september 5th to the assessment appeals court number 3. >> i believe don is here. >> i want her to come up and - is she not here? she needs two minutes to come here? so i would like for the general public to understand the fine details of what's between the 3 appeal boards. so if the public don't mind i'd like to religious for one minute until sh until she recess.

so you guess recess is over. we're going to continue the meeting so mr. ram would you like to approach the microphone and give a brief summary of the differences >> thank you supervisors. yes dawn duran the applicant for the pelosi board we have 3 different jurisdictions board one has no jurisdiction it can hear any case but primarily they're focused in the downtown financial district. their jurisdiction they have to hear everything over $50 million and all appeals on possessy interest. board two is limited they can't

hear anything over $50 million. they hear appeals within the blocks outside of the financial district. they basically have appeals for blocks 877 to 3 seven hundred and anything above that goes to board 3. the board 3 was recently changed. this is so have it so all 8 seats are now being filled as hearing officers. this was done to help aid the backlog of appeals most of which have been residential properties. we've heard that since the appeals have been residential. the hearing officers are limited to hear for properties 4 or also

and no commercial properties. so for board 3 which is newly comprised hiring we're looking to hopefully get a quorum for that board then have that board begin operation and start hearings specifically for hearing officers in which we will be implementing evening hearings starting with 2 hearings a week hopefully in december >> this is the function of board 3? >> this is board 3. for the evenings >> all the board have 5 regular seats and the regular board in three are in a rotation order and the we need a quorum in order for that board to become prarlg and then, however, many members we have at this junk

which you are we'll be rotating them accordingly for day and ooengz. >> some people have asked we have two assessment appeal boards currently and why a third? >> the boards one and two are the alternatives for board 2 but those are people who are sitting as hearing officers, however, with the current caseload we have the religion members we're still dealing with a lot of commercial property as well it's did the to get the alternates for one-on-one when members are not available because they're also hearing officers. with the new composition of

board 3 we'll be able to schedule more officer cases to address the backlog of appeals and shorten the length of time those hormones b will have to wait it will free up the alternates open boards one and two so we can scheduled important commercial he or she hearings. the goal is to reduce the backlog. we have two years from the date an application is filed to render a decision. we have been averaging been 6 thousand appeals a year and that's a lot. the people at the tail i understand are waiting to hear

their initial hearing date. we're trying to handle the appeals in a more timely manner >> okay. thank you >> any other questions. >> i don't see any. >> i'm sorry to keep you waiting. >> no problem. let me call now the applicants in the order that i see (calling names) >> good afternoon, members of the rules committee i'm shawn. thank you very much for correcting me >> i'm an attorney i have 15 years of experience in the practice of law mostly in civil litigation and a business law. i also served as an arrest

warrant trart so i have experience in ruling on matters. i'm a native of san francisco and i have an interest in serving the community and basically giving back to the city i love and want to see it grow. and i'm interested in serving on the committee. i've applied before so that would definitely show any level of interest in serving. thank you for your time >> thank you. next one up is christen nelson. and thank you, mr. rick for making a brief statement (laughter)

>> good does that mean i can respeak. >> i'm interested in the appeal board. i value being active in the community and i also have a lot of experience in real estate and i thought the assessment board would be good with my experience, knowledge and skills. i've been active in real estate for over 25 years i became an awe perspires. i can be beneficial to the board i would understand as a property owner i would understand those points of view and as i said i think my skills and experience

and expertise would be of a help if you have any questions, we'll be happy to answer them >> you're not on currently. >> no. >> the next speaker john lee is not here and he made an effort to go have a meeting with me at my office. >> he submitted a letter mr. chair. >> he's on the cover of this agent thing just to show he's involved. so next person up then will be eugene >> good afternoon, supervisors i'm e general. i moved to san francisco in

1977. i'm retired as of october 2012 but continue to volunteer with nonprofits here in san francisco and the community. my qualifications include any experience in recent completing 40 years with a private owned real estate company. my experience include and eventually overseeing capita expertise and a acting accusations. i evaluated properties i'm a cpa. i'm interested in doing this work because i have a little bit of time and would aloof love to give back to the city. i think i'm a good caption because of my background and

ownership because i can be thorough and objective. thank you >> okay. any questions. and you forgot to say you were involved in soccer >> good afternoon, supervisors i'm here to seek your reappointment to assessment appeal board number one where i've served 2, 3 year terms. we oversee the downtown properties for which my career is well suited. i was a real estate broker and have 25 years of real estate advisory services nationwide. i retired from a firm called

black rock in new york where we over say 25 now properties. when i retired i had lunch with a former colleague phil. he suggested the appeal boards. i have enjoyed being on that and have awe cemented all the revenue and tax code and the assessment manual. and, in fact, i can help others understand the maudlin. i've worked with don our city attorney and assessor and now chu and their staffs.

kwoild i was what a supervisor last night and will be happy to respond to any questions >> any questions. thank you very much >> how many years have you served. 2, 3 year terms >> and till when you serve on that that i have a few more questions. that's fine >> so maybe you can illustrate or walk me through some of the accomplishments you were able to make in the last 6 years. >> i retired in 07 at the height of the real estate market and, of course, my initial term and part of my second term was seeing the decline in the real estate market. i've had the opportunity to see

every type of declining in property. i think in my background i understand the commercial properties downtown whether they be over or there $50 million. and bill willing to bear with my colleagues the statement board office and most importantly the assessment representatives with whom we've had meetings on how to develop more consistency in they're reporting to the board which is a little bit fragmented early on. i've havnt to work with the members of the assessor offense and in further streamlining how information is brooukt to us how

it can be brought in consistency of formality and a little bit of navel ability so that things are done more efficiently and competently >> so an additional 2 more years you'll accomplish what. >> hopefully 3 years supervisor cowen. >> i hope to further advance the level experience, competent and capability as well as boards 2 and 3 in additionly to meeting with the assessor offices to improve their capacities. >> no further questions mr.

chair. >> thank you next person is ms. shiv. >> hello members of the committee. happy to follow up after joan experience. i want to say i've also had a preeshths for the city of san francisco and would like to help improve the areas. i believe the capacity as a member of the assessment boards i'm an attorney 0 and i have a solid understanding of making informed appeals. and those are dealing with cost findings under the construction and that likewise me to

understand the projects. my involvement in real estate has helped with the residential neighborhoods in both of which are factors in fair market value. as an attorney islam i've developed communication by property owners. i assume the responsibility and hope i'll do my part by serving the community and thank you for your consideration >> thank you. >> any questions. seeing none. thank you very much. next person is mr. collin >> supervisor cowen and breed

and yee pr thank you for your time. and thank you for correcting my name are i find it very difficult for english speaking people to say the name correctly. and i appreciate the correction. i am seeing reappointment to board 2. i've been with the board a number of years and feel that my capabilities are serving the city well on that board. for a number of years i had a small real estate company with a dozen people and we covered the entire city of san francisco commercial residential and industrial portfolios. in addition to that i am a certified appraiser i find my

past experience with the board i believe serves the city well, in that i oftentimes complex issues and the owners of those properties who have grievance at times almost need to be educated on the spot. when they seek redress and i believe that my experience as enabled me to carry the analysis further. are there any questions >> no questions i'm sorry your currently on the board. >> i am. >> how long.

>> you'll have to ask don. >> you don't know. >> i would hesitate giving an exact number of years. >> i see so do i think it's over 5 or 6. >> over 5. >> when you get to the - and a i'm sorry. >> that's okay 6 years. >> he's been i believe this is i know it's his third or fourth reappointment i believe when we first came on board he didn't fulfill a full term at that time. >> so persisting around that 10 years. >> thank you. i have no other questions. >> thank you very much. >> thank you. >> i believe alfred 0 perez will not be here.

>> is he interested or - >> i believe mr. perez sent in an e-mail he was in a all accident. he the state he wasn't going to be able to be here but is interested in reappointment >> i see in my notes he did e-mail. intrifr breed and a are the applicants required to form a form seven hundred when they apply for those - when they apply for this board >> yes. they are. >> so i he was wondering what happened to the form seven hundred for youssef. >> youssef didn't come through

me. i heard he had submitted an application last week >> seven hundred is not insinuated is the practice incomplete. >> supervisors just wanted to inform you that he did submit a form seven hundred after the packet was submitted to the office, however, an e-mail with his form seven hundred was forwarded to each one of our offices and i have a copy. >> was it provided on line in a timely manner to meet the sunshine requirements. >> so long as he provided the application before this hearing he completed the requirement. >> okay. >> excuse me. >> i wasn't sure - the material

on the packet is adequate for the noticing under the sunshine brown act. the additional material after the agenda packet goes out should be made available to the public when received or at the meeting >> okay and a as long as seven hundred is available the committee can review that that i. >> i must have missed it and i rely on what we have in the system and what the public has available oftentimes to obtain the information as well. so you would like to see it before we're able to make decisions. thank you >> i got it. >> thank you. >> i believe - the next person.

ms. during rant i want some clarifications. do i have any contact with this person >> when board 3 was just the comtion was changed i contacted her because she previously applied for a seat and i didn't actually physically talked with her. he returned envy phone call and said she's interested. since that time i've tried k5k9d here on three or four different occasions to inquiry about her interest in board 3 because she filled out on a older application at that time. she's not returned my phone calls >> i don't know if it's good

enough. >> thank you. that's helpful >> and the last person on the list is angela germ. >> thank you so much good afternoon supervisor yee and supervisor breed and cowen and thank you for considering my application. i'm here because i want to express myself why i'm here because i happen not broker i've been since 1992 and way before one year before i graduate from cal state with a b f degree in finance. right after i grate i've been a full-time realtor and i've

focused on san francisco for real estate. and joining a couple of the local firms including firm tran and johnny is my coworker. and after that so i had an opportunity to open my own broeshlg firm and now i have another brokerage firm opened. under 1 hundred percent of ownership. i have experience from ail those years from the economy going up and down and also i also managing more than almost thirty units including condominiums and commercial throughout the city. also focusing in financial

district all the condos all the ones downtown and including the listening no one towers and also i'm so grateful to have the opportunity to represent the investors to purchase two development sites in san francisco. one is in pacific you heights the lubrication reduce - we're getting the building permits and it's broken ground in 2 to 3 months arrest also, we have another one coming up in selma the united states about 60 to 70 units it's a condo project and we're going in the process of obtaining entitlement.

my career is from small condo unit to commercial and a big projects. now, it's my time i think it's about time for me to serve the community. my son has grown up and i have more free time for any community. because of envy career i'm used to work with flexible schedule i can work daytime and night time i do the management of my own time. i hope i have the opportunity to work with the community and city of san francisco >> so i notice that your application is to fill an

alternative seat is there a reason why just a regular seat and because i received the e-mail was for the alternative i believe. >> if you had an opportunity to fill a regular seat would i - >> absolutely. >> any other questions okay. seeing none. any public comment on this it ? item?. is this correct can the public be a comment >> the commitments can speak during the period is not during the public comment period. >> any other individuals who may want to make comment? ? seeing none, public comment is closed.

i - there's lots of applicants here and lots of seats for the 3 boards. and in anticipation of all those candidates and seats i wanted to see if we can move those items quickly. i looked at the seats and individual. i know at least for the people i've met and the people who have come to speak i feel their qualified people. so for the person the one person that we try to make contact with and there was no response we'll not support her at is