this business is not new in the neighborhood. it's trying to enhance. so if people think it's new in the neighborhood it isn't and that's my comment >> i'd like to add that in order to grant this permit they have to do at least one outreach. okay. and that's one of the conditions and secondly >> a friendly amendment. >> yes. and it's not that i thought this was new but the entertainment permit is new. >> so it sounds like there's a proposal i don't know if it's friendly. >> i keep telling you it is. >> so i the maker of the motion accepts that. >> ando a second. >> okay. so the motion so to

approve conditionally and so have the applicant do one meeting. >> on that motion. commissioner lee. commissioner joseph. commissioner hyde >> so let's move into our next permit hotel permit. >> their requesting a hotel permit downtown off union square for wedding and celebrations corporate events and central station supports this event with conditions. >> thank you. speak into the one on our right >> can i plug this in to the

microphone? >> while michael is setting up my friends at the hotel asked me to assist in the outreach process and we did the outreach in the packet. we reached out to the polk association and lines for district of the union square b.i.d. and north of market and the police department and observes and we got requests and alliance for the presentation on the 6th was made. the b.i.d. called me and said they required no presentation >> great, thank you.

>> i finally, figured out the sound drive. so as mentioned those were an existing exemplify the hotel and we're applying to the entertainment we can have live music at the hotel for wedding and private fire department's and on the weekend and so on. we did the necessary paperwork and i make sure it was correctly filed in and it was for october. those were there meeting rooms we're small. i will show you 3 meeting to give you an idea of what we're looking at. this is not changing the use but to have will music. the hotel went through a $7 million rams and we're trying to get more guest and have to

control any noise or 10u7bd issues it would upset our aprons so that would be detrimental to our own business. i have some photos to show you real quick. this is the exterior from the building its from 18929 believe. ? one of our smaller building on the 16th floor

this is from the exterior of the will building and this is our event space on the 16 floor this is the 3 meeting we're considering. i worked with david and partnered with him and making sure we reached out to the local entity and i've got letters from the nearby hotel the cliff hotel from across the street and another hotel in the same block and the california hotel that's on the other side of the 16th and jones a local market across the street and also the apartment that are the closest to us across the parking lot. and approve from everybody and

the support. so with david reaching out i at the end obtain november 12th for an alliance allocates 230 eddy and went to this melting and had no negative comments from them. as i mentioned earlier it's not to create a club scene that would take away from our atmosphere >> thank you. i had the one question what's the capacity of those rooms they don't look big. >> we can put 70 to 80 people per event. >> sow how do you prompt the space to be rent. >> the person in my sales department her job is to reach

out for wedding and anniversary parties and private events and daylight event she'll be promoting the space. >> commissioners joseph. >> i've actually par take of our bar. i mean this was a couple of after newer event like at the cliff and whatever and people would like go off to the bar it's reacting and nice. you've never had a dj in. bar every >> i've been there a month and never. >> where were you before. >> i used to run the b w. >> commissioner lee. there's no permit; right? i didn't see any speakers >> we have all the permits to play the background music. >> that's all?

>> you're letting the client bring in their own. >> yeah. they bring their own equipment and so who is doing the sound you have a certain vendor you use all the time. >> yeah. we go to the marriott hotels they're a big company they have power point presentations and microphone systems. >> basically the client has to use them correct. >> that's traditional we are not set up for that we don't have our microphone system. >> how do you had a sound check when there's no sound. >> that's a good question. >> that's something we can discuss that's part of the permit you have to have a sound

system to check. >> i'd like to make a comment pr i'm familiar with what mr. pass is talking about. it really is in speakers and small speaker systems and i would imagine that anything they put in there for a wedding would be below any of our sound ordinance i'm familiar with the company that they would use. it's really low profile flat speakers >> i'm pretty much you're not going to disturb the other aprons. there's no sound system so other than what you have in our walls >> i think it's typical the sound like system is certain

volume and usually background music and you have another company put it in. in the lobby didn't a publish system used to be there that spates used to be an evenly closed one. so it's a pretty enclosed one with no access into the lobby >> okay we've heard enough for now we're going to bring up police if they want. >> hello steve arrest the only thing we've asked for and i've spoken to mr. pace during the visit there is basically as well as adhering to the entertainment good neighbor policy that the staff needs to be trained and

they're actually tips trained which is very, very similar pretty much interchangeable. so central station be notified of the event. it's more during a new year's eve parties or st. pacific day party >> thank you. any questions for the officer. no. okay thanks. we are going to go ahead and start taking public comment i have one speaker card. then whoever just great there's another comment. >> hi, i'm jerald banks. i got a chance and i got to meet

the manager of the alliance 6 he gave a great presentation and i know it would be great he did reach out on gary street down towards market where i live. so i would ask you to give him his entertainment permit >> thank you. next up kevin carol. >> good evening. i'm the executive director of the hotel council it's nice to be here again. the hotel is a member of our organization. you can see by the presentation that michael made he's someone that works with the community. michael has that hotel is assisting the committee and

they've hosted other events recognizing our employees in the hotel industry. we recently finished an impact report and 70 percent of our employees live and work in the city. and the hotels support the economy there that as well. michael serves on the hotel and foundation board that raises money for hospitalized pistol and a sclarpdz michael is the president and he's about that a leader. as michael mentioned the hospitality industry is a industry that looked at gaps around us the hotels have careful because of the guest xrerps and you can post on hotel.com any type of noise and

they did. and michael and the hotel has done a good job and i encourage you to move this permit >> any public comment on this item?. all right. seeing none, public comment is closed. commissioners happy to take a motion >> i move to approve with police companies. >> second. >> great any further discussion? if not let's take it for a vote >> on the motions to approve with police conditions (calling names) moved. >> congratulations. we're going to move on to our next item that's really a closed item section 4, 5497 and an

admin code we are going to do a employee evaluation so we're going to have everyone please we the appropriately report and review of the executive director and it came out very positive. and so that's what i would like to put on the record >> is there a second it to that. >> i'll second. >> any public comment on this item? all right. i don't see any. >> same house, same call? . yep >> so our last couple of agenda item commissioners, comments or questions commissioner hyde. >> so i just wanted to say that today audrey and i did our follow-up at club malibu and they're definitely working on

things and we'll see results with that. i think we're aisle problems and mr. dick is really good for them and it will be much better. saturday night because we've been depreciating complaints from neighborhood from 1015 over the halloween that weekend i went by at the 11, 12 and 2 and watched how they dispersed the crowd. they do a really good job and the problems were purely halloween. i just wanted to say i did that on saturday night. and i think a that's it. >> great commissioner joseph. >> processed for submissions for the main stage pride is now

open. you know a great local band or someone that might want to submit and possibly be chosen to perform at the san francisco provide the date is sunday, saturday june 28th and sunday june 29th. great any other comments or questions from commissioners >> yeah. i wanted to make sure that all people get the outreach guidelines. i understand it's new so i wanted to make sure. >> great any other commissioner comments or questions. if not we can take public comment. seeing none, wool move to our final item for future calendar or agenda items >> i want to staff to contact

commissioner chiu's to present exactly what this legislation which is ultimately a moratorium and in north beach so we understand it since it effects the venues that we regulate. >> i'll to second that it's open my list good. >> go ahead commissioners and the first tuesday in january, i want to have a small discussion on 10 b here. i don't want - i think i'd like staff to help me focus this so it's not just a complaint. i talked to supervisor weiner today and they're going forward with looking at outdoor permits and stuff like that. they want to have a discussion we don't have to take action.

as long as you're open to having a discussion between us first and talk about the implications of anothers program the 10 b assignment to understand it. it's something that the sfpd is in charge of. we'll move from there to talk about performance i get what you're saying so long as we can have an open dialog and have the police department speak to us because we'd be speaking to ourselves >> i'd like the police department to be here. >> you can't can you ask you what about the 10 b program do

you want to focus on new. >> justice some of the issues that have been brought up they feel they don't have a voice on and i don't think beyond the scope 4i6 it would be good to have a discussion. >> what don't they have a voice on in relation to 10 b for permits. do we ever put a condition on our permits >> no but the local captain does. the captain makes the recommendations. so either captain or commanders whatever >> but we never put it on the condition of the permits so that's. >> those are people we're permitting that are being affected in various ways and i

think it's important that we take their concerns serial especially, when they take the time and three or four organized contact me and say they're having a difficulty and want to be heard we have a responsibility as well. >> i here you but i'm kurt's what's the difficulty. >> i want them to say it. i think - i don't want to get into the discussion here it's not an agenda decided item >> why can't we have them come and explain the procure. a lot of people don't know what 10 b is what the normal question and practice is >> i have a question i mean it seems to me similar going to the fire department and saying we have an issue with.

>> the fire marilyn. >> yeah the fire marshall we're not going to change the rules. >> i'm not asking for it to be an action item. >> oh. >> we owe the people to be heard. we're responsible to hear them >> so i think commissioner lee's suggestion is pretty good we can ask the police department to come and talk to us maybe commissioner hyde may say here's the presentation heros our issues. could we try to get them to come and explain to us >> i'd like to say the supervisor avalos is interested in having us talk about this.

it's something i've wanted to discuss like in a year and a half. maybe it's a good idea. >> so this is new business for the future. >> first of january. >> (laughter). >> just another note we'll be scalding the december 16th meeting so note that commissioners. any new items on the agenda? all right. any public comment seeing none. that wraps up our meeting. thank you our your our meeting is now adjourned. happy

>> i have 2 job titles. i'm manager of the tour program as well as i am the historyian of city hall. this building is multifaceted to say the very least it's a municipal building that operates the city and county of san francisco. this building was a dream that became a reality of a man by the name of james junior elected mayor of san francisco in 1912. he didn't have a city hall because it was destroyed in the earth wake of 1906.

construction began in april of 1913. in december 1915, the building was complete. it opened it's doors in january 1916. >> it's a wonderful experience to come to a building built like this. the building is built as a palace. not for a king or queen. it's built for all people. this building is beautiful art. those are architecture at the time when city hall was built, san francisco had an enormous french population. therefore building a palace in the art tradition is not unusual. >> jimmie was an incredible

individual he knew that san francisco had to regain it's place in the world. he decided to have the tallest dome built in the united states. it's now stands 307 feet 6 inches from the ground 40 feet taller than the united states capital. >> you could spend days going around the building and finding something new. the embellishment, the carvings, it represents commerce, navigation, all of the things that san francisco is famous for. >> the wood you see in the board of supervisor's chambers is oak and all hand carved on

site. interesting thing about the oak is there isn't anymore in the entire world. the floors in china was cleard and never replanted. if you look up at the seceiling you would believe that's hand kof carved out of wood and it is a cast plaster sealing and the only spanish design in an arts building. there are no records about how many people worked on this building. the workman who worked on this building did not all speak the same language. and what happened was the person working next to the other person respected a skill a skill that

was so wonderful that we have this masterpiece to show the world today. >> good morning, today is wednesday, november 20, 2013, this is the regular meeting of the building inspection commission, i would like to remind everyone for please turn off all electronic devices. the first item on the agenda is roll call. >> president mccarthy? >> here. >> mar? >> here. >> lee? >> here. >> commissioner mccray. >> here. >> commissioner walker. >> here. >> commissioner clinch is excused and commissioner melgar is expected. we have a quorum and the next item is president's announcements. >> good morning and thank you all for coming and forgive for starting late but we are waiting on one of the commissioners who should join

us here real soon, my president announcements, many thanks to the dbi staffers joseph chan, and perez and ron dicks who represented the department at the annual china town resource fair on saturday, november 2, there was an excellent turn out and many questions about dbi process was responded to by the dbi staff there. and so thank you. >> thank you to senior building inspection joe duffy of inspection services who received a thank you letter from customer shirley, and presenting himself in a professional manner, so well done joe. so a big thank you to the record management staff who received a letter, from (inaudible) commanding them, and commending them for the great customer service skills and a job well done, kutos to the record management staff who received a thank you letter from wo slin and forgive me for

not pronouncing the names for the customer service, acknowledging that the entire staff under the leader hip of herera and including benji and maggie and simpson, and valesia and deron also included in that. thank you. and we will hear more details later in the meeting, and i do want to make you aware of the fact that there will be hands on testing of the new permit and project tracking system on december 17th by members of the citizens advisory group, the group was established by dbi and planning last year. and last year, to obtain the user input on the features of new ppts to enable the fine turning prior to our going live date early next year, so please note that on november 21st, from five to 7:00 p.m., dbi will host the third workshop for the owners of the building that fall