as those 900 vehicles, we have about 50 percent of that is heavy duty vehicles, sweepers and construction vehicles and things like that. 20 percent are light duty vehicles and so that will include our sedans and trucks. >> i didn't mean the total fleet, i mean the total fleet in regards to cleaning equipment. >> cleaning equipment. >> are these electric vehicles for what? >> these electric vehicles are going to be used by the graffiti inspecters that are out inspecting the graffiti that are called in by the residents and property owners to 311. >> okay. i got the picture now. this was described i thought with all of these vehicles had something to do with cleaning something. >> no, they are not. they are not the heavy equipment. >> thank you, so much.

and i was just going to thank ken from bart who is a bart architect for also the fight that we have on the bart canopy as well. >> and he is not in today and if you are prepared and like to, hear him. he is... >> thank you commissioners for considering the hearing about the pilot project and also considering that the support of the funding this project may be taking place in san francisco in the near future. and as a result of nearly two decades of concerns and studies of how to wait for tactile escalators and it will be used undesired out comes from the lower landing of our suburban stations in urban alignment.

and it is proceeded in oakland station. and the reason that the 19th street, station was chosen as a pilot site has two main attributes and one is that it resembles some stations that muni and bart joint owned like for the downtown stations, they have two levels of the platform and the patron and the capacities very similar. two, is the patrons that use that particular exit of the station, are largely bart staff. and some of uc berkeley staff and so with all of this way inconvenience our customers and we are stacked with our own staff. and so it is really two main reasons that we pick up at the statement and particular location for the pilot.

and if you move towards the up left and the landings and the upper and the lower landings is where the incidents occurred and the unlawful activity occurred including some of the staff get assaulted here in these locations and then, on the lower left is a typical entrance which is no identification, where you walk on the street and even meet as

the architect or if you pull it right on the market street, i cannot tell that this is a power street verses the montgomery station entrance and so by providing a heed of house and provides the availability and then, last but most importantly, when it was the lower right corner, is the weather impact and the water and sometimes the human waste and the significant amount of debris from the street, have accumulated at the bottom of the escalator which is a huge volume areas for the liability and the intensity of the maintenance of the escalator and so, this really is a main concerned area that leads to we will have some kind of a pilot to learn how effective it is to take all of these issues. and so, here is the quick list of the objectives of our pilot and first and foremost, is

about three years ago, or four years ago, that state has escalator tighten eight and required that the escalator to be covered by both of the safety and the reliability issues. by providing the lock and gate at the street level and then a lighting and the good securety system will provide a better and safe patron running for both spot and muni at joined stations and other stations alike. and the... that i would want to get for the pilot is how expensive it is. and how, easy it is to operate this unit and what are the lessons learned from other

considerations put in. and here is the rendoring of the unit and by the way, and on the street and open these next week. and for the particular location and it is derived from the functionality. and the details involved. and so the finishing architecture is flexibility, to be adopted or adapted to the different from each of the locations such as the use of the colors and the use of the glazing and the use of the wide and we call it the side screens if you look at it. and so these are elements that could be, and that are flexible and it could be adjusted, per site context.

providing the evening lit mall and controlled the lit environment. >> and not only enhance. >> commissioner breed has a question. >> i am sorry, i just wanted to ask about the area i am certain that this has been studied but the area where that is behind the actual canopy, that is an area where people can like stand on, bang on, and there won't be any problems. >> yes, we will address that. yes. >> you will get to that point? >> yes. >> as well as the vandalism that could occur, not only with breakage and the issues. >> so the back curve of that circular canopy is really

designed for interclimbing and together with the glazing materials it is very difficult for climbing, the graffiti approach is what we will use is in our current elevator head of house is overlaying two layers of strong, clear vinyl sheet and so once you get excessive sheet, we will peel off one and we will install new ones, and so again, the safety and the controlled and also availability from the street scape and now, this is the typical element of this particular pilot. as supervisor breed mentioned several areas are unique and for example, the flood area and the canopy may not exist in our joint station in muni on market

street. because, the lanes of the opening is not that long, but we will pick up at this location and we just want to cover all of the possibility of a system wide as we develop at this appropriate time and the similar of other elements like the weigh findings and optional and but they are incorporated this in our pilot. and by the way, the flex part is actually the glass, and the glazing skylight that bring the daylight down to the station below. so, the results of this hopefully this canopy will be very consistent for the other elements for the vertical transportation that we call it in the system and that is built in the various and the sustain able materials, and the steel and the stainless steel. and used them from them and the transparent and the transient materials to create the safety and feesbility and also use the

led back light as a lighting as a back lit for way finding illuminating for the environment purpose. so, we will encourage that the patrons feel comfortable to use those vertical elements system-wide. and here is the project schedule for this pilot. as i mentioned it is on the street and opening next week and we are anticipate about 6 to 7 months of construction, and again, because of the advantage of value, is and it is using that exit is most likely we can close off in time and exit for construction to speed up and the budget is typically we look at and caused various on the side of conditions, we look at it in the two million dollars per head of the house and so that is all of the other pilots, if you have any questions, and i am more than happy to answer.

>> thank you i just wanted to ask, earlier it was brought up that we locally have the main nens and the responsibility for seven of our bart and i think that it is 8 san francisco bart stations what is the other bart station that bart is responsible for? >> bart responsible for is it called geneva? which station? owned and operated? in addition to the boss stations. >> my understanding is that there are seven bart stations. >> that is correct. >> mta is responsible for. there are 8 bart stations in san francisco, so which one is the mta not responsible for? >> maybe we could just get that information at some other time. >> the mta is responsible for the exterior escalator and we are responsible for two at pallet street station and the one that goes to the plaza area

and there are three stations that are not and, that is van ness and church street and castro street station which we maintain the exterior and the remainder of the stations joint or just bart stations in the south east are the responsibility of bater. >> okay. so i am understanding even though there are eight physical bart stations there, there were other facilities that bart and the mta work together on so i pds. >> and the commissioner you had mentioned that when was the last time that bart he is ka layed in the program? and i think that it was a 15 years ago where we had a system wide and we are called the escalator overhaul. but it does not necessarily cover every single escalator, they were identified the group of the escalators yeah. >> commissioner breed? >> yes. i just need some clarity as to with the replacements. who is going to be taking on

the responsibility of the canopies? and will those be done similar stain simultaneously? >> we have not with the downtown station and bart is responsible for maintain it and sfmta is responsible and contribute 50 percent of the cost of the maintenance >> could i hear from someone from the mta about this particular matter, please? >> so, the stations that the canopy that were shown to us today from bart, are the canopies that will be installed not with this particular prop k funding, what bart is doing from the station and my understanding and the presentation is the pilot. and so they are trying to test the treatments and the different things that might work and i think that they will learn a lot from the pilot and

there is no proposal right now to put any of these portal covers on any of the joint stations along market street and the continual down market at church and castro, and we will wait to see how long that works out. >> how long will that be? >> as i mentioned the pilot is to be constructed by the end of next year, and in process we will observe the contractbilities and the after and two months. and so-called, in the other years. and the seasons to perform and the workshops and with the various department of city and contract for san francisco about this initiative. >> i think that my digest concern about, you know, what we are doing now, is that there is not a clear plan to protect

the escalators and i think that if there is such a huge investment that is being requested for these escalators and not just the maintenance plan but i know that supervisor campos wanted to know about a specific main nens, and a long term maintenance plan with the escalators but what is most important to me, is a plan to protect them, especially if we are investing millions of dollars in replacing them. and i understand that this does not happen every night. but, i don't want to wait two or three years for a test. i want there to be in sort of reconsilation sooner than rather than later and there are places that are examples of places where outdoor escalators have been covered and so i am sure that a test is not completely, and we did not do a test for the new shelters that

were installed all over the city and in places that they probably should not be and so i just don't understand why this is not happening simultaneously. first and four most, the escalators are expensive to maintain and so replacing them and getting them renew and making sure that they are upgraded is important and so we are using the federal funds to match the problem k are rehab funds and that is how we are approaching the project. with regard to the portal, it is similar to the muni shelter so so there will be out reach and what do the people think about the design? i do know that as part of the discussions, around the better market street project, there is certainly that consideration that as we improve market street, the portals should be part of that discussion.

i think that we are looking at as we discuss these joint covers with bart and they maintain those escalators we want consistency and i think that the community would want that too. so point taken, there say lot of moving parts. this will be an important part of helping to further maintain, and extend the life of the escalators right now the plan is to get as many of them as we can get done to weatherize the ones that we are responsible for maintaining at church and castro street and van ess street location and which we have done and we have the maintenance plan in place and we look to the pilot to be

complete and further discussions about that. >> that is a long way off. that is my concern, is what takes care of the problem now? i mean that you have given me information that indicates there is no clear direction that this particular the ability to provide canopies and it associated with a lot of moving parts, but ultimately, the bigger issue for me was the protection of the significant public investment of millions of dollars and so at the end of the day, yes, it goes to the process, and yes it goes to the design review at the arts commission and everything else. but where does the lead happen? where does the push happen? and to wait for a pilot i think is just not a good direction to go with. and especially because what that says to me is the work that you are going to be doing

with replacing these escalators, once i mean that they are going to be replaced before we even maybe consider possibly a canopy as an option for the escalators. so, i don't want to miss out in an opportunity, of course, for federal dollars to make this happen. but, i just don't feel confident that we are doing this the right way. with not including an ability to really protect these escalators from maybe even more than 25 years, by doing something as simple as providing a canopy to help do that. >> so, these are, and these are all excellent points and it is the typical question of coordination, and us coordinate withing bart and working through our process in san francisco with the partners and getting these projects done, the schedule for phase two, which includes some of the escalators at church and castro

street has the project completed in the winter of 2018, so these will happen as part of a phase process. one thing that i noted when i talked about the maintenance plan was before we executed the next maintenance contract with cone, we actually tested out the escalator to make sure that we could include everything that we needed to in the maintenance contract association i think that between the better market street contract and the schedule for this project and the schedule for the bart test, or pilot, maybe what we can do is try to work it out so at least we get as close as we can with the timing. i think that is something that we can work on with your office. >> is it possible to add that to the resolution that we include, you know, that as a part of the resolution, so that it is, or that we have, and so whether i am the supervisor and you are in your job position or whatever the case is, there is a responsibility here, for the city, to move forward in that direction? >> i think that is perfectly fair that we continue to

advance moving that forward. >> thank you. >> commissioner kim? >> thank you. and i apologize that i missed the beginning of this presentation because i asked a lot of questions at the last meeting as well. i want to clarify, phase one, these five escalators in may of 2013. and the rest, the other 17 are schedule to be done over time through winter of 2018? >> correct. >> and so, the first five that went in, we were able to do some of i think, this work kind of the water proof conduit and the watering and the drainage but not the canopy yet. >> is it the only piece that is not part of phase one escalators? >> it is not part of the scope of either phase one or phase two. so, they are considered out of scope. these projects are considered purely renewal and the dollars

that we are using are designated for those purposes. >> do we have a sense of how long escalators last in other cities? >> well, these have been in place since 1972, since they originally went in, we do have a standard use for life that we use for all of the assets and i can share that with you if you would like. i don't have an answer right now about other cities, but we can certainly take a look and get back to you on other that. >> that i think it would be helpful to see what the poo city do not just the united states, but the world. i don't want to give them a hard time about 15 years or ten years if that is the average throughout the world. but if we have a sense of what cities are able to extend their useful life and cities aren't and what are the factors are and i think that we should be able to learn without not just commissioner breed said just the pilot on 19th street but we have what we can look at.

>> and you know, the best bang for our dollar. we will look at that provide that information to you >> well maybe i missed this in the plan, but i thought that in the 20 year plan we do talk about putting canopies on the escalators that we share with bater. but not for the stations that we don't share with bater. >> so there has always been discussions again as we look at market street and doing the better market street project that they can be part of that scope or integrated into that project. i think that the assumption from us is because the stations that we do not share with bart are also on market street. we would look to the design and the standard of that because that would go to a public process and we would have to be responsible on our own or the contribution of our own or the construction of those. >> we have not considered them but it is that the

consideration and the join ones with bart taking the lead on this pilot. >> i see, in the 20 years to me is a long time so i would hope that we would consider, van ness, and church and castro, but in the 20 year plan we just have embarcadero, montgomery and powell and civic center, the mayor's transportation task force put in 30 million dollars for the construction of the canopy so it asks the 18.5 million is just going towards the escalator the task force is just the canopies. >> and i would not say that it is just for those four stations

so bart gave you just as part of this presentation, just with their pilot project estimated 2 million dollars for an individual portal and so i think that the 30 million dollars would stretch as many port tals that we have in san francisco as possible. and so that 30 million is a place holder based on a guess as to what the cost will be. >> so up to potentially 15 portals. >> correct. >> okay. and then, the over all cost and construction of a better market street in general. i guess that i am trying to understand the over all, and just this prop k request and then the mayor's estimate and then there is better market street. >> so i can address, so, this is about the state of good repair of one of our assets as part of the system and an important one escalators and so the current prop k request is just for over three million dollars with the local match to essentially renew or replace the escalators in the phase two

project. and laid out in the presentation that i gave. that is just pure renewal of the aspect and replacement. and updated parts and materials. and as part of my presentation, i also included the maintenance contract and we have the annual contract, and we are hoping that through these renewals the actual cost of the day-to-day maintenance will go down and because we will no longer have to fab bri kate the parts which is a high cost for us. the mayor transportation task force leads to that, that is the state of good repair and the canopy would be an enhancement and there is 30 million set aside that will pay for those on top of it. and so depending on how the funding strategies and the task force work out and when the funds will be available and that will be advanced if the funds were available after that

process was completed so i will just answer from our perspective, we have, we are responsible for, about 8 escalators that touch the street and, bart is responsible for all of the other that go from the street down. and a lot that we are responsible for on top of that is those within the station those don't touch the weather at all. and so we do want to replace those and make sure that they work for people to get to the platform. >> but for the ones that are outdoors, how important is a canopj? >> there is a maintenance impact for those exposed to the weather and in a standard maintenance analysis we will look at it and the cost of the day-to-day maintenance and what the failures are and the standard parts, and we could have the failures within the stations themselves and there

will be a differential that we will assume that these tend to break a little more often. because they are impacted by the weather and debris and we have worked with the authority staff and certainly something that we could take a look at to see, kind of what that analysis is and what main nens costs are. but we the honest answer is that we don't know until we go through that process. >> i think that the reason that i think that we keep asking that question is because if we are going to invest in the new escalators we want to make sure that we are maximizing the dollars that we are spending to invest in the infrastructure to last as long as possible if we know that they are not important, but if i knew right now that they were going to impact the long term and not having them would impact the long term maintenance i would want to wait to invest the dollars clearly not the ones that are already underground i just,

again, i want to make sure that our dollars are getting stretched because we have so few, i think what is really challenging with this number for the canopies as much as i am pushing them, $30 million for them are the pedestrian safety strategy is 34 and put that into perspective is heart breaking and so, i want to get a since of the importance and if we are going to improve them and we feel the complaints about all of the time is that we are doing the best way possible. >> i think that our strategy for right now, is to try to get as many of the escalators repaired and functional and maintainable as possible. the funds that we have are maintenance dollars and prop k this is three million and where a canopy is 2 million and with regard to public impact we are hoping this will impact a lot of people and we will at least to the best you have our

ability make them as maintain able and reliable for our customers as possible. you know, commissioner breed, brought up a lot of good points with regard to time when we repair them and when the portal covers will happen and that process with scheduling and so again, those are the typical issues of coordination and timing and schedule. i certainly think that we can try to align those things up to the greatest extent possible. bater is starting a pilot. and any cover will have a positive impact, both to the customer and to some extent the maintenance, and what that is, we don't know yet. >> before we get to commissioners yee and campos, director lamgarto had a comment. >> these are accident questions and i can tell that we touched on