the power to rescind that agreements. because they fail to keep up the park we used a concrete paved roads and pathways along the edge of the bluffs as well as any at your. wheelchair access were very easily obtained. now, they put orange cones of their. the roads you wrote. you'll see many will

just because they don't have access there. you can forget that this is along the bluffs because that's covered over by sand. so unfortunately they failed in their promise to maintain as well as to preserve. i urge you to rescind that agreement if they do not do so. thank you very much >> thank you very much. next speaker >> i am lisa [inaudible], native san franciscan and a public school teacher and i so happy i took the day off because this is actually my 1st supervisor meeting where you get it. i've had dogs for the last several years. crissy field, [inaudible] beach all those places we went to crissy field 2 days ago. i'm really surprised actually that all the dog restrictions. we were not sure where to walk. we definitely do not take our dogs off leash. i hate to see happen at fort kohn sent. yesterday my boys and i were there with our dog and we were on the bluffs and we saw a part of

[inaudible]. every special moment. my boys are 14. we don't have that many special moments together because they are rough. but you know if this resolution were to go through we would not be allowed there. we pay our taxes. we join the national parks and state parks. there are so many places we can't go with our dog. i like to see us keep our places that we could go. >> thank you very much. next speaker >>

>> when you least impact study concludes that there will be no impact. yet the gg nra provided no evidence or data to support that conclusion. they conducted a survey of a database that they maintained a people who approach them on the issue. but i ought not fail to see how that could be conclusive or even working information for a [inaudible] site that 2nd most is the property among all national parks. it's just not reflective of the visitor use. dog walkers and even non-dog walkers in the gg eric. it seems to me they made gone through the motions. they may have checked a box but i'm just not sure if they were ever sincere or even intended to

carry through with [inaudible] analysis on. if not it's not unreasonable for the city to ask the gg nra on the issue to work collaboratively and with each other. we worked together at the current public work. a joint operating agreement for the right highway. our animal control and care department is the 1st responder in the gg nra for animal issues. our fire and medical are the 1st responder in most gg and array lands for any medical issue. i hope that you will keep [inaudible] >> thank you very much. next speaker. >> my name is david male. i'm a dog owner. i'm also the owner of the soon-to-be open a bulldog [inaudible]. by speaking out in support of dog owners and dog usage. i think the whole issue is about inclusion and i was reminded of this when i came today to city

hall which so often happens. i saw a couple getting married. i couldn't get married for so long and whenever i saw a couple getting married just made me sad. when i finally was able to get married the my husband had to get married in washington dc. i'm so happy now that in san francisco we are now included in the marriage process and i think that's what this is about. we were in, a park in the east bay and we were walking with different kinds of people. they had children. there were people on bicycles. we all got along. we all respected each other. dog owners respected the bicycle riders. the bicycle riders respected the people with children and it's the same thing. it's about inclusion. i think i'll just need to get along and let everybody use the parks. thank you.

>> thank you very much. next speaker >> my name is michael lesser. i live on potrero hill where i lived for 40 years. with dog. at all-time. when i got my 1st dog he felt plain and broke a leg and the veterinarian said get this dog active. don't just walk them around the block because you're afraid you'll will hurt him. get him running get them playing as much as possible. in order to avoid arthritis in his later years. i've had 5 dogs since then and each of them have been fitted, as i have benefited, from walking at fort carson and crissy field and stern grove. i want to mention the stern grove because during the federal shutdown i normally walk my dog

every morning for an hour and a half or 2 hours on a 3 mile trail at fort carson. during the shutdown i took him to stern grove in the mornings. at the same time i would normally be at fort constant and stern grove was incredibly crowded at all times. i was really happy that the shutdown ended because it allowed me to get back to the place that i normally walk the dogs and i would hope that the gg nra could be kept from instituting what they now call access. when they 1st proposed it it was dog management plan. when i saw dog management plan, i knew exactly what they meant. that was

[inaudible] on the property. >> thank you very much. before the next billy mcauliffe you mornings. andrea buffa, nancy stafford, gregory leadbetter, kathy reichert, demott and demetrius, mitch deletion, carol munsch, lidia did negri, tony bowls, susan over iasi, sase ballasts [inaudible] laurie adamson, mort ginsberg, and john keating. go ahead. thank you >> my ipad notes just ran out so i'm going to have to do this straight from the heart. my name is linda alanis and i live

in know we valley. i have to tell you that to me there is no more beautiful sight in the whole world than healthy happy dogs playing. especially playing in a beautiful place. i would think that for my last site on earth i would like to hear healthy happy dogs playing with in the background with opera playing in the background. i don't know when you were last at fort constant but my for 13-year-old very sick dog and i were there yesterday. i want to, she's probably there right now with her dog walker. i want to point out that nature is doing what nature does what always does. that is, take back the part. with her had been roads there is now san. so something is happening. nature is telling us that this is not a place of

roads. this is a place for everyone to enjoy. if all the people in the world in the world were as friendly and open and nice as the people i meet at fort constant, what a better place this would be. so there are very few strangers i can walk up to and just say, hello, are you interested in that or where did you get your [inaudible] but i can go to somebody and say what a beautiful dog. would you get him? people are friendly. people are open. people are communicative. there's a sense of community. our dogs needed. they love it. we need it and by the way, the dogs don't bother the birds. those damn ravens, harass the dogs. they sure do. i have one more suggestion. put somebody would somebody please get frank dean a dog. >> thank you. next speaker

>> i just had a baby. he's 2 months old. we have a dog who is 11 years old. my wife's parents are in their 70s and a live without. my parents are in their 70s.. they visit almost every weekend. we go frequently to the beaches. it's really the only place we can all go as a family and everybody does their thing. were all busy. we don't have time to do all the different activities for all the different people every week. it's a blessing. we've got for many years and we appreciate it even more now. i'm talking out crissy beach, ocean beach, fort constant, karin [inaudible] all of them. it's every week kind of thing. it's critically important for us, for our health, for our baby. it's just not about dogs it's about families. since frank dean is not here, i'm

really speaking to the choir here. what i want to do is talk to everyone here and everyone behind me, i think we should be pushing to take our park back. some imagine that earlier. they are our parts did we pay tax. we live here. we are citizens. what know what more do we need? federal government is not listening. they gone through this process several times and they just don't get it. so challenge our supervisors within very awful and supportive and everyone behind me as many of us are protesters and volunteers that it's time to take back our parts and take it to the next level. thank you. >> thank you. next he could >> next speaker >> hello my number name is russell [inaudible] the san francisco resident and owner of a dog care business called small [inaudible] animal also a dog owner. most of all, i would like to thank the board of supervisors for bringing this hearing in this issue. i support your resolution. i'm strongly opposed to the gg nra current proposal as it stands.

thank you. >> thank you very much. next speaker >> my name is andrea [inaudible] i live in glen park. i just want to make a few points. i really appreciate you all keeping your eye on this issue. and trying to keep the gg nra honest on this and representing us in our interest. i don't it's okay for a federal agency or state agency or any other agency to make agreements with the city and break them. that is what the gg nra is proposing to do by eliminating recreation as a primary mandate for the area that we go to visit with our dogs, our families, that we love to walk in and stay healthy in. the other point [inaudible] federal officials have been able to stop this. it's our san francisco officials that need to say 1st this is our city and we need you to support us in this. it's

important that we pass this resolution and put the city of san francisco strongly on the record as against the gg nra's proposal. finally, i miss a lot, because i was at work but i want to say that clearly from my perspective and a lot of other perspectives this isn't an issue of our mental versus dog walk dog lovers. i'm a strong environment will advocate and have been for my entire life. we can protect the environment. you can preserve recreation for dogs are families and all the people san francisco but not through this print. i'm standing up against this plan. thank you. >> next speaker. >> i'm nancy stafford codirector of the san francisco professional dog walkers association. we fully support this resolution and thank you for bringing it forward. we were surprised and disappointed with the few changes that revised the current plan. previous public comment land, 75% against. why does the gg nra asked for public comment if they are going to discount it.

it appears if the results don't suit their vision they feel free to ignore them. yet say they've done their due diligence. even if they have not. the dg nra claims there required to manage the park the same as all recreation or national parks. if in their hands are tied. hasn't the gg nra try to change the rules that fit the needs of a national recreation area located in an urban area. during recent shutdown professional dog walkers noticed increased use of the parks they frequent by additional owners and dog walkers. mclaren had overflowing garbage cans. i also want to correct the number of dogs in the city. 120,000 dogs was quoted by carl friedman. over a dozen years ago. the spca now estimates there are 178,000. thank you.

>> thank you very much. next >> good afternoon, supervised. my name is greg leadbetter and i am [inaudible] i'm actually sitting here on behalf of chico. i'm urging you and thanking you very much supervisor wiener, for bringing this to everyone's attention. being a pet owner that lives in the suburbs i look forward to being able to go out to crissy field and having some together time with my dog off the leash to where we can mind at our own pace and his own pace. where he can interact with the other animals that are out there at the field. where they can all play and enjoy each other's company untethered and not restricted. i have several

parks in my neighborhood and, like you've heard from others, there are so many rules and regulations there. i don't know whether i can go use the bathroom let alone my pets. so if you guys would please continue to fight the good struggle and see if we can turn it around and take our parks back because this is ridiculous. thank you. >> thank you. next speaker >> hi. my name is anthony [inaudible] i lived in san francisco for 10 years. since 2001 when i moved here. just recently i moved to delhi city. i am a dog walker. i've been for 3 years now. almost 4 actually. i just again want to say thank you for bringing this forward. you know, i feel that for constant is a gem for us for san francisco. there are a

lot of other places that i've been to where i look at the dog rules and i live in san mateo county where no off leash areas and it's so strange to me to live near a 33,000 acre nature preserve and not even be able to take a dog or on leash. when you look at federal match national parks, state parks, other cities, the mo in general is that dogs are not allowed so i feel some porn to stand up and say this is our land. this is something uniquely going on in san francisco. this is part of our culture and our well-being. and to preserve that unique feature of our urban landscape as an independent one-man show business owner, i am very happy what i do and feel extremely satisfied that i was disappointed with the new dog walker legislation because it limited my group size. for example, when gg nra was

[inaudible] i had 3 dogs boarding plus one of my own and to have to be limited to a group size of 8, i was not able to legally walk all the dogs that i had that day. this is a high cost of living area. i'm speaking from very limited experience as a dog walker, but i like to have a little bit more room to operate my business and have financial freedom in a high cost of living area. thank you >> thank you very much. next speaker. >> hello. my name is susan kobayashi and him and a former chair of the point isabel dog owners association. point isabel is a multiuse off leash recreation area in richmond california and part of the east bay regional park district system. i just want to say

thank you for keeping the gg nra honest in its dealings with the city. it's a federal agency. we all have a stake in it and i would like to see that it continue to be available for the off leash recreation. thank you very much. >> thank you very much. next speaker. >> my name is [inaudible]. i'm a dog owner and this is my dog moved to san francisco 2 years you. basically, everything has been said. by all the different people. i would like to [inaudible] walking off leash with my dog on ocean beach. that's where we're going. my dog had surgery and he needs to walk at his own pace. i did not have surgery but i also need to

walk in my own pace. [inaudible] where i feel he saved an unsafe. if i couldn't go there with my dog it would be better for him and i think i would not go because being with your dog, when you need to walk, it gives you a positive motivation. i think it's the same for most senior people. yes, and also i feel safe walking with my dog. where i was not with my dog i would not feel that safe, i think. the 2nd thing is i don't have any family in the us and i'm a housewife. so walking with my dog is most important opportunity for me to [inaudible] with different kind

of people. dog owners and non-dog owners. it's also, other people said, it's a very good way to socialize. i think being in a city where you have people, children, you have dogs, the different kinds of dogs, different kind of people, different kind of [inaudible] here in the city we share the space in winnie to be >> thank you very much. next speaker. >> my name is kathy reichert. i live in district 3 n. beach northing supervisor wiener for holding the hearing today. [inaudible] 2 years ago and other than that i think city hall wants to get my marriage license so that gives me an idea of how important this issue is to me. [inaudible]

greatly impact the well-being of my dog my family and myself. i adopted my dog 3 years ago when she had a variety of anxiety and behavioral issues. was i going to fort carson with exercise and socialization that her problems have been managed. i can literally say for constant save my dog. my husband called for cuts in the city canine mental health center. for some dogs going to a small neighborhood park isn't enough if the difference between a gel cell in an open field. some dogs need to run. some don't. but mine does. one high-energy breed doesn't get enough exercise that extra energy become anxiety, parking and even aggression all of which i've experienced with my dog. exercise is a simple solution to many of these problems for a lot of dog. the exercise also helps me my family has a history of asthma and high blood pressure but thanks to my dog [inaudible] i'm well on my

way to breaking that pattern. i'm pretty sure it's not the presence of dogs that's preventing non-dog owners from going to places like fort constant. if i don't have a dog would exercise somewhere less windy and closer to home. i don't think that the older folks that washington square and chinatown are going to go to fort constant to do tai chi. no matter how much dog poop there is washing his characters going to be more people sunbathing there at fort constant. so the truth is both places will be better places if this draft dog [inaudible] does not exist. thank you >> thank you very much. next speaker. >> hi. i'm mort ginsberg i'm 80 years old. i'm a homeowner. i've walk my dog at fort constant for the last 30 years.

at least. next my wife is the most important thing in my life. is walking those dog. we stricken them in the exercise i get from those dogs is critical. i beg you to try to do something about this. thank you very much >> thank you. i just want to thank you all for continuing this supervisor wiener with a cosponsor of those and kim. here's hoping your new colleagues will continue to support in the legacy. unfortunately don't have the same kind of public form with the gg nra. so we are relying on you the political process to help us out on this. 1st off, don't let anyone convince you that dog guardians are not environmentalist. russell numbers of the most notable national environmental groups.

we are about everything environmental. dog pack, and i represent dog pack of san francisco here, dog pack supports all the previous speakers and the department's comments in this edition. the gg nra official did not address your concerns. they ignored you bust your constituents. recreation is for all. on the heels of the stock restriction plan is the general management plan. which would seek to further restrict public access. so if you're able to complete their plans by imposing this dog management plan, just wait and see what happens to the rest of this. the gg nra wants to restrict and lower the recreational standard but was equally categorized as a national park akin to you summon and yells and honestly san francisco does not want and is not that. finally, personally, as you know i have had it serviced regularly for the past decade. for these dogs

that work all day and are restricted from any additional exercise or more less freedoms having the space and the area to be able to recreate and stretch themselves out is extremely important for the health every day. please [inaudible] chrissy speak, even north and south of us are really important for all dogs to get info exercise. thank you very much. >> thank you. next speaker. >> my name is marie adamson. several things that i want to say about have already been said. so just 2 things. i think it was extremely efficient of our government to shut down so that we could conduct our own lands management, what's the

term. i lost the term. environment. the environment statement because several people that commented of the stern grove being so overcrowded. on a personal note i have a service dog also. like the man before me, if she didn't get her off leash time she would not be able to do her job. she would be a complete jerk without her off leash time. >> thank you. before the next bigger recall the final batch of names. these of the tory, [inaudible] tonya lampert, then [inaudible], andrea patterson, ruben garcia, elizabeth oconto. go ahead. >> good afternoon. i'm john keating. i want to thank you for your