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enforcement. we get complaints of off-hour clubs. that's why talking with the clubs if they're going to be operating from 6 to 12 how many people can stay up especially with the drugs, you know, with the drug arrest it's just a few months ago there was a larger fight where the staff in monroe had to deal with a crazy person that was on drugs and they brought the subject to the hospital and he broke 9 nose of the nurse. so i want the staff to take the different courses they can take through the abc to find out if someone is on drugs so they have more acknowledging whether we want someone in the bar
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>> do you know what specific venues they are and on broadway we have two monroe and cosmo. >> do you know is there like 50 or one hundred. >> it varies because i had a number of officers saying what's going on there used to be a quiet saturday or sunday morning and now they see a large crowd. the crowd could be 50 or one hundred >> okay. >> all right. thank you. any other last comments >> how many times of the atmosphere i mean i hear once a month have you talked to, you know, the owners there as well on their currency security or improvements because it seems to me we hear a lot about atmosphere. >> i would say this is between
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the meeting the entertainment commission that goes back to mid october or november. it's a snapshot but we've spoken with them with jocelyn and cam i didn't just to see the corrective action they can take. you know, for whatever reason, you know, problems solving to see what we can do to make the situation better. the one thing with all the people fighting that was out of the ordinary. i was talking to any lieutenant regarding it >> so you think it's not so much skirt but maybe the type of events or, you know, i mean when you mediate those things we go through it as well i mean can we
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come to some kind of conclusion it keeps happening, you know, obviously, you know, the director, you know, does have to do something about it. >> right there's been different actions on problem solving. why is this happening you should have a club that doesn't need police. is it the entertainment you're having or the drink specialize we you talked about the bottle service or the drink service we really work outside as far as keeping the lines so the sidewalk is not blocked. are there overcrowding issues. we're trying to problem solve to see what we can do to improve it >> okay. >> just really quickly to
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follow up. are they taking care of the sidewalks >> the sidewalks i've been happy with. >> that's what i thought. there's been improvements so is it a particular promoter >> i'm not sure who the promoter for that night. >> okay at the. >> okay. >> thank you, officer. any public comment on the police report? seeing noneseeing none - oh, there is one. when i ask that just get up and raise our hand >> i - happy new year i'm the owner of club monroe a club that was in question. i want to make some that concludes my presentation about the activities that or the party. first for the party buses. the party buses in question were
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actively from a college fraternity they were 18 and over and the portfolio for this is to have the party buses registered for the event for thursday at the latest. they get a little madam chair or printout that they basically put in front of the party bus so the police know this party bus is okay. the portfolio for the party bus is also to go have a squared go on the bus and check out the crowd to make sure they're not intoxicated and they're basically broken up in groups of 10 or 15.
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so we call the club owners and that's what we've been doing. as far as the morning parties i'm the club owner i'm there ever morning sunday morning and the reason i'm there i know the type of crowd that's going to be there. i don't right lane on my staff i want to make sure they're not too intoxicated. i've been doing this for two years and there's no incident for the past two months. one was the person that was actually taken out. we had the fight on camera. no one talked or did anything to him he just decided to start fighting. we carried him outside and
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called the police he was rejecting and they took him to the hospital and he assaulted a nurse. one last thing the last one was a person was rejected and he wouldn't leave we held him down and he give up and started fighting with our security guard. if we call the cops for help we try to do a good operation and run a clean operation and basically, when we ask for help - >> that's your time. >> i have a point of information. can you tell me how many nights a week monroe is open >> we're opened wednesday from 6:00 to 2:00 and thursday we were open again 6 to 2 and
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fridays now we open at the 10 but now in three weeks 6 to two and saturdays 10 to 2. >> so you mean 6:00 a.m. >> no 6:00 p.m. >> so sunday you're open 6:00 a.m. to two. >> to 12. >> okay. so you're going into competition and any other any public comment on the police report seeing none, public comment is closed. >> we have a special presentation by the san francisco police department regarding charter section 10 b of the administrator code.
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i didn't as background information this is purely a discussion item that's forgotten for our commission so i appreciate you're being here today. we're not planning on tacking any action to the any public comment? maybe otherwise. we have comments in the supervisors office so whatever i have to present and a - >> i'm a sergeant. as you know the m b program is under the officers of the administrator code b it's been adapted since 1973 the mayor signed it into the administrator
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code back no 1973 and was amended and currently governors the hiring of police services. who can make those requests any organizations can ask for additional police services. a request can be made for additional police personnel and other equipment and k9 and dignitary protection and motorcycles and other materials in the police department to aid the public for their needs. also under the provision of 10 b is a language for the use of the dispatchers for large city events that require additional dispatchers to be put into service. their cost recovery comes under
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that code. additionally the code is the street cleaning for the parking and traffic for the mta for the department for their traffic control. the 10 b unit is centralized on the floor across from the field operations control. we have one captain and two sergeants. what comes through this. the first time that comes to mind is the movies and films. any requirements they have for the shooting of movies we work in concert with the film commission with their requirements what they're going to need for the filming to take place. they generally need our motorcycle unit.
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we can't get the motorcycle officers we call on the motorcycle you officers and if not we try to get the regular officers with their bikes to perform the needs. next thing we provide services for is construction. throughout it city there's numerous construction projects and through the mta to - the construction companies are required to have mitigation for pedestrian concerns through their permitting a their required to hire additionally police services or for parking and traffic control. businesses commercial businesses and shopping mauls and retail stores and private firms they can higher our police services for additional needs. event in the city conventions.
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we provide police services through 10 b for oracle. moscone center there the numerous conventions they have through their own services they hire us for those events. supporting events in the city baseball and the world series all-star games and football at least 8 home games unfortunately they're going down to santa clara. successor games down to candle stick park and not to mention the various runs and the data breakers and swimming events our marine unite is taxes out along with the other police services.
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we have strictly the treasure island music they require additional services and they seek us out. private weddings and parties venues and store oakland maritime support services and product releases they call us for additional services. how does the process work any person can call our unit and ask for our services and we'll give them american people estimate. the construction as i mentioned earlier through the permitting there mta they make their requirements based on their estimate and size of the project as to how it is going to impact the contingent and pedestrians so to make it safe for everybody they'll make the recommendations and the construction your
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company will contact us. special events. the street closures generally the process that works for that if an organizer is going to have an event they seek out the district station. they have confidence with the event sergeant and the captain at the district station and through the permitting that governors the street closures they meet and they come to an understanding what police services are noted and if ten b services are permitted then the organizations seek us out for whatever staffing has been agreed upon. same would go for the racess and things they wouldn't contact the district station sergeant corey
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deals with the speciality of dealing with the traffic and they workout mite whatever traffic and whatever is needed to make the event save. some of the things that are considered when they go to the permitting the type of event the scope and how many attendees are going to be there. if they had it last year was the staffing and safety plan was it met? was it too much can they scale it back or were there things to add into the current year. paramount. how does it impact the city. those who don't attend the event have the same right to enjoy
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their space so those considerations have to be addressed while they're figuring out what needs are going to be met for that. what resources does the traffic and other agencies are going to be needed. as we have the data breakers that covered many, many district and a required many, many different services throughout our department. america's cup was there it tax the out our division and we had the marine services out on the water making it save for those venues. and then those are going to be alcohol served and to what degree is it beer or hard liquor is it open to the public is it a
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paid event all those services are taken into consideration. after the permit is approved the district station will formulate an operational plan and reviewed by the captain of the station then forwarded up to the chain and those chiefs sign off and make adjustments. once it's signed off the organize next year's come to us and we provide them with a written statement of the cost. once they agree upon the costs we hire the officers and they give us a deputy and the billing goes out. any questions >> i think there are probably
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some questions. >> can i ask one quick question. >> sure. >> i'm glad you broke counsel the rates for the number of officers that are requested. is scott make the final number the actual number of officers >> it's notes cot it's the agreement based on all the entities involved with east cot. whether it be parking and traffic or abc whatever entities have a stake in that event how it's going to impact in those meetings make some agreement to what the appropriate staffing for police and/or whatever agencies. is everything you said written down somewhere so people can have is a guideline or guidebook so this is how i can estimate for myself
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>> in the administrator code it's not written down to the exact dollar amount but what it is for the time and a hoof. >> but the process. >> yes. it's no our department manual and in the traffic code or the transportation code 6.6 that outlines thees cot and how much to be charged. commissioner joseph and then commissioner hyde >> i used 10 b a lot. in this past year i had an opportunity to use the k9 units after the boston bombing we used them for pride and i'm a dog lover they won't let me pet them. so i have a question 10 b is requested and you present them
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to the proefrment what's the process to come to some further agreement like for instance, there's a hypothetical street fair you think we can sgo do this with four officers and not 10 how do you resolve those issues. >> there's a process in the transportation code for them to ask for resolution and there's also the permit officers and the sergeant special event sergeant at the station work with the promoters to come to a resolution. it's generally considered outside how many police and other private security to hire to mitigate some of those
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concerns >> so it's subjective as to the captain of the station and the permit officer. >> they would be one of the first stops in this process. >> okay. thank you. >> commissioner hyde. >> hi, thanks for coming out. >> you're welcome and so there's a centralized office is that a new development. i had - and a prior to november of last year not 2013, 2012 it was disseminated at the station there was coordinated saeshths that dealt with those needs but in november of 2012 it was all centralized >> and what was the idea of strel it. i'm trying to figure out you can't what the need >> that was a decision made and a deputy hoffman they wanted to
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be able to centralize the resources so if we dealt with data breakers we were directly in connection with f organization b cross the hall. >> you also said people directly all and higher 10 b especially for weddings and stuff like that. i understand that often a small party or stuff like that can then have steno b placed upon them without their request is that true? like if it was a small fundraiser i police can say you need 10 b officers and this is the need >> i believe without any requirement to hire 10 b be it
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there be some type of permitting if there's going to be a lane closure those would require an investigation. >> so like a fundraiser and a small venue. >> the only time a small venue if there's a consideration for alcohol. it would be a consideration >> and then i was wondering another thing that i know that recalling sales force had a event plainer he got an itemized billy said he hadn't seen an itemized bill for 10 b officers. do itemized bills go out to
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everyone that used 10 b officers >> i can't speak for 0 them but since the office has been centralized they're given r given a estimate. we have no idea to know how long an event is going to be if their event is more than 10 hours it will be more or if less then less. it's an estimate but resourcefully it's close iowa to wasn't they're going to pay >> someone pays a down payment and there's a certain amount of officers assigned. is it true that the officers are required to show up that day?
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>> if - >> i'm asking questions that have been brought to me. a few people had said there are a certain number of officers assigned to a party or street fire. is it the number of officers that are assigned are they guaranteed to show up and have that many officers there >> we do our very best to provide what's requested of us. 10 b is a volunteer participation there's inform mandate. if we seek anti 10 officers sign up the only thing that will prevent them from showing up is they're sick. for some reason we're not able to staff the event we give that
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information to the event coordinated >> again according to there are certain street fairs that are grand father. >> yes. >> there's some discussion but generally there's this kind of set number they'll continue to use year after year. >> i spoke to cindy earlier today about that it was in the e-mail communication. there are certain event the grandfathered events that you speak of. under the transportation code 6.6 there's a pay scale for police services so that pay scale is used for the textbook b services or police services for that event. she told me what happens is if the event has changed and we'll
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speak of the alley event. that was originally grandfathered in but that event changed its footprint it expand to cover the event it was larger additional services on top of that scale price would be asked for >> i'm glad you brought that up one of the things i know when dorsey alley was he will having trouble for public services concerns they noted to expand the street. they now have a number of similar number of officers they have at the, if you will, u folsom street fair. are there like size consideration and number of patrons that go into it.
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>> the scheduling of the etc. cot there's 23 hundred and 50 thousand and more than 2 hundred and 50 attendees would be the difference in pricing. >> you said there's certain guidelines for certain parties if they feel there's a certain party that might be out of control there're more. >> i know there are discussions and is alcohol going to be served and what kind of alcohol is that a public event or paid event to determine exactly you know how many people are going to be there and how long the alcohol is going to be served and a okay. and finally. thank you very much for fielding all those questions. i'm just wondering is there an
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amount of time that the organization has to be novelist of when 10 b is going to, required of them >> i believe in the transportation code 6 there's a deadline in there i believe a couple of weeks prior to the event they finally lists the permitting. >> can 10 b added to that later. >> i believe if something changes. >> thank you very much. >> other commissioners comments. >> real quick. so the time of progress an event is planned a year in advance. so usually security needs are sdugsdz to whenes cot is doing their thing and the captains are trying to figure out how much security the officers needed what's the actual timeline that's