that we need to appoint three new members to the board of examiners. and that would be the tenant seat, a property owner seat and a structural engineering seat and so we will be discussing that as well as talking about expired and soon to expired seats, on the code advisory committee access of appeals commission, and of course, the board of examiners as well. and for this, i like to ask the director if they could send these secretary of those three commissions to this meeting because we like to discuss, things with them. and is that okay? >> okay. >> all right. >> okay, i had a follow up question. i was just wondering especially for the new seats. with the seismic safety ordinance, and i was wondering if there was a special out

reach done, you know, just to let those con constituents know that we have these seats available and i think that sometimes especially if people are not as active in the commission's business, they don't know that there is these kind of seats that come up. >> all right. >> commissioner martha is, we are planing to do that and as of right now, there is notice posted on the dbi and the building inspection commission website and we have, that is the process that the nomination committee is going to be working on is to do the out reach to the different groups that have those types of structural engineers and the other qualifications. >> and the cop folks. >> right. >> who include the land lords and the tenants. >> yeah, i want to make sure that the tenant and the out reach like the san francisco owners or the different housing groups are notified.

and you can let me know if there are specific other groups that you want me to add to the e-mail list. >> but that is one of the reasons why i want the secretary and the commissions and the boards to discuss those strategies with them. >> okay. >> all right, thank you. >> is there any public comment on item 5 a, and b? >> hi, commissioners andy, and on this issue it is unfortunate what happened, but we just remember that it did go through the peer review and so kind that in mind and so on plan checking quite frankly i think that dbi has done a great job on plan checking and also when it comes to fees, we could lot of this you and they are looking at the what the cost of the project is and they are very tough about it and they are really are. and so, i know what happened over here that came off what it did buff i just wanted to try to separate the issue of the plan checkers from what

actually happened, it happened in the field and that is not a matter and, so on the whole, i think that dbi as far as plan checking they are doing a great job and i think that we and everybody else and we had them working there and so i just wanted to say that, thank you. >> any further public comment? >> okay, seeing none, item six, review and approval of the minutes of the special meeting of september 25th. >> move to approve. >> is there a second? >> second. >> are all commissioners in favor? >> aye. >> aye. >> opposed? >> is there any public comment? >> seeing none, the minutes are approved. >> item 7, adjournment. is there a motion to adjourn? >> so moved. >> second. >> thank you. >> all commissioners in favor? >> aye. >> aye. >> happy holidays everybody.

>> happy holidays. we are now adjourned, it is 10:20 a.m >> when there's good children's theatre it's good thoert and if it's good to her you will like it ever it's for children that's what i think. it's both a story for kids and a older people it's about loving a toy or friend and it's will what it means to get old.

>> in 1986 my son was two and i decided i would like to make a developing rabbit i had never read it i heard it as a mother. my first version was a bedtime story recording and it's through that that i denied the at home and role determined how to produce the story. it's through licensed to it when i first made the dance i really watched any son and i took him to the perform he loved the performance and he loved it when somebody was reading to him he

heard the language human resources usually when the rabbit come out he say oh, the rabbit. it's the talking and sliding and kids can relate to. and the adults loved nanna. now napping in a is the main adult figure in the show she represents stern love the fair is played but he same person and i think fairy is the thing have you for your first child pure love. i think nature is a beautiful thing and all widespread rabbits come to nature it's about how far and not something our kids get those days.

♪ ♪ ♪ there's fantastic spectacle what happens with the computes so i think in life performance you see it more successful and ask people to buy into your world so long as the world is consistent that you have on stage and film say, i want this message for kids. the world doesn't have to be spectacle it can be about relationships and a taking things seriously and not about being blown away. what is real asked the child one

day and the success for the most part when you are 7-year-old you sit in the seats and kids laugh and ask questions and that's a sense of success. i think the fact we tour it and do it here and still are audience is lasting. i want to say its lasting because the story is a wonderful story. if it was just an okay story it wouldn't have laced this long. i've had people come up to me and say that's the first story i've seen of this as to how and people come back to see this

when they're in their 20s and they come back more than once what their older year after year. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> good morning to the san francisco planning commission regular month to month thursday, december 19, 2013. the commission doesn't allow any disruptions and when speak before the commission if you care to do state your name for the record. i'd like to take roll >> president fong. commissioner wu. commissioner antonini. commissioner borden. commissioner moore.

and commissioner sugaya >> commissioners first on your calendars are items proposed for continuance. for 410 townsend street as proposed for continuance january 16, 2014. for the next two cases at the 1433 bush street request for authorization and surveillance are proposed for indefinite. under your regular calendar item 17 for case requests for planning code contemplate is requested to continue this matter until january 16, 2014. i have one speaker card related to 17, however, i'm not sure

it's regarding the continuance >> so let me call the name. richard >> and sir, your comments at this time are limited only to the matter of continuance. >> thank you. i have brought written comments from a letter we consisted electronically i'm with the law firm and thank you president fong. i'm here representing the united service west and their 5 thousand workers and their 40 thousand members throughout the state of san francisco. we very much appreciate the stuns we think this ordinance has been rice in a significant way it can have dramatic impacts on downtown so far. it was proposed for a one off to

the apple store but now 38 buildings around reunion square including the is it fair to say distract hotel and macy's store the ordinance as property would allow any of those buildings to be destroyed and raised to the ground >> sir i'd like to remind you those comments are restricted to the calendar. >> we think this is a significant change to the ordinance that certainly warrants the continuance so the matter can be continued and the environmental review determined of such a broad recreational ordinance. >> any member of the public wish to speak on this item on items proposed. seeing none, public comment is closed. commissioner antonini >> yeah. i had a question

about item number 2a and b it looks like an indefinite continuance is there a reason there's no date on that? >> commissioners david lindsey from the department staff. the projection sponsor is continuing to work with staff and a neighbor group from polk strot street on this. with the holidays coming up we weren't able to come down with a definite date we've left it open when we come upon a date >> okay. thank you. >> thank you. >> commissioner moore. >> for the record the applicant sent a letter to the entire commission regarding - he's did

you deliberating working on the project that were that xhifrmdz what you're saying the letter hadn't aspired. >> commissioner borden. >> i have a question is the continuance being requested by the public? >> actually, the department is requesting the continuance a 19 plus page letter we received late and haven't had a chance to look at it. january 16th is within our timeframe to look at those >> okay. great. >> commissioner sugaya. >> yes. for the january hearing i'd like a lot more information including where the addresses. i know there's there's a map but the map didn't have any addresses the nature of the

buildings, you know, the physical description and some pictures >> commissioner antonini. >> i was going to go ahead and move to continue items 1, 2a and b-1 to the date listed january 16th and to the indefinite continuance and january 16th. >> second. >> commissioner moore. >> okay. so there's a motion and second and a commissioners there's a motion and second to continue all items on that commissioner antonini. commissioner borden. commissioner moore. commissioner sugaya. >> can we continue a variance b? >> it will be renoticed

recalls. >> okay. i. >> commissioner wu president fong. so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously 6 to zero. commissioners that and places you under your consent calendar they maybe acted upon a single roll call and no discussion unless the public or staff should request and it will be reformed from the consent calendar and item 3 case at the enterprise street request request for authorization and the next one at the 21 through 25 condominium subdivision and the next case at the 2715 through 19 be sacramento street

request for condominium conversion and the next at the 3104 request for continual use authorization the next one at the 2200 market street and the next case at 850 brannan street known as 88 street there are no speaker cards. is there any public comment on those items on the consent calendar. okay be smooenz >> commissioner borden. commissioner antonini. commissioner sugaya >> and president fong. >> so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously 6 to zero and mrs. you under commission matters of the draft

minutes for september 5, 2013. >> any public comment on this item? on draft minutes or proposed draft minutes so moved, commissioners. >> i'll move to approve the minutes. on that motion commissions to adapt the draft minutes commissioner antonini. commissioner borden. commissioner moore. commissioner sugaya. commissioner wu. and president fong >> so moved, commissioners, that motion passes 6 to gore and places you under the comments and questions. >> commissioner antonini. >> yeah. the first item is i am scheduled to increase go a surgical procure on the 16 and

won't be in attendance and there's a chance i may not be here on the 23rd and it's hard to change the scheduling of that procu procure so to gossiping give you accurate notice for the 23rd and possibly the 16. open another item i'd like to recognize that tomorrow is my fabricates a one hundred that birthday and he served as a commissioner in pleasant town and they did a good job out there if you've had the opportunity to velocity that town. they were one of the first few opportunity towns to keep their main street and enduring takes

place out in the main street and it's the site of a lot of parades and another thing they did acquit well, there me made some good improvements over the years and eliminated some buildings that were built in the 50s not have the best quality and replaced them with buildings that are in context with the more historic building be that masonry arrowwood framed. for those who are afraid of false history i think you should tack a ride out there and i can tell which the in your are but it gives it a nice appearances and it's something people like and certainly looks brnt having some modern buildings into the main street. i wanted to recognize my fathoms

transition and recognize his birthday he passed away 9 years ago but set a good example to me in service to his community >> commissioner sugaya. >> unless i missed it there was an article in the nuptial about the waterfront if we could get a status report it was in the paper it was something about assessment for water transportation all popping up. >> a the thing that peter albert was doing. >> did we hear that. >> yeah. if there's any you kind of update. >> okay. >> commissioner wu. >> thanks yesterday the mayor

issued a mayoral drive about the direction of affordable housing. i think at some point the staff will tell us how that will be implemented within the planning department >> commissioner moore. >> another bright light we all get an e-mail and this is i'm not sure i'm pronouncing this credible but opening up trains bay housing and we have especially building under the example of what we want to do. you should click through the pictures and i was happy to get that news this morning

>> commissioners if there's nothing further we can powerful on to item 11 planning commission rules and regulations. commissioners you first heard this 20 two weeks ago on december 5th with proposed amendments distributed to you at that time. you reviewed those and provided our comments back to me. i've tried to incorporate those into the proposed amendments that were forwarded to you last week. i want to make note those rules and regulations as they are before you and your consideration for adaptation today are challenged. there's a specific citing of earlier 5 of your current rules and regulations. i'd like to read

the champs that the language of the amendments were not provided to the public 10 days in advance. article 5 of your current rules and regulations states those rules and regulations maybe amended following a public hearing providing that the amendment has been calendared for at least 10 days. those proposed amendments were noticed in the december 5th calendar two weeks in advance ever this hearing. it's in my opinion those are appropriately before you and you have the right to adapt them if you wish to. the city attorney is here i've discussed it with her and she's available for questions. i want to get it out of the way >> thank you.

any other presentation or from staff about this >> i want to get that out of the way. if you choose this is not properly before you or continue the matter we, do that >> let's up that up for comment first opening it up for public comment first. >> is this on. >> (inaudible). >> what item were you referring to. >> for item 6. >> 2013 (inaudible). >> unfortunately, i didn't receive the card until after that matter was considered you would call public - >> (inaudible). >> the commission president requested if there was any

public comment on the record. >> so i ask at every item if there's public comment and we did on those as well as the continuance calendar. >> you still have the opportunity to submit our comment. >> we're discussing rules and regulations the next one is where you can express our opinion. >> calling for comment on rules and regulations. >> susan inheriting take care the person who submitted the letter. it's snultd to the public that no one goes back and watches the hearings where the planning commission said repeating there would be a special hearing a hearing starting in 2008, and 2011 at the last adoption on

appendix e peculiar adaptation. to my knowledge it's never occurred. it is then said at public and you can ask anyone who goes on the sfgovtv and watches the meetings that those hearings were on the agenda those representations were made. if commissioners don't have the time staff should. there has been no substantive hearing on the way you do deal with one week and two week hearings and how you tell public is able or not able to get documents provided to the commission. that is a enthusiast of what i've been trying to deal with since 2008. you by your rules and your practices have shrunk the amount

of hearings and the availability of the public to be informed of the hearings because the staff and are developers report are available to the public in time they can comment on. this means exception in downtown and expectations in the other area plans. expectation to the planning code are. you have a routine approval 6 days after the records are available to the public. i also question whether you are properly getting the public information when you have a 7 day rule that you effectively use as a 7 day rule to the commission. the items are not public until they're posted by the commission secretaries office.

in particular those rules were not available. your minutes of the month to month two weeks ago their rather snument. you look at those minutes and you look at the discussion on the rules two weeks ago. there is not one mention of any comment by any commissioner there is a brief list of people who exempted. comments come in a writing from the public and commission should be part of the staff report. it should have been staff report for to today. how are you describing information on amendments to the rules and questions that are raised when you don't provide them on the agenda. they're not on the agenda. the only thing is last friday at the 1 o'clock i received the amendments. its not enough to talk to

individual commissioners that you're getting into danger water and you don't have your comments many the record two weeks ago. thank you >> linda chapman. i would have appreciate the chance to read what's before you. it was evenly vertebral from the computer using the sftv computer they were unable to print it out. i wrote to the secretary and he, he sent me strange format