wood or brick cleaning are droiksdz will be include in the amendment. sorry 3 other conditions one is a paint colors conducted by professional will be submitted to the planning department for review and approval and prior to issuance of the addendum samples of any new materials such as the third desk tiles and blaring and for the fish for the windows and doors me any hard will be forwarded to the preservation and staff for our review. and finally, there's prior to issuance we're requesting that certain maurpz can be done all

at once but in particular those include the repair of the wood shingles and the new redwood fence. there were 4 letters of support one is in your package. we've received no other public comments at this time. other than that i have no further comments the project sponsor is here and will give you a short presentation and would like to discuss some of the questions and so meet the intent of those conditions. >> thank you. commissioners i'm paul scott. i live in the neighborhood of

julius castle and have for longer than i care to remember 15 years or so. i just wanted to speak to a couple of items. in terms of my involvement with this building i care about my building i'm the former president of t hd and was the president of save our neighborhoods where we have the america's cup facilities today. i'm a lawyer will i profession but i've done property work on the filner's steps - i'm not sure how to operate this. that's not the after but the before picture. and we did some work on that

place which isn't coming across well. we restored that building to the pen of the neighborhood and also to the satisfaction of the folks who were concerned in a historically done fashion. we're coming from the prospective of trying to do the right thing. we want to restore to the historic use. when i bought the people i was told about their prom night or first job interview and the vast vast number of people wanted it to be returned to that use. the real estate folks were sacrificing it's not a brilliant plan but fortunately it's subject to the exterior standards. it looks like, you know, we're on the same page jefferson with

the staff with respect to the envelope and the replacement of doors and windows and trying to beautify this building. we have still a couple of issues we'd like to have our thoughts on and get going forward with what you folks think is best. first of all, with respect to the brick wall on the front of the stairs at the front of building that's on page 17 of the proposal packet the sponsored packet. i'll put that on the gene if i can. on the screen if i can. that is the current condition. you can see the bring on the

left on the bottom of the stairs and the stuck odd wall. if you look at how this building look before it was all stuck owed there before and the owner wanted the brick there on the stairwell. in my view that's not consisted with want history of this building and throughout the history of the building you have imagines in our packet it was always a stuck owed wall it didn't have a justification. we would like to correct that condition and return that to a

stucco finish. a second concern of ours relates to the fence. ms. price said we could mention to you a possible solution with respect to the fence that's on page 16. so this is the the fence as it exists now. this is the wall that's added the misconduct owed wall that was added by the prior owner that is what it looks like from the outside. this is the retaining dirt from the hill on the greenish steps. this is how it appears on the inside of that wall it's integrated with the surface of the patio and also with the wall retaining the hill from the west

side. what we've been asked to do is essential tear down that wall and curve that will come down the slope and build a wood fence on top of rve. we were proposed to put a wood facing along the existing that all u wall to allow it to be a sprakt wall and to function as a retaining wall on the dirt and i think that was a dissatisfactory condition. we will perhaps thanking take this wall again and drive 3 this wall back slightly they were

create a double gate and my architect is here that has an luxury if we have this line so here's the proposal which will go along with if the commission elections to vote that manner but the other alternative would be to put a double gate and a drive that is he time wall it will still be an integrated space that will transaction from that wall instead of having a fence we're doing it for aesthetic reasons and trying to reminded we're on the hill.

one other issue is with respect to the conditions of approval there are references to there for a architecture addendum and i understand those were typically used on a scale when maybe i'm misunderstanding terminology but itself concern we have with respect to the conditions of approval they're very broad and vague and not as specific as we've seen on the projects that were before you. we're happy to do those with some discussion lou but there's a lack of clarity to the conditions. i'd like to ask that those be 4r507kd. we have another alternative, you know, draft of the conditions of the approval for you to consider but perhaps looking at them you could determine which items are

significant to add as a condition. we're trying to do that with some sense of the financial consequences because ultimately that goes into that's money that could be spent on others items. though i understand the importance of it. we've been doing it we underlined filed this application more than a year ago and we'd like to move the process forward. reference to a painting analysis. we have as you've seen in one of the images here actually on the cover of our sponsor packet that's an illness that was on the cover of the san francisco book that note has a variety of

more beautiful landmarks in san francisco was included in that. the person who did the colors for that building has colors. he's here. we don't think we need to have a scientist come in and scratch the paint we're simply president to reconstitute the colors that were there. the only comment i would make is with respect to the continual use language i want to be assured that that's not something that is the finding this commission will be making. so thank you for your time

>> thank you, commissioners any questions or staff or sponsor and a commissioners. >> i'm just going to get the clarification of the stucco and brick wall. right now it's brick and i want to option of doing either? >> we put the two options in the plans a product you have our conversations with staff but your preference is to return it to misconduct 0. other than when this other gentleman 5 years ago put brick there >> does planning have an opinion. >> on the overhead there are historic photos. this is a historic photo from 57

while there's been modifications over time this brick wall has been this partial stair where the brick has been exposed sometime. it certainly was restored of a nature and we felt this material should be left exposed but mr. scott is correct the finish of that area has changed back and forth over time by we felt brick would be more appropriate as a finish >> thank you. >> yes. i'm interested in a long-term life of this landmark so i'm glad you're doing this project. >> what's related to this is the geologic stability of the building in relationship to the

setting of the context. so number one i'm interested in the condition assessment maybe that's the planning commission whether it includes you're the engineering that has to be done or what is the condition of the building in relationship to stability and the reason i'm concerned about 3 too is recently, there was a landslide several months ago in the area and so some precautions were taken right directly above that. so i'm interested in that part it's not related to the historic preservation commission but there are some consideration i'm interested >> we've had a structural engineer to look at the building

and fortunately it looks good there's concrete foundation. it appears going down we're feeling pretty good about this building thing because obviously it's a tough place to work >> one question for staff. what's our preference over pink colors >> there are some places where we have that you are view over the finish rather at the end of the day staff feels because one of the defining feature see the large-scale signage that's prominent harassing as seen below the cliff we want to make

sure the paint was capable we where weren't or weren't going to dictate the color but the sponsor to have some background information and sharing it with staff so we can include it in our files. >> what a make up be - >> sufficient? >> yes. absolutely. >> the project sponsor proposed is that reasonable. >> i believe that would meet our context. >> it's not just an artists a science so if we have information on the original colors and the appearance of it is acceptable i'd find that would be sufficient. >> we'll be happy or if the commission wanted we'll followed that into the make up condition

of approval and look at them together and and a couple of quick things. the wood citing over concrete i wasn't foreperson this example >> sure i'll provide a little bit of background. so part of the work from the previous owner was to install this concrete wall with the tile. and the detail at the top and staff doesn't feel that's a it meets the standards that it's capable with the property >> that the same? >> yes. >> that's the bank side and front? >> that's correct. >> so the wood paneling would continue on. >> on the outside face. so we've felt there are two

issues one we've originally requested a fence instead of a concrete wall and second there may be a maintenance issue with the concrete wall and the concrete wall is a more permanent structure then maybe the fence could be cut down and the wall or the fence be installed in front of it >> i didn't follow the comments about the conditional use. >> i apologize for not including that in my presentation. the restaurants use was there before it requires conditional use from the planning department but we added to our motion your

encourage time to the planning commission to make sure that the conditions of the approval be folded into the come use of the recuperate >> commissioners pearlman >> just sort of similar to that there was the comment about the architecture addendum has no one explained getting a permit because it's required by dbi. it means our submittal of our documents >> we had this conversation yesterday. >> that seems like a straightforward. >> joy to be clear i understood you get our permit stamped and the architecture addendum it would seem like a different beast than simply getting plans approved. i understand they have to be

approved by dbi. >> well, to the club of how dbi actually issues permits. >> with respect to the brick surface on that stair the brick that was in the luxury or the picture recover shown by mr. fry that brick is on a retaining wall that was holding up basically the dirt from the green rich wall. we're trying to keep the building as it was and if that wall goes up that would be the same as it was before. so that's one distinction i think it worth noting >> if i understand the conditions of approval that argue requesting alternatives are removal the gate in the

rear, the gate and the small retaining wall, if you will, the paint make up restoration and the stair with the misconduct 0 and the brick and there's a fourth one? >> well, there's just - conditions of approval that i just i'm not an architect i've done some of the things and in looking at the conditions of approval that you folks have done before they're more specific you want a particular item done not resubmit all the plans again. the reason i'm concerned it's been a year and a month and we've got the rains coming there are leaks in the building. i'd like to have information

>> so on the fence in back i've worked on a bunch of hillsides and i've also felt once the drainage is left you don't touch it. i'd be a big fan of leaving it there and filling in the acres to make it smooth again but i'd like to not distributor the dirt and water flow off the hill. it sounds like the paint and make up we've settled and the stair i really. fine either way. commissioner highland >> i wanted to further the conversation about the resubmittal. i think those are conditions to get the final approval so once

you submit for your permit once those conditions are met planning will sign off and then you'll get our building permit. it's not an extra step its common. and if there's some specific recommendation that's not too general >> my preservation architect is here and he can speak. it's helpful to go through them we can do that and i have a question for planning staff. we have approved drawings and don't attach some detailed conditions because the project has to go back to annoying and planning has to make sure that

what was approved by the commission meets those requirements. i'm curious it seems like some of them say a longer condition list. and a sure tim fry department staff. one of the conditions for approval will hopefully provide mr. scott and his accountant more certainty about what we're looking at. so being very clear open the types of drawings and dimensions and details we'll gotten this information just we're going to fold it into the project. the second point it's common for us to require make up materials average providing the clarity

about the addendum it's a fairly standard list of approvals the intent is not to hold up the approval but to fit them in with the construction schedule and to meet them out there wherever appropriate >> we're not done yet. >> are we done with questions. >> can i add a few comments. if you go through those two-thirds of them are in the documents the way they're asking for them. several of those aren't even proposed. so it seems far more vague then necessary. i'll point out a few skrirpgz

bullet two is 50 percent replacement in fact, we have 5 percent. and you go down to button tin number 5 requires an agreement so there's overlapping concerns here and i mean that respectfully. we've had four rounds the comments to this date that has honed down a lot of those details. the make up i understand the benefit of make ups. i don't see the benefit of a repaired shingle or of 0 redwood fence standard material there's just so it seems there's a stretch going on here further than necessary. i think it's been a cooperative process

>> thank you. so we're going to open up public comment. any member of the public who wishes to speak, please come to the mike >> good afternoon commissioners. i'm pete i live on greenwich street directly across the steps from the castle. it's a small condo building only 9 unit. so you have to walk out of the steps down to montgomery street every time we're out in that believe we see what is the going on this everyday. the restaurants was closed about 5 and a half years ago it's deteriorated treshl and we're glad to hear mr. scott wants to

do some renovation on the building. because of the long period of no maintenance whatsoever on the building or the yard there has developed really recently a very serious rodent infection we're seeing rats coming across the yard onto the steps you've got tourists coming up and down those steps just last week we're seen rats coming into our yard and a entryway. i want to make sure that mr. scott is ware of that i kind of doubt it. that's incorporated into

whatever renovation is included in the facility. the other thing addresses the comment about the structural integrity of the land there. and while the foundation of the building may very well be intact we've witnessed slippage on the yard that is adjacent to the case he will. earlier this year a large tree had to be cut down because the grounded shifted and pushed the tree over. also there was a brick overhang that went from the steps over to julius castle it collapsed because of no maintenance and

probably the condition of ice it can be turned back into a restaurant we have major concerns about that. we understand we can't restrict the use of that property but there's noise and all those things >> thank you, thank you. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> good afternoon commissioners thank you for taxiing me at this hearing. i want to say on behalf of the architect that has done several historic projects both the city, state, and national level we're down from julius castle. personally as you walk past the case he will i pass by it.