do count spaces and how many will be used and that information should be there. >> do you think it's enough to tip it into a higher level of environmental review? >> i will have to wait to see the analysis if it's done? >> you have analyzed that, haven't you? it's your job. >> i have analyzed the environmental review and they lacked those discussions that you are bringing up now. it's not in front of you. >> you don't have an opinion about losing some parking spots and could tip this into a higher level of environmental review? >> not in that singular context. >> mr. avalos. >> thank you, mr. president. i appreciate the comments from mr. wiener. i want to ask you a

couple of follow up questions. this project is not in my district, but sort of like sarah palin can see russia from her state, i can see this project from my district right across the street and unfortunately i don't know that there was a lot of outreach done on the district 9 side around this project. so what i'm trying to understand is i understand that one of the options that you are pointing to is the remedy of having the full environmental impact report which i think is a pretty high bar. but can you explain other alternatives in terms of modifying or clarifying the negative debt what exactly do you mean boo i that? what would that look like? >> that would inaccurate to the

department so they can make it complete and inaccurate to include the discussions which of the important issues which we brought up. >> i have to say that that's something that i certainly have a concern about. i certainly support a lot of changes that are happened on the parkletts on the valencia but i do think that it's important in terms of having a complete environmental analysis to make sure that those changes are taken into account. so i understand that point. one of the elements specifically that would be new to that negative declaration. what are specific things that you think are missing. i just want to understand the litany

of things you are talking about. >> the entire environmental document relies almost exclusively on conclusions that are not supported or substantiated by any evidence that includes parking traffic, circulation, loss of transit, the visual impact, noise, i know that's a very important issue. this site is also a former gas station. there are concerns of whether or not there is an underground storage tank on-site. there was a small snippet of removal of contaminated soil. in the summer signs went up and stickers went up that they were

going to dig out an underground storage tank and it did not happen. so it maybe on site. >> colleagues, any additional questions. let's hear from members of the public who wish to speak in support of the appellants appeal. please lineup on the right hand side. each public member has 2 minutes. let's hear from the first speaker. >> sir, you are the first speaker unless you don't want to be. this gentleman can be the first speaker. >> good evening. i'm homeless. i am 82 years old, jew from

russia. who survived holocaust and world war ii. now for 2 weeks i'm sleeping on the streets very nice in 82 years to sleep on the street. i'm sleeping on the street because our -- stop and our police, you don't know. i know german police. in san francisco police act like -- i saw how 5 police beat a patient in the general hospital. i believe they killed

this man. i believe the san francisco police. >> next speaker, please. >> richard grassity. just been use of my public time here to follow up on a few items that the supervisors asked questions about. rather than giving a presentation i planned i was going to respond to the questions of what additional studies might be included if the initial study were to be redone. i would say look at the physical aspects of parking and look at views from private property, nous not just public

property. another one to look at shadows from private product and significance of temporary impact. if a shadow is temporary shall it doesn't mean it's not significant. another one would be to look at the other neighbors. so you look at what does an 80-decibel noise and what are the affects. it's not there. as the materials were mentioned with regard to the tank and with the cumulative impacts. they do address that. if you look at the document it doesn't talk about. it identifies the cumulative projects. for example. the cumulative

project, the reason is the cumulative impacts developed over time. what's the ceqa is about. instead of the document saying it's a project, that's what cumulative project is for is to look at the scale project. >> thank you very much, members of the public you will hear a soft bell which indicates you have 30 seconds and then the latter bell. thank you, next speaker. >> these are the for the supervisors. >> the clerk will pick them up for you. >> hello, i'm stephanie wise man from the marsh. thank you for letting us speak today. everyone who is here from the marsh hills please stand up to let you know the public support for this. also that i know that i have sent out propose

mitigation issues to everyone. i want that to be put on the record and we have 105 letters here in addition to whatever else you have in support of the marsh. so, the marsh is one of the most fertile environments there is. it's up to its make the mosaic environmentally. it's the most theatrical vep u in the san francisco and bay area for the past 24 years and the solo performance venues in the world to develop it. you can check out the pink section, you will see in the 10 reviews, two of the reviews are for us if not 5. as a significant culture in san francisco, the

marsh needs to be protect from the proposed development, noise and sound and vibration is in this concept. art #57d innovation is a huge part of what makes this area that needs to be protected. we ask that you look at these things so we can be protected from any financial lose caused boo i this proposed development. and that we are designated as a sensitive receptor. thank you very much. please contact me if you have any questions. >> next speaker. >> good afternoon supervisor. i'm charlie, i'm a resident at the marsh work are there for 22

years, play right, performer and director. the shows i have put on the marsh have attracted thousands of people to the valencia corridor. it an -- anchor in the mission district. it's a treasure in our city. we are talking about environmental quality. the marsh is the part of the san francisco cultural and now historic environment. we have a developer who has not respect that and who has not approached with respect to these hours. if i had confidence that this developer would look out for the interest of our theatre, i would not be here. but i do not have that confidence. so here we are late in the game at the ceqa phase trying to figure out a way

forward. we do not wish to have nothing built at that corner. what we is something built that will respect the neighborhood, will respect our theatre and will not come in with the goal of purely maximizing profit with the with respect to neighborhood and culture. thank you. >> my name is audrey. my relationship to marsh is my mom is stephanie wise man. she has brought me into the theatre life and the theatre has made me who i am today. on that note, when you are performing, you want the quietness and the help from those around you. you don't want construction sound.

there are pesticides and chemicals. when you are in this show of performance you want to be heard and you want to be focused on. if you can yourself deal with having someone hearing your stories. you don't want to hear jack hammers and you don't want to have the walls vibrating and you don't want the code violations of those places or for the san francisco being violated because if it happens you are going to have to do more construction and that will have more issues toward the performances as well. when you are moving in the theatre you want your body in the theatre motion. if you perform something a number of times, construction sound from the construction can throw you off and makes the audience extremely hard to hear you.

>> my name is sherriesteiner with the a little bit liberty. with 12 units and no garnls but in case we don't find enough people who want those kind of condos without cars, we are going the give them parking p because the neighborhood doesn't care. the neighborhood cares. it's a horrible impact on us and the whole idea that it not going to be a significant is by somebody who doesn't live there. i also feel

as a historic district person that it's ridiculous to have this kind of a building come in with no historic attitude towards a design or the concept that we are going to have 12 tiny units which means no families. the elderly or the disabled are not going to be able to drive to the hospital or whatever they need to do by car because no parking except that you can get your parking permit and park on the street. i live in a historic building that does not have a garage. i park on the street because i have to. that doesn't mean we continue this kind of development with a 12-unit building which has such an impact on the neighborhood. this is a neighborhood killer building.

>> president chiu and supervisors, good afternoon. i have lived in san francisco since 1983. i have been attended the marsh performances since 1989. it's my favorite destination for arts that are entertaining, prove -- provocative and powerful. on the other hand the marsh is ir replaceable. it's truly one of a kind throughout the united states. as such anything that impacts the marsh impacts the quality of life in san francisco. consider the marched as you would an endangered species. it coexist with the

neighbors in a way thatten insures the contribution of the san francisco landmark are preserved forever. thank you. >> next speaker. >> president chiu and supervisor. i'm a native of san francisco and work for the san francisco chronicle for 34 years. in that capacity i came to witness stephanie wise man and over the years she had become one of the premier solo entertainers of the world. my association with the theatre continued after i left the chronicle. over the last 5 yaers i found the marsh a valuable resource for learning

and performance and access to a variety of different performing formats. i believe the marsh theatre is unique and valuable in san francisco cultural entity that warrants full protection and care. to the extent that the city provides. >> it is an absolute historical treasure. it is so important to

developing new solo artist. and the sound that will come from this new building must be regulated and clearly defined so the marsh's performances are not interrupted, that no one is complaining about anything about the marsh because the marsh is a wonderful place. and i just can't be they are not going to have a garage that boggles my mind. i must say. and as one who may not be driving too much longer i will

know that it will make it impossible for all the traffic this last to be taken care of. thank you. >> thank you, next speaker. >> my name is annette roman. i have been take -- taking classes at the marsh. i have heard personal stories at the marsh about working as a bus driver, about native americans, italian americans, african americans, korean americans as marsh performers. watching in a solo and hearing a families most intimate stories. i don't know how to relate to people

different from ourselves. these stories at the marsh are more quiet. my own stories are about the families at the holocaust. i performed in theatres in canada. i performed at screeching car alarms and shouting drunks. it would be impossible to tell my story of the legs of war if the lines are filled with the lines of construction and people outside a theatre. it's not just a selfish thing on my part. most of the theatres in san francisco are areas so gritty that only theatre performers would go there. the marsh is a

unique source. please allow them to continue to put on a really good show. >> next speaker. >> my name issance -- an -ance -- i don't understand how this project could have gone so far. this is the best to marsh to opera or symphony. but somehow it is believed that marsh is indispensable which is

not. this project, should have got the marsh as a sensitive user and the protection should have put in. i have been there coming to this show sense 80s. and it's totally unacceptable that this is happening. i don't know how legally it's working out but the project should go back to the drawing board at all possible production to be done to this theatre. if you have not been to the theatre i would urge you to go. thank you very much. >> my name is reese a. four 1/2

years ago the city took position to this district. then designated most buildings on valencia as historic. catherine moore said this should be someway of dealing with sites like this. she suggested stepping down the heights to somehow consider the street scapes. surely this is a place where those guidelines should seek precedence. for a development that maintains the cohesive neighborhood identity, preserves historic resources and enhances the unique character of this city. truly

this building, twice as tall as it's neighbors is an important historic district neighborhood and community. the special quantities that make the mission attractive and vibrant are disappearing. artist, writers and musicians and families renters can no longer afford to live here. our cultural environment is being negatively impact by the lack of affordable housing these developments have produced. much has been driven out by escalating rents. we are asking you to use your discretion, there are as many laws, codes and rules in this city that support our appeal. and we hope that you do as well. thank you.

a -- good afternoon. i'm the director of the program, marsh theatre. in.yt provides high quality theatre classes to 200 student at the marsh and at the san francisco public schools. all of our on-site classes are on a sliding scale. we are supported by the california arts council. in regards to the well being of the children to the marsh program. nyy classes take place monday through friday and 8-5 monday through friday where up to 50 children attend at once. many children

come at once. so i hope extra precautions will be taken to protect them. the second concern is noise. student actors have small voices and need to be on stage. if heavy construction noise is heard through windows, potential partying and noise could be detrimental to our learning process. the third is the tolerance from the program on the outside. nyt events are noisy and spilling into the streets. we want to make sure the new residents are supportive of our environment. myt started 12 years ago. many of those students no longer live in san francisco and have moved to south san francisco and in fact noerng eligible for the support we have because we are no longer residents of san

francisco. i think we need to be conscious and consider the. >> good afternoon. i'm an art teacher from the marsh. i'm work in other two organizations in the mission neighborhood. and a neighborhood with a lot of art and culture. it's sad to see they are very hurt. i'm a accurateor for the mission projects. i'm afraid this that will keep happening when these people are not tolerant to the

culture of the mission. thank you. >> i'm a resident of the mission. although i'm a resident of the mission i would just note that the supervisor district right now valencia street and i live in supervisor wiener's side. however this issue strikes at the heart of the mission. i hope that we will in your deliberations on the topic consider strongly this development affect on the mission. i personally consider and i have the right. i voted. i consider this to the the 8 washington development on valencia. it's extremely unpopular among it's neighborhood and will have an impact of those that are there and inconsistently surrounding and in terms of the issue of

parking and there is 12 spaces lost to parkletts. it's not that the parking a lot near valencia is gone. and the parking lot at the public parking lot at on bartlett that one section is reserved for monthly parkers and that is not available for people who come and go, and finally of course we are not talking about a few parking spaces on bartlett street. we are talking about a block of parking. these are real skwaenld and affect the long-term residents who live there. i hope when you now consider the eir report, please look at it. tl mr. williams has already pointed out that it's factually inaccurate. how can a body consider a document if the facts of the document are inaccurate and