on my first day of director of the music and culture organizations >> feeling a little bit under the weather but i want to speak for you members while we applaud commissioner hydes effort to bring this sensitive subject to a public forum we want to encourage everyone to take a citywide approach and looking at the departmental costs not only with the 10 b program but with the parks that are having a negative impact on our promoters inability to host open air events especially free events. we think now is the time especially with the councilmember kersey new expanded e ic now is the time to

take into account that on a serious level >> thank you (calling names). >> good evening i'm with the harvey milk club. i'm going to let tom talk about the specifics. as you all know the milk club has been concerned with the entertainment and night life and how they effect the characteristic of the city. i hear about large promoters very appreciative in ms. holiday made a good point they've worked well, with the station and it's been a plus for harvey stricker bluegrass but for events on a shoe string this is a problem.

we've been in discussions with united players also the number of police are arbitrary and inxhicht we want to put-down some lodge behind those procedures. i know that smaller events are forced to leave the city it's not tied into 10 b but 9 book fair that was held inside the fair building for at least 10 years has had to move to oakland because the recreation and parks are issuing recks. and i urge you to consider 10 b in terms of making that a reasonable and logistical

application >> (calling names) and after that we're happy to take other members. >> i'm president of the harvey milk club. hard french is a promotion group that we produce in terms of attendees and budget relatively small community orientated events. every year we provide a signature event we're aiming to keep our prices low so people who don't have a lot of funds can get in and hopefully to grow ourselves to create bigger events. our first pride party we somehow grafted together of the funds

for a street closure and the associated costs with 10 b offers officers additional coupled with the venue security and all the things were you mean so cost prohibit active we didn't turn a profit and we have not revisited the opportunity to do any larger scale outdoor events. we would like to grow to the point where getting to be with folks in the fulsome provider that focuses on the community event we can't consider at this point. so any efforts on the part of the commissions to make street closures to try to do something with the costs of 10 b to make it easier for us to throw event

for the community would be greatly appreciate >> any other any public comment on this issue. if you are please go ahead and line up >> president tan and i'm mark. i have a real mixture feeling. i think in certain events i'm involved with the harvey strictly it's amazing how the police officers coordinate that that event but i'm called back to any memory of an electronic dance event where we ended up in federal court because at the last minute the police decided they needed one hundred and 50 police officers. now 10 b is running money.

they won't give you one but 2 we're close to $300 an hour so you have a two hour event your wiping out about 90 percent of the fence that could be done in san francisco. we settled for 10 officers and that's quite a bit when ms. holiday said she had half a million people with 10 offered. it's pulling numbers out of the hat if you don't like it sorry. sometimes, it's done at the last minute like a harvey street party. i've been if n involved if the hate street council for many

years and i see the costs from the city are going up and we're getting to the point we can't afford it and we're grandfathered in so thank you >> any other last minute comment. seeing none, public comment is closed >> i think commissioner joseph go ahead. >> i want to say i live on a 1 block street up in the hills and this past summer and i don't know if the sunday street people were behind this doing community play streets but the folks on my street got together we got a bunch of barricades delivered and we closed off half the street and all the neighborhoods got together and put up a bounce i didn't house and people brought out a couple i have boom

boxes and we had a party in the street. nobody sold anything. the neighbors got to know each other. i'm not sure that's the kind of play streets you're talking about but it was a great event. i've lived on any streets 16 years. so i didn't take a lot of money to do that and which we didn't have 10 b. i acquired of my next door neighbor if she got a street closure and she said she did. i guess there's certain street closures that don't require 10 b. if itself inconsistent you know, i think i have a problem with paid security. someone said paid security so if

theirs volunteers who are supposed to be - is it proposed to be paid security because folsom have people that are not pied >> i think they were referring to an event in a hotel. >> other paid security. i thought 234er7 talking about all right. then in a venue it's different. you know, in ail honest i've had nothing but great experiences with 10 b so i don't know what to say about that. it's costly and the administrator fees tacked on is costly but at the end of the day they also turned out great and i do some great big events. i just used 10 b and they did

their job and we had a lot of people >> i don't know if that's the same experience. >> is there any other commissioner comments. >> commissioner lee. >> to add to that. basically, the police officer do a good job. we not saying the police shouldn't be here but the problem is putting the budget together and getting the costs established. at least a few months in advance if 43 they have to have this amount of offers o officers let's have the money together. i'm not sure saying their have a problem with m b i'm saying citywide to help the other nonprofits that might not be

considering to have an event. that's ail we're saying we need the police to be there there are a deterrent maybe they didn't sign up for enough officers maybe the sheriff's can fill in. if they could streamline the process and figure out the costs ahead of time and there'sly way to a your the fact they can still raise the money 38 they might be short $20,000 but it's better to know that ahead of time and a commissioner akers. the process now is the community or the promoter doesn't have a choice in using or utilizing the

sheriff's department and side police department so the police have the first right of roughly and that rarely comes up. and that's an issue to maybe look at. how to give more flexibility to venues and preordainment's that are on a tighter budget if there's an open book process, you know, some process where people on a budget could use the sheriff's department. commissioner hyde did you want to say something. i want to reiterate this is not something that the commission can change or regulate. it's the reason i have asked that we tube it because people kept ask me to talk about it. and i would like to say i know i really wanted folsom event to be

here. i know they have dorsey alley that's two blocks and has almost the same amount of 10 b officers because they've expanded for all of folsom street that is 7 or 8 blocks long. i don't understand how their can be that sort of discrepancy because i don't think that's in the cities best interest making sure we can continue to house culture events with tax dollars and adhere neighborhoods together and adhere communities together i wanted to hear this because i think that is a concern that the entertainment commission should be aware of. i really wanted to thank

everyone who came out and shared their knowledge as well as their how 10 b has worked for them. so thanks so much. we have a couple of other agenda items. thank you, everyone for coming if you were coming her specifically for this item. we're not going to act on it today but clearly that's been issues we'll look into more outside of this meeting but in interest of time we'll move on. item 6 is the impossible action regarding our permits. i'm going to hand it over to our colleague. >> the colleagues are here. their requesting to continue

their entertainment permitted. i've completed the application several months ago but due to some scheduling conflicts it turned out the application was not heard so we want to make sure that happened. they've been in business over thirty years and their permit was slightly outdated because it was juan torres and now the staff at that time, felt it noted to be updated so they went through the entire process and got their sign offices. the new permit officer has not had a chance to visit the restaurants but he understands the commission needs to act >> great ms. torres. >> she doesn't speak english. i'm the manager the night club

and we've been returning the club for 35 years now >> okay. great. are there any police to speak to this? yeah. why don't i have a seat if we have questions we'll come back >> i'm inspector keller and the police department has no issues with = cap at the. >> great commissioners you have any questions for the applicant or police. great. is there any public comment on this >> seeing none. >> - oh, there is. >> nope false alarm. >> i'm happy to take a motion.

>> i move to accept this permit. >> a second. >> a motion and second let's take a vote. i want to say one thing. i know you've been in business for a long time i'll say on our neighborhood outreach it's all businesses and it might help you to get more businesses and fit into the neighborhood a little bit better if you went it to a small business stuff like that especially as we get more crowded. >> so on the motion to approve the permit. commissioner akers. commissioner joseph. commissioner lee. commissioner campagnoli. and president tan >> so moved. congratulations the permit has been approved. so let's move on

>> so item b was doing bus as and next the bar. we understood she was trying to come but she was injured earlier today but she has the farrell street bar on larkin street. she's looking for a bill yard permit. she wants everyone to know this is the oldest bar in san francisco. we have no oxygen to this application >> commissioner you have a question. >> no. any other commissioners that have questions that staff could

answer and a i'm sorry mrs. graft is here >> come on up. you want to tell us about >> i want to thrill i've been at the location for 14 years and to request some of my regulars i'm applying for a pool permit. >> go ahead and have a seat. any police officers questions or comments about this permit >> all right. go ahead and have a seat. is there any public comment? on this? is there one >> i think it's for someone else. >> crystal can you grab that

speaker card. all right. i guess there's no any public comment? about this. the matter is now with the commission. any motion >> move to approve. >> second. second >> second by commissioner perez. >> to approval that commissioner perez. commissioner akers. commissioner hyde. commissioner joseph. commissioner lee. commissioner campagnoli. president tan >> so moved. all right. we are going to move on to of d >> the lease doing business is also requesting a bill yard. some of you remember this was not two long ago she wants those

permits and the englewood station has no opposition to the application >> do you want to tell you about why you're applying. >> i've had the hall for years and it's great to have other things for people to do other than drink. they come in and play hack man and play pool. i've had a team in the past that wins the championship and i want to maybe get better at pool myself and a commissioner joseph >> i have one question. you have a pack man machine and a pool table now. i have had it for 2 1/2 years >> when did you feel you needed

a permit. >> i went to city hall and i authenticity i paid for the entertainment permit but they said there was a lapse because the former owner paid for the bill yard hall permit earlier but it changed ownership and there was a miss convulsion he still owns the pool table and the pack man machine. >> who told you that someone from our office. >> no someone in the cashiers office. so i have a question for staff. if the vendor owns the bill yard table did the venue still need the permit and i thought so. if i would have known i would

have applied earlier >> i know you answered the question. >> thank you. >> any other questions. nope and is there anyone in evenly side station or the the police >> officer submitted his recommendation. >> there's no conditions on it. is there any any public comment? about this. you can go ahead and have a seat. seeing none, public comment is closed. commissioners have to take a motion >> i move to approve. >> second. a motion and a second >> same house, same call? yes marry so moved. >> all right. so we are going to move on to item no. 7. which is -

>> i'm sorry we might have to have you make a motion on the continuance of item b i think you mumbled a continuance. >> so this is item 6 b. >> so i move to continue item 6 b to the next meeting. >> second. same house, same call? . okay. good to go >> good eye. thanks for catching that. now, it's item 7 and it's recently for supervisor chiu's for the districts ordinance. so just some background this is introduced before the holidays and then the commissions did ask

for a presentation to i don't believe we didn't agendize this as an action so this is a point of information >> i'm from the supervisor david choosing office. it was introduced for an alcohol district. over the years the supervisors office and other city departments have been working with a diverse group. the process has been from the bottom up from the neighborhood implemented with the assistance in city government. as you know several initiatives have been in broadway for the top of broadway this past summer. we've seen the implementation

for the portfolios that were provided in concert with the attorney's office and the best portfolios you've heard about tonight. those various efforts have been flatten with the city. this legislation before you tonight is the larger packet of solutions and it was development in close conversation with the stakeholders on broadway. many of whom are here to speak in support of it and/or who have submitted letters to the commission. there's no question there's a larger number of businesses that have alcohol. there's 17 liquor licenses or 8

and a half per block. there's two liquor stores on each block. the broadway track has more type 48 licenses. total licenses in the broadway include consensus track greatly exceed the limits. the existence of so many liquor establishment 2r0ib9 to the peace health and safety problems in the area. it's resulted in fight and gun violence my leadership and a public drunkenness and damaging structures. further, the large number of bars and clubs discourages more businesses in the area. it's been expressed the strong desire to attack for o more

restaurants and cafes and other establishment. so the proposal before you today would create a new wrautd restrictive district on particles on montgomery discredit or the 4 hundred and 5 hundred blocks of broadway. in the r u d forbid the next 4 years the alcohol sales with about prohibited. beer and wine bars would not be reciprocated. new liquor store and alcohol would not be allot for the next two years were a liquor establishment that's located in the r u d could transfer it's licenses inside or outside of the r u d but no licenses from outside would be allot to

transfer in. for those who transfer inside a permit would be required. it would be automatically expired unless the board of supervisors chooses to extend. i should note in april 2013 less than a years ago the board of supervisors passed a resolution that was the result of a community request in that situation and with the lower polk i believe horde the legislation but nicole the more thank you. wore informs 5 years and not two. the proposal as i mention before is supported by a larger number of community members and groups and many are here to speak. so i look forward to hearing our

thoughts and i hope you'll find this proposal worthy of your support. commissioner joseph has a question >> as you know this is the entertainment commission and each one of us up here represents a different constituency. i.e., represent the industry and i'm very concerned about this legislation. i think it's a slippery slope i think supervisor chiu had a moratorium. it says under existing law the restrictions are existing to preserve the character of different neighborhoods isn't the characters of broadway isn't that one of the draws that brings people into san francisco to inhibit the growth of that to