inclusion of the south east neighborhood? >> yes. options that will be more readily able to facilitate that type of design, for the south east and the west side or the lower density areas and verses the option that will be more constrained and difficulty. and it will have more difficulty in accommodating those kinds of features. >> okay. >> so that is a lot of fancy words. >> okay. >> i just want to know that we are not being left off. >> we will address that concern coming up in the sar. >> okay. >> and thank you. >> and plant is to be sure that we can build the system across san francisco and the region, but this sar is also just looking at governments because their air quality diblgt right now is providing the back stop for government and don't expect the district to continue that work and we want to be able to look at it and what the are the options for the entity to

provide that and but with the great interest on the commission to be able to and across the city to be able to expand to the neighborhoods and mine is not part of the process yet and yours should be as well and i think that we are committed to commissioner lee has expressed to the board and looking at expansion across the city as well. >> commissioner mar did you have comments? >> yeah, our microphones are not working here, or the button to alert you. i just want to say that i think that this analysis is important so that we can look at how to spread it. and more strategickly and i know that when supervisor wean and her avalos and i and your staff and president xh*u's staff visited mexico city we learned about how they placed it in areas that lacked connectiveness to the transportation system and they could see that there would be significant use immediately as opposed to other areas where they will have to do more education and i see the richmond as one of those areas that is hard to get out to and

along the core and i would like to see the analysis that looks at how we can plan for the future for the west side of city as well and one of the key questions that chair avalos mentioned too, is finding a sponsor or sponsors like other metropolitan and the cities or we are an area that is not just one city but a number of cities and we even have more challenges that the bay area and the management district which i sit on with chair avalos, and the challenges of managing a system where they have the 50 percent of the sites but there are cities with many other sites and we have to look at the interests of the other cities as well. >> thank you. >> commissioner weiner. >> thank you. and i would like to supervisor mar and avalos and i agree. and i think that we have a broad con census about getting

it expanded to the city but one of the challenges is that you can't, it does not work if you just, if you make it to diffuse in terms of the distance between the bike share stations and the system does not work well and there has to be a certain level of concentration and that makes it more challenging to expand it and this is not even in the castro or the haight or the mission yet and so it really, and i think that it should light a fire under all of us to make sure that we get the funding, to together and to do a meaningful expansion and commissioner cohen and the mta does have several maps showing the several option and the models and some of them do include part of the south east. and but, i, i know that we are focused at getting it city wide. >> thank you. and if there are no other comments from the commission we

will go forward to the public, and if you would like to comment, come forward and you will have two minutes. >> hi, madaline and i would request i know that part of the issue of the growth of the bike share is funding and what i would hope is that whoever is responsible currently would daylight all of the issues regarding the funding and the impediments to it spreading in the same way that they did sort of a crowd sourced map for the preferences regarding the distribution of the bikes. and there is a lot of talent out there and there is also a lot of money out there and a lot of brain power to figure this out is moung the people as well. and i am an advocate for the port corridor and so i would like to note that the corridor transit is the most density populated and relatively flat and new to the recycling connector between the

destinations and in terms of equity, it aced the transit for many of the workers going both north and south and the workers go north, really being the back bone of the economy, and of the entire corridor and then, west and east along the water. and going south, of course, for the people that live in the region who are going down to other further challenges of the cal trans, and so whatever that or the offices downtown and so that is my, that is my bit on that. and more to the point, and i have one that really welcomed like i said, daylighting of the funding of the organization. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please? >> thank you, my name is (inaudible) and i am from san jose and i strongly support these two years ago and i actually pushed for the funding and the reason that i did was because of the cal train, is

because of the bikes on board, was no longer sustain able and we had a capacity problem and so our bush for bike sharing and those sorts of bike storage and you need to think about this bart now that you can start to have bikes. and for instance you might want to look on the baloba and it might become a issue, and the last point that connectivity in the south east, and you need to look at all of the present and the future stations and you need to look at the future mission bay station and you need to look at the future oak dale station. and 20 seconds and the connectivity between the stations and the tthree line and be able to make the connection when there is not one, and the blue shore is the connection and because you have the tconnection directly to bait shore line. >> thank you very much. any other member of the public who would like to comment, please come forward.

seeing none, we will close public comment. >> thank you, there was one e-mail that i received over the weekend that i forwarded to the ta staff and it came from people involved in the bike rental business. and i think that that would be important to look at in terms of the scope of work, that include, and what the impacts could be and what the compliments could be between the bike rental programs or the programs in staoet and what people will be using for the bike share program and so if you could include that in this scope of work it would be great. >> colleagues, i think that we can do the same house and same call on this item. and the item passes. >> and the madam clerk, could you call item 11 and 12? >>11. update on the waterfront

transportation assessment and piers 30-32 and seawall lot 330 (warriors) project information.11. update on the waterfront transportation assessment and piers 30-32 and seawall lot 330 (warriors) project information >> okay, thank you, these were items that were called by commissioners. >> commissioner kim, thank you, share avalos and i would like to appreciate the entire board's time for hearing an update on the water front transportation assessment. and particularly as we look towards large developments being proposed in this area. we called this hearing, to get a good sense of the existing transit infrastructure needed in our neighborhoods that wind along the water fronts and to identify solutions that we can implement now regardless of the proposed developments, coming down the pipeline. too, we also want to identify the long term needs, based on the population group and the development project in the pipeline to besinger recommend to the commissions on the most cost effective solutions that

we can prioritize now and to be able to articulate a clear package of option for our neighborhoods, particularly on some south beach and mission bay and on down to protro, hill. >> and this is part of the city where we have been focusing a lot of the growth and the development in our city. and just between 2000 and 2010 census, the district six saw an increase of 25,000 residents and many of them in the south of market area and of course. we have a lot of planned growth, along the south east sector and those on protro, and bay view. and as we built these neighborhoods, we have padded these neighborhoods as transit first neighborhoods limiting parking in the unit to parking ratio and limiting the ability for a residents to be eligible for residential parking permits and because they live in the

mixed use neighborhood and following many meters and only be neighborhood that has evening meters from 6:00 to 10 p.m. and given the fact that we have a giant stadium. and while we focus on a lot of the growth we have not necessarily been following through with the transit infrastructure needed to address this growth today. so there are a lot of concern among our neighborhoods about what are we doing today to meet the demand and growth that we are seeing in these neighborhoods. and as we look at the transit effective project, proposed service improvements, we continue to see that there is not an extension of the lines passed second street and they continue to still route around these neighborhoods, in the past when i have thought up these comments and questions along with the residents. the feedback that we get is that the residents can walk and while it is true that we live in walkable neighborhoods, it is important that we invest in the infrastructure that is

needed as we move more residents into this part of the city and explore the large scale development whether it is lot, 337 and the giant's parking lot, pier 7, or pier 3032 and that we are able to show our commitment to the neighborhoods today and can address the transportation needs and, if would like, or if we want support for future growth and development in this area. i want to introduce peter from the sfmta who is going to give a presentation on the assessment. and i also welcome, i know that we have ken rich from the mayor's office of economic and workforce development. and we also did invite the planning department as well. to sit in. and i know that commissioner, or vice chair, scott weiner also has other comments before we begin the presentation. >> thank you, chair avalos.

>> and also at the time that our commissioner kim requested this very important hearing on taking a step back and looking at development patterns on the water front and in the south, east part of the city and trying to match it up and making sure that we are keeping pace i requested a specific assessment of the transit inpacts and the pire.s 3032 project to make sure that we are fully understanding of the impacts of the project and to insure of the negotiations that proceeds and we are taking into account, the transit impact of the project and i know that the word project there are a lot of different views on it and, really, regardless of whether one supports or does not support the project, i think that there are a lot of and there are a lot of potential

good benefits, from the project for the city. i think that we all have a strong interest in making sure ha if the project happens we get the transit out right and i don't like going out one project because there are a lot of project in this area and they all have a role to play in making sure that we are taking into account, the need for improved transit in this area. and other parts of the city. because of we know that there will be significant inflows and the out flows of the people, and in the pressed periods of time and however it is because of a basketball game or a concert and we just need to make sure that we are prepared

that *. and i would like to stress my agreement with commissioner kim, we actually want to have strong transit and every part of the city, and whether it is a density populated areas or a less densely populated area, but the fact is that where the cranes are and where the development is happening whether it is in the hunter's point or pier 70 or the mission bay or the treasure island, we need to make sure that we are getting good transit. we make sure that we do this analysis and we put the money where our mouth is and that we do what is needed to keep pace.

>> thank you, mr. rich in >> i am ken rich and i am standing in for jennifer as the point person and i am going to do an intro and turn it over to peter. you are about to see a presentation on what we have been calling the water front transportation assessment. and as you will hear the purposes of this effort is to shine a very bright light on the need to do, appropriate transportation planning for the major projects being proposed on the water front and not just the pier 3032 project but also at pier 7. but we are working with the neighbor and the public at large and the project sponsor and all of the agency to design the solutions. at the end of the day, we know

very much that transportation is the major issue for many of these projects. and certainly for piers 3032 we will need to show you and the public how we move people in this area how much these investments will cost, and where the funds will come from, and when we will build or implement these investments. i will turn it over to peter. >> good morning, and peter from the mta. >> and the authorities and the support, and developing the assessment and when we talk about the water front assessment it became pretty quick that obvious to everybody, and that we have assessed tro pro-ject to project that we are not keeping

an eye on the network and there is so much growth as commissioner wean and her kim were talking about, there is so much growth happening on the water front that the idea of the water front assessment is getting ahead of these growth projects. they go to the shipyard because the network is a network that connects these neighborhoods and challenges and looks at the capacity and the land side movement that supports it. to be the assessment which we began about a year ago, one of the first steps we took was inventory of the goals that we have, and there was a library and the county wide plan and

the redevelopment agency and the plans of mta and the plans of bart and the plans of weta and golden gate and one striking characteristic of the water front is how many regional providers all converge on that site and it was helpful for the committee that was created by the board to steer the conversation for the warer to these goals and objectives that are already existing and to help them with the huge challenges, and the water front. one of the first requests that we heard in developing this assessment was tracking what is already going on. on the left-hand column are the developments that go beyond pier3032 1k3 the guy giants.

and one of the developments were expected to come on line. but on the right-hand side it was important to track what we knew was coming along and the major transportation, the subway and the ex-expansion of the terminal and but a bunch of investments that mta and the other providers were doing as well and it became pretty obvious that not necessarily there was a link between the opening of a major development and the infrastructure to accommodate it and so one of the early requests in our effort was to link what is happening with what is happening. so, in doing that, we worked with the community and not just in the big workshops but also with a lot of small meetings with home owner and advocate and businesses and with the transportation providers and we got a myriad set of concerns and ideas and hopes, about the transportation. and by taking the community

input which we do track and keep on-line if you go to the mta website, you will volumes of input on modes, and whether it is muni or bart or transit or bike pedestrian or taxi accessible service and pedestrian. and we realize that the way to get forward and the water front assessment was to take what we knew, and then take what we heard identify where the gaps and the opportunities were, and create strategies that should be part of every conversation for building on the water front not just when a major project comes on-line but what could happen tomorrow and what could happen in the next two or three years, these strategies are also on the website. and what they do is they reconcile the issues and opportunities and concerns from the community, which is the businesses, the residents, and the advocates and the transportation providers and what is going on with the development, and getting out ahead of it. and getting the ideas of better

transportation, into the shaping of the very projects before the projects go through the environmental review and to make sure that they mesh with the priorities of the agencies involved. it could be mta, or mtc or authority and we needed to track down what we are talking about in changing the network with where the agencis that have to maintain these services needed to be. and now, we talked a little bit earlier today about the mayor's task force for 2030. there are a lot of efforts like that we are trying to keep concur ant with so that when we look at those how they reconcile with the ideas and concerns coming from the community and the water front and i hear about the tep and the transit effective project and because it only project to a certain year and how do you extend the benefits of the better transportation planning beyond the horizon year and to the next wave of development and we did the same with the livable streets and the parking strategies, and the sfpark

program and other programs to try to get ahead of where the development is going to put the pressure and if the infrastructure is not there, that we will see that there will be a lack of coordination, before i turn this mic over to liz and i help that this is helpful in explaining how it is going, i wanted to use this diagram to talk about the urgency, we are looking independently because this should have been done, even if there was not a major development. they have been asking us to do better transportation planning along the water front for a long time and what we like about the conversation where it is right now, if you look at the center sphere, and the water front assessment strategy and we recognize the input and the information we are getting from the steak holders and how that feeds back to the project sponsors so that they can shape them in the beginning or through the environmental review process and it is the agreement or the impacts through the project. >> there is a huge opportunity here not just that we got the

input from the community, it is not just that we vetted the strategis that the agency is responsible, it is that we made sure that when we looked at these improvements they are not just project specific and they are network wide and i am here to answer the questions and i would like to hand the mike over to liz who is talking about how she is working with us on a ro bust jump start of the analyzing of the strategy and solutions that we are talking about. >> thank you, commissioner kim. >> i was hoping, would you prefer to hold all of the questions until the end, because my questions are specific to you. >> i would be happy to do that. >> okay, great. >> you know, a couple of things that we have chatted about, and one is of course, that the need of the neighborhood today. given the long lead time, what is the immediate next step sfmta can call it in the near

term as we are having a long term discussion about the water front? >> thank you to the chair and a good example is going to be the 22 motor approach and one of the challenge ss getting the fillmore bus that is supposed to go between the mission district and the third street and the problem is that it needed wires and needed to cross the train tracks and a lot of challenge and out of this assessment and the tep that we could run a hybrid motor coach tomorrow, and we are proposing to run it in conjunction with the opening of the hospital in 2015, well ahead of the warrior's development that will benefit from it but it is an example of something that showed, that we should not let the limitation of the technology keep us from running it sooner, there are street improvements that we heard from the people in the bridge building and the bay side village about the challenges of getting out of the garages because there is one southbound lane and so we are looking at striping one

lane. and that is a spectrum of the improvement with the 22 and the block, specific improvement that only came out of the conversation with the assessment if you would like commissioner i could talk about the others that came out. >> although, all that are in the bike project, and we are now one of the top five or six project receiving priority development area grants, to look at a separate bike facility along the embarcadero and it was tested in a glumcy fashion because we don't have the ability to break down the curves and create a specific treatment during the america's cup but the idea of separating the bikes is a safety priority as well as a facility and that is funded and moving forward this year, and what we can do not just to build a separate facility but to make sure that any future development along there acknowledges that and preserves.

>> i don't often go home during rush hour, but when i get to folsom street i am stunned by the number of cars and i have heard are choking our neighborhoods and i know that last friday night was particularly rough because bater did not run in the morning, and took approximately, 30 minutes for people to go through the south of market. and even if they were not leaving, the city. and so i am curious as to how your study is also focused on kind of the car congestion that we are experiencing currently in our neighborhoods with the freeway. >> thank you. >> if you look at the water front assessment strategies you will see that we have tried to break it down by modes and include vehicle circulation and we have a category like a

comment and making the ramp traffic more efficient and working with the authorities that have the ideas of their own to look at how we can meter ramp the traffic and be more strategic and because one of the challenges is that the approaches are generated as a congestion themself and i think that liz can talk about how that might roll out as part of the analysis of the solutions in their city. >> and i would to make the comments on the congestion issue later. but what i would ask to suggest is that there will be a way with sfpd on the actual enforcement around blocking the box. and cameras, if there is a camera you might not do it and maybe get home two minutes

earlier and you are going to do that not, not just how slow the cars move is that you cannot move at all when the cars are blocking the intersection and so you sit through three green lights before one car moves and hopefully there is an examination on the enforcement end. first of all a set of concerns about how much more extensive the tasking concerns and the people especially in south beach wish were set up as part of the giant's events and the warrior's subcommittees, staff and is also a quality of life and so we are looking at the special events team and how that can be more coordinated not just through the project property, of an event site, but the connection between that property and where the people are driving and where the people are walking so that there is this continuous work of parking management and safety as a priority for the

preevent and post event circulation. >> okay. >> thank you. >> commissioner breed? >> i just wanted to add a question, or i guess, ask a question about some of the comments that you make. i know that we are talking about over all, you know, plan long term, and for this particular area, and one of the biggest challenges that we have, is that this, what i think is kind of missing from the conversation, is where are we going to get the money to pay for the additional people necessary in order to drive the buses in order to deal with the traffic and some order to, i mean that we are in a situation even now, when those things happen and the giant's games, take in from the park station, to the giant's area because there are not enough officers, who can assist with those particular gains in addition to a lot of the parking and patrol

officers and of course, we all know that a lot of well, the money to pay, for personnel, comes from the city's general fund and i know that we expect the additional tax revenue as a result of the development and so on and so forth but there is a larger picture here and we are talking about the infrainstruct infrastructure and we are not talking about people and we don't have specific clarity or i guess a strategic plan around with the needs are over all for the fire department. the new fire department and what that means in terms of traffic and managing it and people and so on and so forth. and so i guess, this is not just with this particular it seems to be consistent with a lot of discussions that we have around transportation and in terms of where the bodies are going to come from and how it is going to be