going to be creating a lot of problems blocking our view >> (speaking foreign language.) >> now they we can joy the sunshine and fresh air, however, if that plan goes through we don't know what's going to happen. >> (speaking foreign language.) >> >> furthermore, the two-story building we've really exposed ourselves and it hinders our privacy. >> (speaking foreign language.) >> ms. toy here is very timid

and didn't like people who can watch over her so she'll be force to close the windows. >> (speaking foreign language.) >> and also needs to close the shade and bring in less sunlight. >> (speaking foreign language.) >> in our neighborhood where we, see the single-family dwellings being small houses, however, the renovation proposed

will have 8 rooms and that looks like a multiple building unit. >> (speaking foreign language.) >> well, you know, we are asking that may be one story renovation would be best we're not opposed to it. >> (speaking foreign language.) >> thank you. >> would you like to state your name for the record speaker. >> (speaking foreign language.) >> i'm patrick i represent madam toy. >> thank you. thank you >> okay. we can hear from the

permit holder or his agent. thanks >> good evening commissioner. the project manager for the gentleman since we started when we starred the project with mr. low we went there and took a long time the lighting and the open space and the neighborhood. we consider it then we come up >> can you stop for one minute. >> it's important you translate this to the parties what's being said now. go ahead. you can continue thank you

>> and after that we can get a basic plan and go to the planning department to get a review and consider with the independence and discuss the opinion and all of those things we have been concerned about. i have been there for 20 years i'm the first time to come to the dr because we have to do the review we take all the information and we mate a very good process. a that's my first comment here then i start the project. and first of all, mr. lawson the mixed neighbor on the southeast side and the 25 third street and

i have a picture we took in the morning. i can put it someplace >> overhead please are. >> this is the background this is the sunlight. in the morning the sun from the east side so there's the backyard faces the southeast you can see the light here from the back so you can see my finger here let's see. so this is the part over here

and the next door neighbor the sun is from the east side and the second is blocking by you their own. that's 10 o'clock in the morning you're not going to tell me this is not going to block the sin. the sun from the southeast side how can you tell me it is blocking the sunlight it didn't make sense for the morning. so in the evening this is the northeast side no, the north west side. so the front door faces the northwest side and the sun's on

this side in front of the house and this is 3 blocks away i know the hill you can't even see the front door they still have the limited sunlight because of the building. so it didn't mean this is the last building block the sunlight in the front and even in the back. i'm sorry they're not from the neighbor themselves or the location of the house. of the view or whatever stuff like that. i don't think the sunlight to block the area for the sin light and the window. there's a window too. that's the window from the morning blocked from here. so then is from the morning >> so there's sunlight you

don't know i don't think you can make anything from that. another one is joined from that. okay. that's the plan in here we sold the sun basically this the the east side. the east side this is the backyard on the - this is the part right here per we didn't block anything from the sunlight here. in the evening and afternoon they come through here straight through here and not blocked from the jazz property. the sun goes through here not like straight the sun goes here and blocks from the view of the

other building. from follow the hue so that means we block the light in her. the second wall that the privacy. okay. the privacy before we do the - before the assist building the one floor that sits in the back. so you guys saw the picture it's in the back and there's a slope down to the backyard because of the hue. they can say you know the

privacy i'm not in the bottom it looks to the window of the top floor here i'm not looking at that. i'm not straight with the angle because i have to go here to look at your window so i don't think it bothers the privacy. then the stairway wall that's the part that we look into next door >> okay at the. >> okay. thank you. i have a question. the lowest portion of your building is that a crawl space or a basement space? >> that's a crawl space it's really tiny and it is like the

garden two room there because it's basically because of the hue this space here. >> i understand what our adding. there's no access to the crawl space >> just from the back from the yard no access there. thank you >> thank you. >> thank you. mr. sanchez >> it didn't show anything. >> good afternoon. the subject property is on brussel street it's 25 feet whitehead that's typical of most properties on the block but shorter it's 88 feet deep. the appellants property is one

hundred 25 feet deep. prior to 0 an application they're required to do a community outreach program. this was performed and there's no interest noted in the project at that time, it was submitted in april of 2013 and the notification was committed between august and november and there was no discretionary requests. the appellant has raised issues related to view which is not protected under the code but we look at the guidelines and minimizing impacts on adjacent properties. the staff planner noted the extension is a notable extension and it also extends larger than boo larger slowing into the lot

and the staff planner took this to the design team and this is our in-house design he team for guidelines. the staff planner noted they had a 6 foot photo side lot and it was adequate, however, they kwid requested a change at the rear of the building and they noticeably proposed a permit but they required a fire roof so this lowered the height of the building so this was an adjacent set back it was up to the department for the design guidelines. the issues i share the permit he holders claims i think it will have a minimum overlook impact

on the direct light. the subject property is located to the northwest of the appellants property and therefore given the addition wouldn't have a direct you light impact but on the rear yard during the afternoon hours but no impact during the morning hours. the view is not protected i noticed the materials that was submitted by the appellant it has a minimal impact on their view to the north. so looking at the photographs submitted by the appellant this building i'm sorry this building here you notice an appendix here >> sorry. we got it

>> so the building with the appendage here the building i believe from the plans and from the other photograph that she's the appendage here i mark that appendage here the appellants view corridor at least to the north has an minimal impact and this was something i was reviewing the case and it's not protected under the planning code but i don't know if they've had the opportunity to discuss this with the permit holder but

it's in code and it adequately protects the light if you have any questions, we'll be happy to answer them. thank you >> thank you, mr. duffey nothing. any public comment on this item >> i have a quick question on the impact of the yard is that our concern from planning. >> that's an excellent question. it definitely can be. in this case it's a quite large rear yard and in the district we have a 25 percent yard requirement this is the casting of the shadows on and there's a larger rear yard so the impact to the use ability s is minimal >> that's i but that's taking

into consideration if the shadows wouldn't impact the building but a larger percentage of the yard would be considered. >> definitely it could be considered by the residential design team if it is self officially entangled and never having light the design team would consider in planning the code. >> got it thank you. >> okay. any any public comment on this item? >> seeing none, then we give ritual to the parties so the parties have 3 minutes of ritual time. >> we have 10 neighbors all close to each other. >> you want to put it on the

overhead. >> yes. can you adjust the overhead to bring the picture out? >> thank you. >> that's great. thank you >> >> (speaking foreign language.) >> >> all the - >> turn into multiple building. the sheet from the neighborhood those that neighborhoods opposing to a single e single-family home with the

potential to turning it into multiple units >> (speaking foreign language.) >> excuse me. >> (speaking foreign language.) >> so from my point of view i got all this people who are in agreement with me that's why they signed their name on this sheet of paper. >> (speaking foreign language.) >> and i would point out that the argument that the building is not going to block my view is

false. >> (speaking foreign language.) >> it is 2 1/2 feet longer than my house. >> again, i'm sorry speaking half chinese and english is hard for me to translate. >> (speaking foreign language.) >> okay. the statement is the existing house is 2 to 2 one half feet longer than ourself ours, however, the diagram is evenly in length that's incorrect. >> (speaking foreign language.) >> the current 2 and a half

feet already block our view and we can only have minimum view now. >> (speaking foreign language.) >> and then, you know, if you have proposing adding 16 more that feet we're going to have blockage of 18 and a half feet and that would take off maybe a larger portion of our view. one quarter - half >> (speaking foreign language.) >> well, the house only 20 feet long and they're proposing there will be doubling our

length. >> (speaking foreign language.) >> and the building is erected that will block the view from our yard. now we can look over our yard and see a lot of space and if the building is going to be erected it definitely block the view >> (speaking foreign language.) >> yeah, and in that case all we can see in our backyard is the wall from the neighbor. >> (speaking foreign language.) >> it with that way of life we can't enjoy our barbecue from our backyard and view my also, you know, it may hinder the flow of air.

>> (speaking foreign language.) >> well, we, use the barbecue in the patio then we have to go down further and that will be a waste. >> (speaking foreign language.) >> thank you. >> (speaking foreign language.) >> and in addition even now sometimes they past their caesar car over to our property and if they're going to do something we may not have a parking space at

all. >> (speaking foreign language.) >> thank you. >> okay. thank you mr. you, you have 3 minutes of rebuttal. >> according to the neighbor we have to the photograph on the map and you see all the neighbor here so only it block only two of the properties and most of the pop outs are right here. so even we have a neighbor character we don't do the house scale just the normal people most of the people in the block

can only have two properties that's how we do it in here. this the sunlight i say this before there is no way to a block the sunlight either in the front or back. the hue even the front and probable in the front they have only limited sunlight because of the hue. i was there. i know the sun you can't. even from all the house do we block in the view for the and no way. i explain about the neighbor only the character of the neighbor most of the other pop out effects. thank you >> i have a couple of questions, mr. hue. >> i have a question.

>> yes. >> would a pretty large estimation did you have any outreach to the neighborhood and we did that. we ordered the lease and to the neighbors and come to the meetings >> and did anyone show up at the meetings. >> the tv here some of the number that cross the street at the light. >> okay. so - >> not even here in the 7 block. >> okay. thank you. >> thank you. >> anything mr. sanchez? thank you scott sanchez i wanted to mention that that one of the issues raised by the appellant was with regards to privacy and noting on the extension on the

side of the extension facing the appellant there will be no windows and if anything the windows at the rear building are essentially being moved back so there's more privacy at least into their rear yard and also this shows the reduction in height where it was removed as requested by the department. i'm available for any questions >> commissioners. the matter is submitted. what are those documents on the perfumed no on where the microphone is? okay. thank you. comments. commissioners >> commissioners a couple of general comments. one this appears to be a key lot

the appellant lot is quite a bit longer and if they want to expand their home. they can do it. two comments one by the va and one by the commissioners perhaps refers to a sizeable edition but once you look at those are relatively small homes we have homes that are 25 feet by 40 feet roughly per floor. the - this block is quite different than the adjacent lot where the buildings are much larger and extend further into the yard but besides that the four issues that have been raised by the appellant one is that illegal units potentially

on the ground floor. i know that the access to the garden room occurs on the garden and there's no access. as mentioned the privacy there are no windows on that wall that faces them and in terms of direct sunlight i'm in agreement that the orientation does not provide a direct impact of shadows onto the rear of the appellant that building. the fourth item is the issue the potential blockage of a portion of the view and that's new. i would hazard to guess given the way housing is in san francisco this particular block is going to see some pressure to

a greater expansion and it could be a little bit of a domino effect. but based on the comments i've made and the fact it is co- compliant i don't see a reason either to massage the current scope or design or to revoke the permit >> anything else. >> i agree with commissioner hwang. >> do we have a motion. >> i'm going to move to deny the appeal. >> is that because it's code immigra compliant. >> yes. >> we have a motion implicit commissioner fung to up hold this