general liability, with technical assistance at the ready, with people trying to find them ways to get not only long-term funding but cash flow solutions, we are working on their behalf. if all of you who push for this project and people like me and people like coffeeey who i think are honorable folks and cheryl who worked in the community if all of us are not here to make sure those goals are met, then i don't know what's happening. i believe we are getting there. you know, it's starting slow but we are getting there. thank you. >> dr. hann kit? >> before you go on, can you call like the next two or three people at a time if they are all for this item. is there one

more? great. >> good afternoon, commissioners, my name is dr. veronica hanukkah. i'm with the chairman visor committee over seeing the project. for now, members of this group, dedicated volunteers has spent countless hours and efforts and i have been able to carry this project from the conceptual phase to the implementation phase. i'm going quickly because i have a lot of notes to share with you but you know i'm fighting the 3-minute clock. following the san francisco report on contracting it's very obvious to the cac and members close to the community involved with the shipyard project, the problem with the project, the lan ar's massive community benefits program, basically the whole picture on the ground is not

only missing but inaccurate. that blame should be equally shared by your staff an others at cac, we should not let the san francisco chronicle and tell the news media. it's a real wake up call for all of us. we are working on a plan. the board of supervisors and our stake holders to disseminate on the ground. we have your fact and other agencies working with us, we are not pleased that pertinent information is not disseminated as expected. an i am straegs -- illustration of that when i was interviewed by the station about the cac and the development, the young woman in charge came out and said, i'm so sick of hearing this that lan ar was a rogue agency. by

the time i shared with her exactly what lan ar had done, she was shocked. she said wait a minute, we want to make sure that everybody hears this. here are some basic facts. by the way, the cac also hosted supervisor mallia cohen. we made sure we updated her on the progress from the ground and we continue to update her. the main point is lan ar has rose to the challenge to providing the resources for the community. i'm skipping through my notes here. this is what the cac is recommending. we are recommending the following. we will work with executive director tiffany to coordinate this recommendation. we would like an invitation from your commission for the pull presentation of the cac of the project on the ground and the i

c committee and the legacy foundation and from our subcommittee chairs on housing and business to speak on the milestones on the alice griffith project development. that is it. thank you for your time today. i'm grateful that i was able to speak beyond that 3 minutes. >> i will be very brief. my name is parish. we have providing solar panel installations and training and manufacturing here. i'm here to support the cap program with their butler enterprises and i feel like it's a great opportunity for companies like mine to get some visibility and transparency with the builders, with the general contractors specifically cahill and robert

oeb yashey. they have a joint venture with sunlight and power which has received the agreement to provide solar panels for blocks 50. we are currently bidding on blocks 53 and 54. the workshop has been very beneficial to us. we attended the workshop for access to capital which seems to be moving forward with some positive outcomes for funding and i'm here in support of the lan ar project. thank you very much. >> thank you very much. we'll get started real quick. commissioners, i would like you to know that we have a very full agenda today. i want everyone to get their questions in but i will probably cut it off if it starts to go offtrack too much. you had a question?

>> mr. butler, before i talk to you i would like to recognize angelo king and ed norman. i just want to know how you advertised this program you have? >> we are using a number of different techniques. we developed a data base of all the minority women on businesses, local businesses and sbe in the 941207 and 02 and we developed that list and e-mail and fax and we made sure we partnered up with disseminating information with the bayview merchants association and the chambers, the chamber of commerce and all the others to make sure they reach out to their constituents and stake holders to get the

information out. we follow up with a systematically normally three within the timeframe of a prebid meeting and outreach workshop or any activities going on and we make everybody is aware to what is going on at the shipyard. >> how many people on your list and what kind of associations? >> that's an excellent question. we have every association and every chamber of commerce on our list and the cac and stakeholder organizations and when you take a look at the actual contractors, we taylor the outreach list to the scope of work. for instance if it's underground utility we tailor our list to underground utilities. we keep advertising for somebody that lays carpet and underground utility they don't want the information that

you are disseminating. the list that we have for contractors is almost 500 companies. it's not only contractors but we also have professional services, construction related companies whether they are surveying or testing what have you. >> okay. maybe i will talk to you some other time. thank you for the information. >> thank you for the great presentation. particularly i thank lan ar for the good faith effort that you guys have put forth with the providing multiple general contractors and expansion of the cap program. my first question is there a robert yoeb she representative? a couple of questions for you with regard to i'm looking at the contract awards and going down the block 5 and 51. and it seems that the

contract for the common trade professions are being awarded to subcontractors that are not in the city. for example there was a drywall company in mill pit as. what was missing from that general process? >> i think what was really missing was getting bids in all the trades. we got bids from local subcontractors in probably less than half of the trades. what's hard in achieving in creating high percentages of participation is especially getting those bids in high dollar trades. the plumbing mechanical, electrical trades, the big dollar items. we didn't get any

additional numbers from drywall. that wasn't enough for us. we went back out and searched the neighborhood and found a local subcontractor and he bid the project, unfortunately he was considerably higher and met with him personally to go over his numbers to allow him to be competitive for 53 and 54. he did revise his numbers but there was too much of a gap to put him in on that one. i'm happy to say he has rebid 53 and 54 and it looks likes he's getting a project. we are on 50 and 51 they are one project and very hard to break apart. so he's getting a couple of buildings in 53 and 54. electrical on 50-51 we didn't

have any local bid participation on that. on 53 and 54, we a local bid it. the word has gone out now and even though we did the outreach and 50-51 went through several, now they see it's a real project and moving forward and we are seeing a lot better participation in 53 and 54. >> gotcha. that conversation when you see here before you see has to contracts and bids is there a needs assessment from your end and your end, what does that communication look like as far as ensuring that there are folks in the pipeline obviously but the communication is here is where a lot of the contractors are lacking? >> to give you some background on us, we have worked for over 25 years. we understand what

it's like to work with community and as a result we don't as a company put barriers up like set bonding requirements. we've helps substantially throughout the year so they don't limit their work on the project. what we've been mostly relying on butler so far where we are not getting coverage areas so if anybody maybe out in the community that just didn't get a bid on the project. in 50-51 anywhere we didn't have a local contractor, we've been going back out searching and trying to find someone to fill those spots. we've been doing that and 53 and 54 is taking us longer because we've broken it into 11 projects. it's been working well. >> thank you. my next question

for director, just as far as internal capacity to ensure proper oversight to make sure the goals are met, what does it look like for us? >> this is not a compliance issue i think you are getting at. one, yes, we do have a compliance staff. but this is from an executive management point of view. i can let you know that i have been personally involved. we do have a charge, an implementation role to make sure that we are doing all that we can both within the letter and the spirit of the redevelopment agreements to make sure we are meeting just as we met or the vertical professional side on the contracting side as well as on the hiring side and it starts from the director of the commission. you made it through the priority through the

executive management authorities who over see the project through senior manager all the way through the line to make sure we understand, to make sure the development partner truly understand what the requirements are and that's step one and how are we going to implement that. two, what's the proposal, bring us in on the front end as you heard the speakers indicate both from the developer and open yashey as well as defer, we were on a reactionary mode. that is not a good position to be in because we have a lot of units to develop. there has time with the district supervisor and time with the contractor and time with the executive management of lan ar make insuring that we see this as a priority and we expect them to deliver results and how are we going to deliver results. i

think you have her one method breaking down those packages. as a result of having by a block spaces. maybe only approximately 150 units, but what that means from a work flow point of view and we have accepted, that means there is 11 different building permits. so what that means is there is a ripple effect. the project included an mou. we have existing architectural and planning staff to handle that but because we wanted there to be sufficient opportunities for local contractors, now as you heard has had a ripple effect on the review of the permits. we have brought in additional resources where appropriate to make sure that we can handle that work flow and deliver on those results. >> you answered all three of my questions. so, that's it for me. >> thank you. all right. i will

make a quick comment and see if anybody has any questions. i appreciate the presentation today. i think going into today's presentation and rather getting the materials last week wasn't sure what we were going to hear. there were issues with local contracting and local hire with no real resolution in sight. to me it's very pleasing to see there were lessons on both sides. i think it was donny from lan ar that the oce in hunters point that have not been around for a long time are well established businesses. their cards are full but how do you get everyone else on board. i hope you have learned from the side. i really look

and say i need to grow my business to find wags to buildup the cap office to help in the future. this is a 20-year project so it won't be the end. the one question i do have and we haven't touched is on work force hires. my time on the hunters point, we asked for data around work force hiring. it wasn't that it didn't exist, it's just that the data didn't make any sense. it was hard to tell whether it was 1 person working for 10 days or ten people work are for 10 days or 20 people working halftime. it was very hard to see what impact and as far as what the local hiring was reaching the community. my question is, i know as i left the hunters

point cac, there was a new system that the city had implemented to track local hire and particularly construction jobs. so it would be great if thor or anyone can give an update in that process as far as reviewing and local hiring and do we have better data at this point? >> before, george bridges is a senior compliance specialist. the system for tracking is one that the city and county of san francisco uses and one that we use now. it's been going on for a couple of years. there is ways to figure out that module to track, the hunters view and the alice griffith residents,

bayview residents. there is ways to track it and george bridges can talk a little bit more about that process an we are always learning from best practices from the city as well an vice versa. >> good afternoon, commissioners, george bridges. when a project goes out to bid we set up the project in elations. it's a pay roll tracking system. on weekly basis the developer has the general contractor and all the subz submit on weekly bases. it used to be submitted on paper form. the data on each employee, is entered into system, the hours of worker per day along with the fringe benefits and the hourly rates. at any time we can generate

various types of reports that will give us an over all accounting of the local hires, the number of minority or women and then as far as down to the local bayview community. so we can get a list of percentage of those in the 94124, 94107 and 94134. today 9226 hours are generated 71.2 are from san francisco. there have been 32 workers from san francisco working on-site. there are 124 workers in general on-site. of the number 20, actually live in the district 10, those three

zip code areas. we are doing well in terms of the diversity and also even though the bayview contracting policies does not necessarily have minority and women goals, approximately 6 percent are female workers. >> great. i guess you don't to have go into it now but is there visibility into how much those individuals are working getting towards the question are these people approaching ft eshs. is it really more sporadic than that. is there any way to see that? >> there is, there are ways to do that. but really our program is designed to track total work force hours and the goal is based on total work force hours. we can manipulate the data to generate for example, what is it the gross wage for

residents of the bayview on the projector san francisco as a whole. if there is information that you like, we can work to provide that. >> well, yeah. i think you happen to be said that we track the information that we ask for. it might be that, that's a question that i have, but maybe it's not the most important one. maybe it's for another time that we can discuss. i wanted to bring it up since we talked about contracting. >> our partner also tracks some of the data in a different manner. >> ycd does that work as well. so there are partners that have metrics and systems that might be useful for that. thank you, mr. bridges.

>> commissioner? >> yes. i wanted to make a quick comment because i know we are running out of time. i wanted to thank both the staff and lan ar and everyone involved in the report. it's very comprehensive have and i'm glad to hear the report here because when i read it i was a little concerned about some of the numbers and i take to heart the pledges not only the good faith efforts in the past but going forward and i look forward to the next report and i'm pleased to hear that all of these strategies are being thought through are in my experience excellent strategies. when you look at a scope if it's too large and if folks are not competing and you break it down, and if people are not getting noticed because they are tired of being told that something is available and it not available to them and

they are debriefed and they didn't do as well as they thought they could. all of these strategies which i hear are being thought through certainly i think are excellent strategies going forward. the only small question i have is the issue of notice because it troubles me, basic notice is something that is critical to any contractor when an opportunity is present or not. i read in the report on page 6, that several of the bayview hunters points sbe's indicated they had not received notice of bid opportunities. can someone explain to me, maybe did you already and maybe i missed it. is this, the systems were not in place, the systems that you talked about were not in place or folks just ignored the notice? >> we are not sure how that happened because we've done so much work with redevelopment

agency with over 25 years. we understand all the processes to go through. we go out on the website, we go out on several publications and we send out several letters and we've worked with people in the past and our e-mail that we used to e-mail blast people. for some reason there were people that said they didn't get notice. we had a copy of the letter that we sent to him. he turned in a bid four months after. we were able to reverse a contract that had gone out and awarded to him because he was local. so we are trying. and then once we found that situation, we made sure that all the data we had was correct for the next phase. we made sure he was in the data base to get the notification the next time around. we've been improved but something

address are in correct and they haven't gone through the certification and we are just going through the most recent list that we have. >> okay. >> george bridges, i would like to add that often the companies will have an e-mail and it might be an admin person and they are no longer there and when the offering comes to them the small business has not changed their e-mail address. we try to remind them, if there is anything that has changed, make sure you contact either us or the center contract monitoring department. make sure all your information is up to date otherwise they would not get that e-mail notification. >> just to add to what mr. bridges said to reduce the margin of error with these e-mail list and mr. bridges can elaborate the contractor directly downloads, there is an ex- port in the excel sheet and

the contractor, the developer is able to do that from the oci website. it's not a question of lost in translation between the different parties. it's a direct download and greatest and latest information that we have from contractors and we utilize the cities list as well to get the broadest reach. >> finally, i would like to say that we recognize that there were communication issues in the first bid, 50-5 # and in my presentation i mentioned the layers of communication. defer did mention we are now using a three layered communication system, we are e-mailing, faxing and telephoning. when you start a project there may be discrepancies in the data. as we engage more and more contractors and defer has

created his data base, that is flushed out and we expect that communication to improve as we go forward. thank you. >> thank you. just a note on the time for our meeting today. we will be suggesting to this commission that we continue our closed session item. so don't sense is escence se censure yourself. this is an informational item. are there any questions or comments? thank you very much. thank you to our presenters. we look forward to working with you all in the future. madam secretary please call next item. >> item c final workshop on the long range property management

plan pursuant section 43191.5 semi below bill. >> thank you, this is an informational workshop on the property management plan now that we have paid monies due in taxing. approximately11 100-0000. we did an time clock. it was issue boo i the state and 6 months later we must issue this plan. we have been as you will hear from staff out in the community. they have been out there rigsly, tierl lease and on weekends and you will hear about the additional outreach efforts to be able to put together a plan that works within the context of dissolution law. we've already been to second workshop at the oversight board last week. this is the second workshop here and

we'll be teaming up action for your consideration as well as the oversight board's consideration for the state department of finance. i would like to ask reynolds with the development division to present this item? >> thank you deputy director. i apologize, i'm also not feeling well myself. i guess in the interest of time, i'm not going to do all the slides that i was going to do. i think i will just, i know there is a lot of materials that was given to you in your packet, not just this packet, but the original packet that went to you on august 20th for the first workshop. between that workshop and this workshop