process. thank you. >> thank you. >> any other members of the public? >> seeing none, public comment is closed. >> chairman? >> thank you. mr. president, and thank you, for the very thoughtful conversation and suggestions and the work in the written presentations is excellent. and very, very helpful, i think to all of us, certainly to me. i would like to comment on something that a couple of people have said and i totally agree with the one size does not fit all. i have used my role as a commissioner here to look at and look out for the entire city in terms of transportation, that is the charge. and the same time being mindful of neighborhoods and groups and individuals, and circumstances that are around the city, i can assure you that it is an extremely difficult job and for us it is going to be getting much more difficult in the coming year because the transit effectiveness project will be coming out and that does involve some or one of the

speakers mentioned removing some bus stops and changes. and so there is going to be a lot of opposition to it and it is going to be tough, but ours again and we have it look out for the whole city and the case is made well for the involvement of the small business community and the work of mt a and i would like to make a suggestion that your commission, came up with 12 different suggestions and we have several as well. and i think that it would be very unwhiledy to try to deal with tonight and i would suggest that we consider asking our staffs to work together on some of the most sale ent recommendations and to come back and we could meet again in six months or three months or whatever and talk about the specific things that will show essentially how the mta reaches out to and involves the small business community early on in the process. and i would hope that something like that would you know that recommendations could come to codify some of those things and at what point do we check with

the businesses? you know? and the community. any way i would like to offer that suggestion it is not detailed of course, but it would be a way of moving forward. >> i agree with that. and maybe, check in, you know, we could dedicate a part of our commission meetings on the checking in, on what both staffs are talking about. and we both have been working on this, and your staff has been great, our staff, and i mean that there is communication now where i think a while ago there was no communication and now we are finally talking. what we we asked the director to respond to that? any thoughts on that? >> that i think is a good suggestion for us, too. we both have a listing of recommendation and directions and a lot of them are aligned and working out the finer details to are able to bring

back to both body and so our office would be amenable to that. >> and what do you think about that? >> my idea? >> i think that this the suggestion is a good one, and i think that there is a lot of common ground and i think that the common bond was the phrase used and i think that there is a lot to work with there. but, i think that for the benefit of the public, and the small business community, i think that the accountable for this process would be well served by reporting back whether as a regular part of the respectful board and commission meetings on whether we are with these number of these, and our already in progress. and but i think that the idea to come back, subsequently, and bring you updates on where we are is a great idea. >> members of the commission?

>> i think that this is a good idea, but do i want to urge if we are going in this direction that there are many issues that are extremely pressing right now to small business corridors that are actively effecting businesses. and you know, i am just a little worried that this is not going to be done in a timely manner, because i certainly know and i live and work in north beach, and that there are major issues right now, that are of great concern up to the residents and the merchants that we are aligned on. and time is of the essence anybody else? >> go ahead. >> thank you, i just wanted to thank everybody who came here and gave public comment today, i know that you probably all had much better things to do with your afternoon and i

appreciate the small business commission giving their time to us as well and i think that this was incredibly helpful. and to me, the chairman pointed out and director pointed out. we really are united in common ground and we all recognize that the small businesses make this city an amazing place to live. and we might have different opinions about what is going to guarantee the health and viability of the small businesses but i think that we are at a really good starting point where we can start to talk to each other now and i just have to speak up for family and transit. in my three years on the board, nothing upsets me more than to hear someone saying that you can't have a family in this city unless you have a car because i know that is not traou. for people who can afford cars, fabulous, if they can afford to have the children and drive around, fabulous, that is wonderful, but i ride muni a lot and i see so many families taking transit and so it is so important for all of

us to remember that by improving walkable and bikable and also, continuing to accommodate the private automobiles as we have in the history of the city that we are helping families, thank you all so much for coming and i appreciate hearing from the small business leaders in particular, thank you >> members of the board? >> director lee? >> yeah, i want to just comment on the commissioner dooley's comment that items that we need to address and we need to look at them in conjunction with the small business and otherwise the things will fall through the cracks and say let's get together six months from now and we still have the same problems facing us and i would like to make a recommendation that in the once every two months, we meet with, representatives from the small business commission, that address certain things that are popping up. >> yes. we do. >> and i think that is a great idea. >> and the one. >> and the policy in the government in the out reach. >> thank you. >> and commissioner dooley does

have a great point, and there are a couple of projects coming up right now that are effecting like especially with the central subway coming into north beach and polk street and upper market and there are somewhere our office is hearing a lot from the merchants and i think that we could just start some dialogue on those projects right now. and but, i do want to give a shout out to ed and your staff. your out reach has been phenomenal and we have heard, every since you became head of mta, now before we never heard anything and now we are hearing from you guys and i cannot tell you how much it has been appreciated. and i want to give a shout out to steve cornel because he brought this up to our commission, and what about a year ago? and that we need to start talking and it really opened my eyes and i just wanted to tell you how much i appreciated that. and it did open my eyes, because the concerns that he was having in his area.

and i was hearing, in the castro and in the valley and so, i really want to appreciate you putting this the forefront, steve i want to give you a shout out for that. >> members of the board? so what i want to do is talk to the staff about the timing and i have commissioner dooley's contact information and once we can finalize something i will reach for you. okay. >> and members, who want to speak to us on something that is not on the calendar? >> yes tl, is members of the public to address the board and commission on matters that are within the jurisdiction of the two representative agencies but not on today's calendar. we don't have any speaker cards for anyone under that section. >> anyone care to speak to the board on anything else? >> any matters that have not been discussed today whether it is with the small business commission or with the mta? >> seeing none, i think that probably time to... >> party up on the polk street. >> we have one member of the

public that would like to make a comment >> there are any other parties going around that we can go to tonight? >> businesses? >> how are you doing? >> this is first for me, i was not prepared, but, my name is abraham, and i own a part owner of a business, and on fillmore and eddie and i have, and we do have a concern with a bus stop that was put right in front of our business. and that has affected us, very much as far as business is concerned and we tried to contact the mta as far as having something done with the bus stop but we to no avail. however, we talked to the people who, the contractors that actually put the bus stop there. and they decided that they were going to move it further up and they painted everything, and then they stopped working on it.

so, it is, an issue that we are having with our business. and we have been trying to get a hold of somebody at the mta to discuss this issue, but to no avail. >> perhaps, mr. reiskin can talk to the director a bit after for a second >> thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you *, next speaker? >> scott howge,, i just want to bring up the small business community, the small business commission, has supported the task force recommendations that came out regarding the plakards that is a good example that we can work together and show some opportunities for collaboration. >> any other members of the public that would like to make a comment on something that is not on today's agenda. >> i don't see anything, mr. president. >> it looks to me like it is time to adjourn. >> i would like to thank both of the staffs and i would like to thank christian murdock and

director dick-endrizzi and for your guidance on this and director reiskin. >> and do we have a motion to adjourn? >> all in favor? >> aye. >> okay, great.

>> i'm your host of "culturewire," and today, here at electric works in san francisco. nice to see you today. thanks for inviting us in and showing us your amazing facility today. >> my pleasure. >> how long has electric works been around? >> electric works has been in san francisco since the beginning of 2007. we moved here from brisbane from our old innovation. we do printmaking, gallery shows, and we have a fabulous retail store where there are lots of fun things to find. >> we will look at all of that as we walk around. it is incredible to me how many different things you do. how is it you identify that san francisco was in need of all these different services? >> it came from stepping out of graduate school in 1972. i wrote a little thing about how this is an idea, how our world

should work. it should have printmaking, archiving, a gallery. it should have a retail store. in 1972, i wanted to have art sales, point-of-sale at the grocery store. >> so you go through the manifesto. with the bay area should have. you are making art incredibly accessible in so many different ways, so that is a good segue. let's take a walk around the facilities. here we are in your gallery space. can you tell me about the current show? >> the current show is jeff chadsey. he is working on mylar velum, a smooth, beautiful drawing surface. i do not know anyone that draws as well as he does. it is perfect, following the contours and making the shape of

the body. >> your gallery represents artists from all over, not just the bay area, an artist that work in a lot of different media. how to use some of what you look for in artists you represent? >> it is dependent on people are confident with their materials. that is a really important thing. there is enough stuff in the world already. >> you also have in his current show an artist who makes sculpture out of some really interesting types of materials. let's go over and take a look at that. here we are in a smaller space. project gallery. >> artists used the parameters of this space to find relationships between the work that is not out in the big gallery. >> i noticed a lot of artists doing really site-specific work. >> this is a pile of balloons, something that is so familiar, like a child's balloon.

in this proportion, suddenly, it becomes something out of a dream. >> or a nightmare. >> may be a nightmare. >> this one over here is even harder to figure out what the initial material is. >> this is made out of puffy paint. often, kids use it to decorate their clothes. she has made all these lines of paint. >> for the pieces we are looking at, is there a core of foam or something in the middle of these pieces that she built on top of? >> i'm not telling. >> ah, a secret. >> this silver is aluminum foil, crumbled of aluminum foil. her aesthetic is very much that quiet, japanese spatial thing that i really admire. their attention to the materiality of the things of the world.

>> this is a nice juxtaposition you have going on right now. you have a more established artists alongside and emerging artists. is that something important to you as well? >> very important in this space, to have artists who really have not shown much. now let's look at other aspects of electric works operation. let's go to the bookstore. >> ok. >> in all seriousness, here we are in your store. this is the first space you encounter when you come in off the street. it has evolved since you open here into the most amazingly curious selection of things. >> this was the project for the berkeley art museum. it was -- this is from william wiley's retrospective, when he got up onstage to sing a song, 270 people put on the cat. >> it is not just a bookstore.

it is a store. can you talk us through some of your favorites? >> these are made in china, but they are made out of cattails. >> these pieces of here, you have a whale head and various animals and their health over there, and they are jewelry. >> we do fund raisers for nonprofits, so we are doing a project for the magic theater, so there are some pretty funny cartoons. they are probably not for prime time. >> you sort of have a kind of holistic relationship where you might do merchandise in the store that promotes their work and practice, and also, prince for them. maybe we should go back and look at the print operation now. >> let's go. >> before we go into the print shop, i noticed some incredible items you have talked back here. what are we standing in front

of? >> this is william wiley, only one earth. this is a print edition. there are only eight total, and what we wanted to do was expand the idea of printmaking. this is really an art object. there we go. >> besides the punball machine, what do you produce in limited edition? >> there is the slot machine. if you win the super jackpot, you have saved the world. >> what about work? >> the right design, it was three volumes with lithographs in each volume. the cab of count dracula with 20 lithographs inside and lined

with beaver fur. really special. >> let's move on to the print shop. >> ok. the core of what we do is making things. this is an example. this is a print project that will be a fund-raiser for the contemporary music players. we decided to put it in the portfolio so you could either frame at or have it on your bookshelf. >> so nonprofits can come to you, not just visual are nonprofits, but just nonprofits can come to you, and you will produce prints for them to sell, and the profits, they can keep. >> the return on investment is usually four times to 10 times the amount of investment. this is for the bio reserve in mexico, and this is one of the artists we represent. >> you also make prints for the artists that you represent.

over here are some large prints by a phenomenal artist. >> he writes these beautiful things. anyone who has told you paradise is a book of rules is -- has only appeared through the windows. this is from all over coffee. we are contract printers for all kinds of organizations all across the country. >> thank you very much for showing us around today. i really appreciate you taking the time to let me get better acquainted with the operation and also to share with our "culturewire" team. >> hi. welcome to san francisco. stay safe and exploring how you can stay in your home safely after an earthquake. let's look at

common earthquake myths. >> we are here at the urban center on mission street in san francisco. we have 3 guest today. we have david constructional engineer and bill harvey. i want to talk about urban myths. what do you think about earthquakes, can you tell if they are coming in advance? >> he's sleeping during those earthquakes? >> have you noticed him take any special? >> no. he sleeps right through them. there is no truth that i'm aware of with harvey that dogs are aware of an impending earthquake. >> you hear the myth all the time. suppose the dog helps you get up, is it going to help you do something >> i hear they are aware of

small vibrations. but yes, i read extensively that dogs cannot realize earthquakes. >> today is a spectacular day in san francisco and sometimes people would say this is earthquake weather. is this earthquake weather? >> no. not that i have heard of. no such thing. >> there is no such thing. >> we are talking about the weather in a daily or weekly cycle. there is no relationship. i have heard it's hot or cold weather or rain. i'm not sure which is the myth. >> how about time of day? >> yes. it happens when it's least convenient. when it happens people say we were

lucky and when they don't. it's terrible timing. it's never a good time for an earthquake. >> but we are going to have one. >> how about the ground swallowing people into the ground? >> like the earth that collapsed? it's not like the tv shows. >> the earth does move and it bumps up and you get a ground fracture but it's not something that opens up and sucks you up into haddes. >> it's not going anywhere. we are going to have a lot of

damage, but this myth that california is going to the ocean is not real. >> southern california is moving north. it's coming up from the south to the north. >> you would have to invest the million year cycle, not weeks or years. maybe millions of years from now, part of los angeles will be in the bay area. >> for better or worse. >> yes. >> this is a tough question. >> those other ones weren't tough. >> this is a really easy challenge. are the smaller ones less stress? >> yes. the amount released in small earthquakes is that they are so small in you need many of those. >> i think would you probably have to have maybe hundreds of

magnitude earthquakes of 4.7. >> so small earthquakes are not making our lives better in the future? >> not anyway that you can count on. >> i have heard that buildings in san francisco are on rollers and isolated? >> it's not true. it's a conventional foundation like almost all the circumstances buildings in san francisco. >> the trans-america was built way before. it's a pretty conventional foundation design. >> i have heard about this thing called the triangle of life and up you are supposed to go to the edge of your bed to save yourself. is there

anything of value to that ? >> yes, if you are in your room. you should drop, cover and hold onto something. if you are in school, same thing, kitchen same thing. if you happen to be in your bed, and you rollover your bed, it's not a bad place to be. >> the reality is when we have a major earthquake the ground shaking so pronounced that you are not going to be able to get up and go anywhere. you are pretty much staying where you are when that earthquake hits. you are not going to be able to stand up and run with gravity. >> you want to get under the door frame but you are not moving to great distances. >> where can i buy a richter scale? >> mr. richter is selling it. we are going to put a plug in

for cold hardware. they are not available. it's a rather complex. >> in fact we don't even use the richter scale anymore. we use a moment magnitude. the richter scale was early technology. >> probably a myth that i hear most often is my building is just fine in the loma prieta earthquake so everything is fine. is that true ? >> loma prieta was different. the ground acceleration here was quite moderate and the duration was moderate. so anyone that believes they survived a big earthquake and their building has been tested is sadly mistaken. >> we are planning for the bigger earthquake closer to san francisco and a fault totally

independent. >> much stronger than the loma prieta earthquake. >> so people who were here in '89 they should say 3 times as strong and twice as long and that will give them more of an occasion of the earthquake we would have. 10 percent isn't really the threshold of damage. when you triple it you cross that line. it's much more damage in earthquake. >> i want to thank you, harvey, thanks pat for