presentation. >> they do. >> okay. >> we are the sponsor. this is moll i didn't shows he head of school and i'm valerie i'm the acting project manager on a series of projects at the school. i think you were asking why the first 10 years. when the commission give us approval for the temporary facilities bacterin years ago they were for on a increase in a super class size. they were put out in accordance with the planning commission. once they were in and started to looking at st. joseph's hall it's a difficult building to make work per the building code for children grades 2 and under

you have to have separate exiting. when we start to look at that we wanted to add two facilities to the site but those two plants starting to a impact not only the play area what every school would want it wasn't adding up. that at the same time the school was looking it's ambitions and a for the future decided it made accepts to increase the size of the school to have two classes per grade. that decision made it clear they weren't going to get enough square footage in a way that's satisfactory to the city and to the neighborhood and school. they starting to look around the

neighborhood for ultimate facilities and purchased the this on about delores street two or three years ago and sought non-entitlements and got through the process and that will be the middle school. that's the fundraising and moll i didn't will tell you. we have got all our permits on 61 delores but the last step of which is the porthole to be removed. that's why the first 10 years didn't result in removing the portholes. >> so wore happy to have this into our middle school. wove been down hero a lot working on that process we had to turn it back into

institutional use. we hope to complete all the improvements in the next 10 years >> if you have any questions, we'll be happy to answer them. >> okay. thank you. commissioners any other questions for staff or sponsor >> question. i'm wondering why this isn't a administration thing rather than coming before this board. the portables aren't attached to any landmark. it feels more like an administrative type of problem >> sure tim fry. it doesn't fit nicely into the categories in our delegation because it's a project that not only requires review by this commission and the planning

commission. we felt this was important to bring it before you. if you look at it from a technical standpoint it's like construction on the landmark site all be it temporary. >> i'd like the public to be a part of it. i have one speaker card but ms. hoffman you're the sponsor so do i have any public comment. >> i'll move approval approval. >> we have a motion and second. thank you >> on that motion (calling names) so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously 6 to zero and places you on item 9 for the next case at 660

california street for consideration to adapt a resolution. >> good afternoon. commissioners mary brown department staff. i'm presenting the staffs remedies of 660 california street the old st. marys building. the building is for an article 11 contributey rating. this was initiated by the archdiocese and it was repaired. at the conclusion of my preservation they'll talk about a change of designation. to summarize the 4 story building was designed by chuck

and construction was completed in 1966. it's located outside the market skepticism district. it meets the criteria for a category 3 for the following >> first, the information above the building as alp low docketed in the report makes it rode for rating. the building also appears to possess a very good in association with architecture design and it excellent in association with the environment sorry with relationship to the environment and finally, at 47-year-old it's age eligible. the subject believe when it was

19 years old it was classified as a non-rated building. the characteristic buildings are identified telephone number on pages 5 and 6 and concluding the connecting bridge and art ways and the design by mark adams. it is - the department recommends that a solution for a change of designation to a change of category that building. it's included in your packet and if adapted today, this item will be considered for future distribution. that concludes my presentation and i'll turn it over for a short premise and i'll present letters for the commission for the property owner.

>> good afternoon. i'm christen architecture historian at page and turn ball i have a brief presentation okay. my presentation provides a few illnesses and the summary of finding for article 11 change of designation.

you'll see here an aerial view where the wrecky is located on california street adjacent to old st. marys church there's a bridge and another bridge that connects behind it. a couple of images of the primary facade the one on the left and a close up view looking at northwest at the entry level. a few other images here. the preexisting covered bridge that connects it to the sanctuary on the left it previously connected the rectory that existed in this location before. a detail of the stairwell

openings immediately adjacent to that bridge in the left photo and a picture of the north bridge connecting to the facility and on the rhetoric of that photo there's a bump out that's the exterior view of the interior at the bottom the chapel with the window design by march adams. a here's an s o m drawing of the primary facade pled in 1964 the drawing and an illness from 1967 that shows the complete believe adjacent to the church and also the hartford building on the other side. so here we go or here's our summary of criteria. as mary said it has to be

located outside a preservation district it's 47 years old. we found the building does appear individually important for several reasons first with the local effort by catholic church to engage with contemporary art and architecture to create building that resonated with modern audience. we did a lot of research and found that in san francisco bay area the order embraced part of the art. in its design old st. marys directy you put a face on the oldest patience. and the st. marys facility was the oldest building in san

francisco. second it's a work of master under the leadership of charles. s o m distinguished itself within the firm and with architecture designs that pay greater attention to environmental and historic context and demonstrated greater expressions of modernism. we looked at the other work across the criteria country. the old mary facility is the old approach design as one of bassett design that exemplified use principles. and in association with that the building appears important individually as on a early design of conceptual design.

bassett oral history statements make clear his interests in context all design it's a typical at the national level and is an example of the design by the chief design partner in san francisco. under criterion for the building must be rated very good or excellent or in relation with the environment. it is very good with the architecture design it was noted after design in a feature in a magazine that feature was part of and only 10 years after the buildings construction it was given a 2 rating in the 1976 architecture survey meaning it was rated as approximately the

top 10 of building stock. we found the building appeared excellent in the environment as noted in the 1976 survey the building was designed to smooth the contribution to the east and old st. marys church on the west. it employes the use of concrete window to the golf course window and it is particularly success e successful it is matched with the shoulder of the church. the window openings carry the height of the church doors and window and the first concrete window successfully blend with the insurance building and the regular i do grid. we've found that 660 california

street meets the fourth criterion for the designation. underground for demonstration the building was never studied thus, the significant of the building make it eligible for rating as a building of context all importance. as documented in our report it's based on a sin thus and document of fire map historic photo that was collected and other primary resources. the primary resource information is set within the broad context of the old st. marys cathedral. and the work of edward charles

chuck bassett. evaluation above demonstrates the building is important. we therefore found the old st. marys directy is a contribute building in category 3. thank you >> thank you. commissioners any questions for staff or sponsor? seeing none, wool open it up for public comment. i have one speaker card. >> commissioners i'm edward the fortress property group. i've about that designated as the person to help old st. marys take this through to recategories the building. i think the report speaks for itself so i probably shouldn't

be up hero. several years ago st. marys were rezoned and you might recall those properties were rezoned 0 sole for the purpose to recreate t dr and sell those for the maintenance of the buildings. the first building open the list was old st. marys church because they needed fund for the service fit. and the two on the left is why wore here today and following through an the notion of rezoning and trying to create monies for that preservation. so having said that i think that, you know, the buildings virtual worth preserving as an unrated building in zone 3 the

building ensueable could be sold and it would generate the money for the maintenance. thank you >> thank you. >> any other member of the public wish to speak seeing none, bring it back to commission. commissioner >> well, thank you for the staff report case report as well as your report christen i found it exfoliating to see this information developed for the property and, of course, i support this designation. i'm just you curious from the recent speaker because on the t drs couldn't you sell them and how did it process work for you. we had a recent report deciding the program or relationship

earlier this year. i'm interested yeah, that would be great with the commissions indulgence >> yeah. we were able to create about one hundred and 75 square feet and we're hoping to put a transaction together to take about 58 thousands of those and so we can move on to the directory which will be about 6 thousand feet. >> who bought them i mean, you have the money to do the maintenance that's the idea. >> right that's a good question their sold to multiple users. actually emerald fund on hope street we sold some to 1401

mission street and i can't recall the others >> just to see how the program is running so thank you. >> commissioners any other commissioner weiner's questions or comments. >> i'll move approval. >> second. >> thank you. if there's nothing further open the motion to recommend approval (calling names) so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously and that concludes our calendar >> perch we'll bring this meeting to a close. -

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>> hi. welcome to san francisco. stay safe and exploring how you can stay in your home safely after an earthquake. let's look at common earthquake myths. >> we are here at the urban center on mission street in san francisco. we have 3 guest today. we have david constructional engineer and bill harvey. i want to talk about urban myths. what do you think about earthquakes, can you tell if they are coming in

advance? >> he's sleeping during those earthquakes? >> have you noticed him take any special? >> no. he sleeps right through them. there is no truth that i'm aware of with harvey that dogs are aware of an impending earthquake. >> you hear the myth all the time. suppose the dog helps you get up, is it going to help you do something >> i hear they are aware of small vibrations. but yes, i read extensively that dogs cannot realize earthquakes. >> today is a spectacular day in san francisco and sometimes people would say this is earthquake weather. is this earthquake weather? >> no. not that i have heard of. no such thing. >> there is no such thing. >> we are talking about the

weather in a daily or weekly cycle. there is no relationship. i have heard it's hot or cold weather or rain. i'm not sure which is the myth. >> how about time of day? >> yes. it happens when it's least convenient. when it happens people say we were lucky and when they don't. it's terrible timing. it's never a good time for an earthquake. >> but we are going to have one. >> how about the ground swallowing people into the ground? >> like the earth that collapsed? it's not like the tv shows. >> the earth does move and it

bumps up and you get a ground fracture but it's not something that opens up and sucks you up into haddes. >> it's not going anywhere. we are going to have a lot of damage, but this myth that california is going to the ocean is not real. >> southern california is moving north. it's coming up from the south to the north. >> you would have to invest the million year cycle, not weeks or years. maybe millions of years from now, part of los angeles will be in the bay area. >> for better or worse. >> yes. >> this is a tough question.

>> those other ones weren't tough. >> this is a really easy challenge. are the smaller ones less stress? >> yes. the amount released in small earthquakes is that they are so small in you need many of those. >> i think would you probably have to have maybe hundreds of magnitude earthquakes of 4.7. >> so small earthquakes are not making our lives better in the future? >> not anyway that you can count on. >> i have heard that buildings in san francisco are on rollers and isolated? >> it's not true. it's a conventional foundation like

almost all the circumstances buildings in san francisco. >> the trans-america was built way before. it's a pretty conventional foundation design. >> i have heard about this thing called the triangle of life and up you are supposed to go to the edge of your bed to save yourself. is there anything of value to that ? >> yes, if you are in your room. you should drop, cover and hold onto something. if you are in school, same thing, kitchen same thing. if you happen to be in your bed, and you rollover your bed, it's not a bad place to be. >> the reality is when we have a major earthquake the ground shaking so pronounced that you are not going to be able to get up and go anywhere. you are pretty much staying where you

are when that earthquake hits. you are not going to be able to stand up and run with gravity. >> you want to get under the door frame but you are not moving to great distances. >> where can i buy a richter scale? >> mr. richter is selling it. we are going to put a plug in for cold hardware. they are not available. it's a rather complex. >> in fact we don't even use the richter scale anymore. we use a moment magnitude. the richter scale was early technology. >> probably a myth that i hear most often is my building is just fine in the loma prieta earthquake so everything is fine. is that true ?

>> loma prieta was different. the ground acceleration here was quite moderate and the duration was moderate. so anyone that believes they survived a big earthquake and their building has been tested is sadly mistaken. >> we are planning for the bigger earthquake closer to san francisco and a fault totally independent. >> much stronger than the loma prieta earthquake. >> so people who were here in '89 they should say 3 times as strong and twice as long and that will give them more of an occasion of the earthquake we would have. 10 percent isn't really the threshold of damage.

when you triple it you cross that line. it's much more damage in earthquake. >> i want to thank you, harvey, thanks pat for >> welcome to the november 20, 2013 meeting of the san francisco board of appeals, the preceding officer this evening is board president chris hwang and joined tonight by lazarus and fung and honda and hurtado. >> the deputy city attorney robert brian and will provide the board with any needed legal advice and at the controls it the legal assistant victor and we are joined with the depa