program, that is an extraordinary delay. that is the basis of our request today. so with that, i am happy to answer any questions from the committee. >> colleagues, any questions, supervisor wiener? okay. that was remaining. >> okay. colleagues if no questions at this time. why don't we go to our budget analyst report, mr. rhodes if you will. >> mr. chairman, supervisor winner, the sources of the proposed $10 million appropriation are summarized in table 3. that's on page 20 of our report. on page 21 of our report we note that of park improvement funds of the

capital committee that these funds would potentially be used for 1 $1.8 million leaving remaining unidentified projects under the proposed supplemental would be appropriated to the 2008 project to be allocated by the parks and commission. below on page 21 we say on 6.8 are to be reported to the capital planning committee that these funds would be used for approval for 4.3 million for dolores park. 800 thousand for the playground and for the beach los angeles. supervisors i would note if you appropriate these funds today it would be strictly up to the

department of recs to make the allocations. with regard to the dispositions being requested for the department manager 1 position and each in fiscal year 13-146789 for the additional annual salary $238,000 for both positions. the total on going salary and benefit cost is approximately $321,000. all the positions would be taken from bond funds and they current have eight project managers and 110 projects to manage which rpd indicates is not sufficient. however, as of our report, rpd does not provide enough information, existing staff

assignments, comparison with other bond projects, staffing and the need for the requested two new positions to meet this work load. the bottom line is these position had not been justified. we are not negative on the positions but anytime the department requests positions we need the information to report to you to determine whether or not that has been justified. our recommendation are that you an approved the supplemental ordinance and continue the proposed annual salary. we didn't say continue to the budget. all that we are saying is continue it until we are provided with the information that will justify these positions. specifically, continue the proposed annual salary ordinance filed 13-1141 for the pending rfpd existing staff assignments comparison with other bond projects and staffing for the new positions

to meet this work load. in fact, as soon as, if they give us the information this week, we'll be prepared for the next or maybe two weeks2 weeks. well, in january, that's right. the next meeting would be in january. we are certainly prepared to report within the six 6 months of the budget. debra newman who prepared this report, i will be happy to respond to any questions. >> thank you. on the information of the two salary positions. i guess i was hoping to get it resold -- resolved in the last 2 days. >> i think there is a little bit of a disconnect from the timing of where the material, the budgeting analyst office was given notice which i think is very appreciative of the work of that because of the supplemental and

reappropriation the funds is a critical item. i think we can provide the information that mr. rhodes is asking for. it's not much different than what i just verbally relate to you but we can provide that information to the budget analyst. >> given this is an ordinance it won't be approved until january. we are not going to have a massive holiday timeline here. colleagues, any questions or comments? supervisor avalos? >> it's not for mr. rose, but thank you for your report. i have comments or questions about one of the sources of funding, the appropriation of the car born and it's actually that it's not on here is actually a pretty important moment in the car born history.

we have many of the documents that we've been trying to get together to assure that the car born is ready for the capital project and raising money for the car bar and we have to raise all of those documents have to be ready. we have done the review and potential tax credits for new market tax credits and we have a new executive director who has great experience. tim who is here and has great experience and capital financing. so we are really excited about how we can move this project forward. i have concerns about there being the appropriation from this project and i know that the rec's and parks commission can decide that the uses side of this appropriation can cover

the car barn but i would feel we are most comfortable to keep fund for the car barn for the projects. i think there is some work remediation work that is in the soil. i think there is some work on the roof that needs to get done and some design work that i know is eligible for the original park bond that is for uses sides of these funds. i would like to see if we can we have could actual put on reserve an equivalent amount of what we are deappropriating for the car barn for the carbon that is determined by the recollection and park and car born staff and help looking with my office of course, but that can be on

community refrj for a later decision to be released when the plans are in place for the car barn. i want to make sure what that is for those funds. >> supervisor, i think it is a policy decision for the committee. i think our request is that, our preference would be the controllers office reserve, whatever allows us the most flexibility and the quickest turn around. it's taken us a while to get here. we want to make sure we get this done as soon as possible. i think we have been working very closely with geneva car barn and to identify some linkagible. there is a leak k roof that we need to think about in terms of preserving the acid over all and remediation work and again va

carbon has services so if we were to use gee oh bonds fund we would need to do an ordinance to provide us with the ordinance. those are the three eligible types of spnd turs that we are talking about with them right. no they are working to price those two items and if we have that our hope to be able to prethose all the together with the items we are thinking about. it is a decision for the committee, i think one of the thing we would like to previous is the ability to present altogether the different tradeoffs associated with these $5.6 million. while these funds were in geneva car bonds and the city does have a number of upcoming unknown life safety projects. the rim fire has left us with unknown capital liability. we have as

we said the land slide and other projects we are continuing to price. i think the reserve is better for us than to continue the full appropriation appropriated with car barn. >> i was considering just the appropriating or deleting the deappropriation of the $838,000. so i feel like budget committee reserve does make sense and, you know, i want to see this project go forward. i have made a commit about geneva car barn and keeping the money for the geneva car barn is as well. we have staffing in place now help with the campaign. it's a great amount of money to raise for that. what we have in place is already here and makes so much sense that we keep the reserve there for the car barn pending further plan. i would like to keep it in budget

committee reserve. when it comes to possible ordinance that waves the requirements, i think in this case that we have a designer that's done a lot of work in the car barn and that current designer and continuity, that project makes a lot of sense to me. i'm willing to support and get my colleagues to support to get that kind of waiver as well. >> thank you, supervisor avalos. colleagues, any questions. okay. at this time we'll open up to public comment. is there anybody from the public that wish to comment on items 3 or 4? please come up and step you the to the microphone. >> good afternoon, my name is tim worth and i'm the new executive director of the car barn. i appreciate you taking this up and i want to acknowledge and thank supervisor avalos for his continued leadership on the car barn. it's a project that most

of you know about that's been around for a long time and ready to go and there has been significant progress which has positioned it to move forward. what's contemplated with the car barn is an opportunity to take an empty resource that happen in a relocation to across from the bart station and convert it to a community art center. if these funds can be directed to the car barn at this time. there is an excellent leverage opportunity. this is a step in the direction but an important step. so i want to thank you all for your consideration on this. and look forward to it continuing the progress updates. >> tim, could you say what are some of the immediate capital needs that we have that potentially this amount of

money $838,000 can go towards? >> happy to. i have been working cooperatively and collaboratively with the parks and recreation staff as to how to distribute funds to the car barn project. the list you summarized pretty well. our highest priority is to move forward with the design set. we have 8 designs. we have a couple of hundred thousands of dollars to work the schematic designs. the total cost for the design works to move forward is $1.3 million of which the architectural fees are $653,000. so, again we would be able to use these funds if we moved forward in our capital campaign to match and leverage

with private sources. we've also been looking at potential immediate capital needs to be done out of scope and one of those is replacing the powerhouse roof which is the attachment on the northern end of the building where the power supply for the electric train systems was located. as you mentioned the roof is leaking. so we've talked to the architects and there is a possibility of replacing that roof right now and the benefit of ceiling the buildings and the elements of the capital part of the budget. that is estimated to be $250,000, but again we need to update those numbers that we are in the process there. and in addition there is asbestos and led abatement in the billion --

building and we are trying to fine tune that. >> we appreciate that and welcome on board and thank you for your work on this big task of the capital campaign. >> thank you very much. are there any other members wishing to speak on this item? seeing none, public item is closed. >> i think what would be do we appropriate the source or do we do a blank kind of 800,000. >> deputy attorney jon gibner what i believe is you want to deappropriate the funds and the reappropriation on reserve and direct supervisor avalos concern the condition on the reserve that parks and recreation report back about

the geneva car barn to that effect. it would be ultimately up to the committee how to spend that reserve. it wouldn't to have go to that project. but you could add in that reporting element to make sure the committee discusses that project when you consider the reserve. >> thank you, that would be what i'm most comfortable with so we would go ahead with the appropriation. part of that appropriation in the end would be $838,000 budget committee reserve pending release on reports from parks and recreation and how it will be spent ideally i want to be able to maintain it's being used for geneva car barn and is that for

reserve. i just want to make sure that we keep the specific use source for the specific use. >> john gibner. what i suggested would not be for that specific use because you would be adopting the reappropriation and putting the reappropriation on reserve. the control about whether there is, whether you can simply not appropriate and maintain it on reserve. >> that wasn't what i said. i said we can go ahead and do the appropriation. but instead of releasing the full amount we'll release the full amount minus $838,000 with the committee reserve. with the condition of the budget reserve will be a report from how it's used from the parks and recreation

whether we can actually keep it on budget reserve specific to the parks and recreation depending on the report for how it would be spent. >> the intent to just constrain the use of the funds to the geneva car barn. right now i can't spend those funds on anything but the geneva car barn. that constraint is there, if you want to be able to have a broader conversation about other potential projects and have us report back to you and have the board weigh in on that conversation, then it's the most appropriate tool. >> i was wondering by making the appropriation and deappropriation for the money that made it available for a wider range of products used within the the geneva car barn. we'll just delete the

appropriation. we'll keep the source. >> okay. >> quick question for you. if we do that, the proposed deappropriation, what bond is that from. is that a bond we are going to run into time limits from use of those funds? >> yes, supervisor, it's a good question, this is 2000 bond funds. the funds are already 13 years old. there is not a calendar on when arbitrage fees are assessed but just as an example 2 years 2 years ago we had measures from the bond and it was decided on and we were ready to go and we got a letter that said in 14 days we needed to pay that money in full amount in arbitrage fees i think it's back to the bond of trustees. the department of public finances would have a

better understanding. i don't know when the charges can be assessed which is why we are trying to get as many shovel ready projects to start. >> i fully support what supervisor avalos is doing here but i want to be smart about it. we are not at the end of the day -- i don't want to see penalties accrue. >> i will make the appropriation to the geneva car barn source of $800,000. that

will make changes decreasing that amount $838,000. >> okay, we have a motion by supervisor avalos on item nor 3. can we take that without objection? it's moved. and can we take that without objection? okay. so moved. and item no. 4, continued to the call of the chair and why don't we do that and get that to the committee meeting in january and get that handled. if we can do that. so moved also. we are starting to have people with child care questions here. so i'm going to call another out of order.

>> i have a doctors appointment so i have to leave now. >> let's call item 8. prevailing wage rates various workers performing work under city contracts. >> various administrators require established of the prevailing wage rates required of city employers under city contracts including janitorial services, workers performing work in public off street parking lots, garnls, storage facilities, it's required to provide the board with data on

prevailing wage rates. the board of supervisors has discretionary and not necessarily to adopt what is being put forth. as is with the commission of it's prevailing wage rates. that's based on the data collected by the data labor enforcement. should you have questions with respect to the data points with methodologies with the surveys we have representative available to answer any questions. >> thank you. miss johnson. colleagues, any questions. >> okay. mr. rhodes can we go to your budget analyst report, please. >> mr. chairman, supervisor mar on page 39 of our report we report that attachment 1 to our

report which we prepared summarizes the types of contracts leases or operating agreements required to pay for prevailing wages with respect to bargaining agreements and labor unions, the amount of allocated wage increased compared to 2013, and the amount of 2014 and compares to 2013 and finally the proposed prevailing wage raise themselves. we know any increase as a result of the proposed prevailing wage rates depends on future contract bids and which results on higher rates. there are such potential increase cost to the city cannot be estimated at this time. inform are that reason we consider this approval of the decision be for policy decision for the board of supervisors. >> at this time we'll open to public comment? anyone wishing

to comment? is there any additional public comment? seeing none, public comment is closed.. >> we can do so without opposition. thank you very much. at this point wei go back to the beginning. please call item no. 1. >> the clerk: item no. 1. lease terjs agreement literacy for environmental justice. l 13816 eco center. resolution authorizing the mutual termination agreement between the port and literacy for environmental justice for lease. >> we have carol here to speak. >> good afternoon, this is regarding the termination of the ports lease with literacy and environmental justice also known as ledge. the lease is a small eco center at the heron's

head park for land in 1998. it was awarded a 10-year lease for 2300 square foot of unimproved land for the eco center. that ran from 2007 to december 2017. design and funds constructed the eco center completed in 2010. ledges lease included rent to 2500 in rent andesite preparation cost. at completion of the construction, the value of the prepping cost exceeded the total amount of rent that would have been paid to the port over the 10-year term of the lease. the eco center never

generated any center for the court nor was it anticipated to. as for staffing and any other organizational changes at led, let seeks to focus it's operations and vacant the eco center and terminate it's lease with the port. under the terms of the lease, results in eco center reverting to the port and $68,000 in fees and deposits. the operation and maintenance cost associated with the eek oh center also revert to the port and we have a plan to assume those obligation primarily using the port staff and existing operating budget. in october, the port commission authorized staff inform a board agreement. that agreement is on file with the clerk with the board. terminating ledges lease authorizes the port to lease

the eco center to a new tenant that can operate it with it's original intent which it was an environmental education center and public access to in enjoyment of heron's head park and about building practices and san francisco bay environment. the port has solicited lease proposals and received responses from two qualified potential tenants. with board of supervisors approval and of the proposed lease termination, we look forward to managing the eco center building and look forward to seeing a new tenant operating with full available assets. >> thank you. any questions. supervisor mar? >> thank you, and the budget analyst for the history of ledge and literacy for environmental justice and the great project of developing this eco living classroom. i'm

really sad to hear about the financial difficulties of the organization. off line i would love to hear what the two organizations that have in the interest in the site to make sure that it serves it's environment justice and sustainability purpose that it was built for. thank you for that. >> mr. rose, could we go to your report? >> yes, members of the committee, as shown on page 4, we report that the literacy on justice that also reported this that the total credits of $53,000 that increase that they would have to pay. there's no rent paid by lej to the port. they have already paid the port the require

>> this is a meeting of the san francisco recreation and park commission. would the secretary please call the really >> (calling names) so we are on item it which is the president report and just as a quick remainder please please silence all electronic devices. that wouldfor 4, 584