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in terms of safety and that sort of thing. i submit the asbestos report those areas of work are regulated by dbi. they have requirements for how led and asbestos are handled. they required special contractors to handle it. the owner is a professional management company. they own a number of property buildings and their xirnd in the work. they're not a mom and pop operation. they have standard safety codes on all their work. there's no safety issue for the
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tenants. oh, with that i'll be happy to answer any questions. i also have the permit holder here if you want to question him about anything >> is it your clients position that none of the work that's permitted will require many vacancy or temporary relocation. >> yes. >> and the other question i have and may not be i'm just curious. the - these - the work that's on the permits to be performed and the cost of the stucco and all the defy attaches work done would that be passed to the tenants with retina increases
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>> i don't know. >> madam president and board members we have no intention of passing those costs onto the tenants nor b do we have a history of that. >> in your brief you referenced a notice that was given to a tenant that signed the lease subsequent and you say it's attached to an exhibit. >> it was actually submitted to the board a day late. i didn't see it under the submission >> we've given you 7 copies. >> so you have a copy for the appellant.
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>> i e-mailed it but i'll be happy to give him one. >> please. so it is your position you gave the proper closures. >> i have a question. i see that the chronology when was the roof work done to the building >> the cat is on the contract it's march 27. oh, yeah, i'll let dave speak to that >> i can speak better i was involved in the beginning. the roof work was done the work of april 1st and the contract was signed on the 27. the exiting tenant moved out he
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was a long-term resident over 25 years. this particular roof was only accessible from unit one and so it was during the process of that small rare that we discovered significant dry rot and that's what started this process >> thank you. thank you >> okay. thank you >> mr. t. >> this permit was approved over the creditor by the staff because didn't require public notification. >> mr. duffey. >> commissioner the building
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permit seemed to be approved properly it was for stucco replacement and the windows on the issues regarding the lead or asbestos we require those measures to be taken to protect you see the north open the scaffolding they have to do the proper cleaning up. we would send out someone from the asbestos department and but i don't see anything on the permit that deals with code issues >> public comment on this item. please stipulate forward >> hello.
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my name is linda i live in apartment 3 on fulton street. i moved in july 1st of this year. when we first viewed the apartment the landlord said it would be two weeks and they were going to replace the window. two months after i moved in i got a notice and this project was an xeefb construction that would take months. on this notice i don't know if i should try - >> put that on the overhead >> but it said it would take 5
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months. i sent him my out country and he responded a few weeks later saying that he had forewarned me about this and that same day he posted another letter on envy door and says oh, you knew about this and in that same afternoon i received an e-mail from another attorney representative prior to you're moving into the apartment i ask you to please sign this discolor. the one i signed said it was directly against this note that said january. after this i looked up transmit
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it they have another building where they had to live through a construction and every morning people lived through this they woke up at the 7:00 a.m. and it went on actually 5:00 p.m. i love looking at at the golden gate park. but i couldn't look at it there's construction guys walking by >> thank you. >> and i also have a notice that said there's asbestos in the building. >> thank you. any other public comment?
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>> right here. good evening president of the board i'm hanging and i live in apartment 3 in this building we moved in july 1st, 2013, despite itself higher that rent we normally pay for the size of apartments we live in we rent anyway because of it's location and the quiet peaceful neighborhood and a beautiful view and not far away from the beach. and with the great air to match. i have a severe allergy and i love living there. i'm working at night. envy shift is 5:00 p.m. and ends
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midnight. i need to rest during the day and spined the time at home doing errands. i learned from the window only replacing it for two weeks that was mentioned before we moved in. we were shocked and cuffed didn't know what to do. we were hearing about the 5 hundred complaints that the horror stories people having to go through those renovations. my best friend went through this hell many years ago. for the same management. the banking on the wall and the dust and a toxic agents.
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paint fumes and captive fumes and invading of our privacy and our heightened is endangered. we don't want to wear a mask in our own home nevertheless, we don't want to seal ourselves inside the window in closed containment for the construction. to i agree you have to do modification on our home or renovation but please don't do it at our expense. and being exposed to strangers outside the windows during construction. we had a chance to we talk about it we asked for a resolution and they say there's nothing we can do about it.
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i asked if we can cancel or move to a temporary property. so i plead plead plead to the members of the board please deny approval of this permit and a don't let them to force us to live through those construction in a poor environment. thank you >> thank you. any public comment? >> good evening, members. i'm a rent of san francisco and i and other two in unit one is also in san francisco and we come from china and we render this house because it is quiet and the location is very good and we can go to school every
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morning. the english is not our first language. we tried to learn because we need to stay a long time to stay at home. so if the trinity it must take a lot of noise it will effect our status. so from in my opinion it's from one month or two months is fine. we can go to elaborate and start in school but it takes 5 months it's too long. we can't - so if we can't get good grades it's with our money and it's a waste of time.
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thank you >> excuse me. >> you want to state your name for the record. >> my name is chang. >> i have a question, sir. were you present when you signed the agreement with the property manager >> no. envy roommates sign it and he come back to me and tell me about it >> so the signatures here are not your signatures. >> any public comment? >> didn't go madam president and members of the board. i'll take a moment to introduce myself i'm a buddhist priest and i live in apartment 4 of the
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trinity apartment building on fulton street over 4 years. i'm known on the street of san francisco as retrieved i have a nonprofit that provides hundreds of hours of services a women's place shelter and many residential hotels. i'm the meditation teacher at glide church and every christmas i join you outside city hall for people who have died homeless on our streets. due to the high stress work i had a quiet life t is essential. but from a disturbed neighbor i
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went to hospital and came home to a hospital bed in any living room and a silence caused by the death of my poor neighbor that were from all this i have end up with miejz and other ailments like post distress disorder. my case therefore is very simple we received 10 days notice in september from trinity management they were about to surrender our apartment building with scarf folding and to do construction on the roof and exterior walls and the garage. everything apart from those thin exterior walls. my context migraines are
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horrible. when my doctor sent all this information to trinity lawyers and asked to be housed somewhere quote they relied there were no other apartments available and no where to be rehoused and their constructions work would not be anymore allowed than street noise. i have to speed up a bit. the great thing about all of this the silver lining i've met all those would have young people anthony have made a beautiful home everybody moved ♪ the last few months. don't let us losses the right to the quiet enjoyment of our homes
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especially during christmas season >> thank you. any public comment? seeing none, then we will start with the rebuttal and mr. burn you have 3 minutes. >> to go back on the problem that was posed for the construction work on december 9th that was seven months after the stucco work we agreed with the construction we know it hazard to happen and the building owner has to protect they say investment but not at our expense. that's it >> have you or any of your tenants friends here going gone to the rent board or tried other
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alternative ways to get address. >> we've contacted the rent board. we also asked trinity if they would come to an agreement with us and they don't want to. they don't actually respond to occupier e-mails >> okay. thank you. is there time left there. if you want to give some time to - >> i've also been in touch with the independent living that resource center they also contracted the trinity lawyers and said i couldn't live through this noise with my medical condition they were given the same answers theirs in way to
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relocate us and treasurer we're to tolerate that noise. i think it's rather unethical that people just moved into those houses without being told who was gotten to happen the roof and garage the only thing they're not fixing is the one thing i want fixed is a thin internal walls. so, please we know this construction has to happen. we do not find ourselves able to live through this project and hope that trinity will come and make some kind of offer to us to survive this project. thank you very much >> mr. silverman you have 3 minutes. >> i just wanted to take an
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opportunity during the rebuttal to refute some of the inaccuracy. the management was sympathetic to our tenants particularly when we undertake a project such this. there's references to asbestos being in the lease this is a prior 1979 we're required to acknowledge there could be the presence of as best material in the property. before we've begun any part of the demo we've tested. there's prop 65 that is required by the state there would be car gents around the property. this is what we're duo to acknowledge in our leases.
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there's been no effort to mislead the residents that were i'm intimately involved in the roof repair to the moment we discovered dry rot and brought in the drooshths do a substantial upgrade all the way through contract signatures to the process. ultd i think this is a small 5 unit prompt. we have resident with concerns about noise and dust all concerns that are relevant and all concerns that are present in any project when any property is upgraded. if there are specific needs for
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special dmoomthsz there are special court claims that with accommodate those but it has nothing to do with this. the building is in desperate annoyed of those repairs. this property was built in 1963 and had has no significant upgrades. we're not doing anywhere than we have 80 do. we're only to accommodate the residents. i'll take any questions >> go ahead. >> so first yee question was the tenant that moved in july 1st. >> uh-huh. >> so equivalent the work that was needed to be done they were aware of so they said they were notified there would be windows.
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>> i mean, i see kind of a problem with that one. second of all those students i see the form hero was there any effort since english was a second language your property managers last time is communicating don't he speak moaning dress >> i will tell you at the end of the may we still doesn't know the extent of the repairs that were required. we're in the process of doing the diligence and discovery dui so we created a non-disclosure agreement and it was dated the construction would go through
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april of 2014 not knowing when it would start of finish. with regard to the resident that moved ♪ july we were told according to their testimony the windows would be replaced for two weeks i was there then >> you can answer the questions regarding the construction; right? >> right. >> it's noted it another trinity property has work done from 7:00 a.m. by many, many people and according to this 8 to 5, 6, 7 and a absolutely that's another inaccuracy. we don't start work until 8:00 a.m. normally we give a discolor from
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8 to 5 but donates a 8 to 5 project >> my final question is since wore coming on winter the property is compromised to the elements and it's going to be difficult to do the type of work you're doing in this type of condition. >> it certainly presents challenges. we hope to be through the demo fees part of the gin contract was to do the building weather a proofing but again, we have challenged >> any remedies at this point. >> we're not going 80 leave the building in a continuing condition it costs more money. 22 van water had similar issues
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around the same age and a ideal scope of work. we went through a torrent e rental adopt poor u pour and no part of the structure is left open to the elements. absolutely not >> you couldn't answer envy first question i'd like address them to mr. silverman. >> so do you remember the questions the first kwae question was the parties moved in july 1st yet there's no discolor in our briefs indicating they were made aware of this type of rams was going to take place. >> the timeline as i understand it back in may the roofing
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contractor started work on the roof. in the course of that he discovered some dry rot of the unstuck stucco and it was communicated to the tenant >> i see from the students it says 5 slash 26 but the tenants came in july and i don't see their disclosure in the briefs. >> their responsibilities to that commissioner is that we don't have a disclosure on record for those residents so it's an oversight and so it's plausible that there was window repairs that would be dunn done
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in two weeks. >> i wasn't present but i interpret that to be window work that's where you're inside a unit and windows go back in we have to patch and a paint and a leave it in the same condition. >> i understand p.i. but that initial side to be done to a building but my concern was proper disclosure was not given to the tenants that are paying be market are we talking about that have to ensure the sound like and dust and lack of privacy. the concern is students english is their second language so envy concern if that was explained to them where they properly understood
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>> that i can't say but their signatures are on the lease agreement. >> so - >> can i add one thing it that response in terms of. >> what are you ron to. >> the question from the commissioner. in terms of rain approaching i think it's important to note in the absence of the appeal we'll be hugh through the project by now. that was no doing of the property owner and a second of all i'm not clear on what the tenant expect of the property owner if he didn't do any of the repairs they would be well workplace they were reporters to
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