we take full responsibility for it. the structural design perhaps commissioners you're not aware of this the design was reviewed by the structural advisory committee. this is a group of experts. we spent hundreds of man-hours coming up with a comprehensive set of structural drawings that included every detail in regards to the complexity of that project. dbi attended those meetings. the committee made out of a soils engineer a going lost and she or he engineer and architect. dbi did everything right.

all the proper steps were taken. just to put this into prospective the sack review lasted 7 weeks and it costs over $67,000. i'm delighted that the chair of the committee is here. we had the geolost and harvey was the the architect and steven wall street was the structural engineer. this was our group it would be labeled the best group. the set of drawings were approved. the work started approximately 8 weeks ago. this was a failure of implementation. like all accidents could this

action have been protested? unfortunately, the answer is yes. we were very fortunate that no one was injured. we were also very cautious about the system. in fact, we had a full review that included wrapping it with plywood including an anchor age system >> i'm sorry i have to because of the any public comment? we have 80 keep it to 3 minutes. thank you, sir

>> next speaker. >> morning commissioners, liking o'brien. i'm one the team that the previous speaker spoke about. the project sponsor apologizes again for what happened. for the trouble that it created and the stress it caused everybody. the reports i think you'll find will ultimately bear out what the previous speaker said it was an implementation problem not have codes or anything. the project sponsor buildings that and has been advised it would be a good course of action and respectfully asks the

commission to reassumes when everybody is satisfied with the investigations they have to do and respectfully asked if we can get to that point for obvious reasons. he had the worth night of his life when he heard about it and my life. it would be annoys to let everyone know that the people who were involved have been in the construction industry for many, many, many years. the company involved with the showing plan has been in business for 75 years with an unblemished record. gentlemen that was a cat tropic accident but it was an accident. and they do happen that doesn't

make it acceptable or okay. which is why we make the statement we're responsible. the project sponsor is trying to put the situation right. whatever corrections as far as processes and stuff we'll do whatever we have to do. that was the message i wanted to convey to you this morning >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> good afternoon commissioners i'm patrick i'm a structural engineer represented brenda. her home is directly touching her property. i was there that night 15 minutes after it happened.

i want to thank the directors for being available for this discuss specifically for my clients concerns. we're doing shoring on my clients property. the she or he hadn't started but the excavation has. i'm co- recommending on the jerry side and i want to accept and acknowledge his apology. but we need to understand fundamental although this is a landslide site and excavation has started and stopped we're about to go into the winter and it's going to rain sometime and i want to encourage and i've had discussions with him to get the fountains in now.

let's not let this site for the entire winter. they've carved out the hill we need to get the foundations into this building but we need to get the fountains in to protect my clients property to address the remaining wall on top of the hill. i've had discussions with some better implementation of this project. i believe the building department is capable of working that out but get even though fountains in now much >> thank you. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> good morning. i'm frank. i'm a geotech engineer i was

with the with the building inspectors. the design process that was implemented was very thorough and complete and compasses a complete review. we required that the owner retain technical consultants and geefts as well as the structural jerry. the plan was checked on two cargos. my objections are that while the design was thorough and complete the implementation of the design failed. it didn't meet the intent of the design. my observations are that the requirement of the special

inspection when were part of the permit process could have been performed more thoroughly. i would encourage this commission to allow the foundation and g.e. logic shoring to continue as the gentleman has pointed out. we have an open cut. it's important that the rock bolts be installed around the south property line. it's important that the shoring get in. it's important that the home that's sitting there be better secured if it's to remain. furthermore, my recommendation to dbi is we mandate continuous

observation during this process. that the owners design team submit frequent and if that means daily reports daily those reports include photographs so the members of the dbi can, in fact, look at the photograph to see if there are any issues of what's being implemented but the important thing is we need to install a foundation and basically shore the site. and we need to do that in accordance with the permit that requires special inspection and we need to have the dbi have the confidence that it's a being done through the proper

reporting and memorializing with photographs. thank you >> thank you. is there any more any public comment? before i close? >> good morning, commissioners steve williams i've been representing the adjacent neighbors for a number of years they asked me to come down and what's been said and securing the site and the cut that's been made in the hillside it needs to be shored soaps. the neighborhood can hear pieces of the building crumbling and they want it handled.

they want the removal of the structure whatever that takes. this has been a demolition we tried to make this point in front of board of appeals and the planning commission. no one would listen it's a demolition and there's no way that the existing site is safer with the construction there and it's already been a first-degree time of imagination and the use of the planning code which was not intended. so the neighbors want it handled quickly and the securing the site but they also want to page which is now wrapped and strung from the hillside removed. it's ridiculous it's still

hanging there. that's the priority for the neighbors is to have the site secured, have it cleared and have the structure removed thank you very much >> thank you, mr. williams. is there any more any public comment? before i close. ma'am, secretary i believe i see none >> okay. >> is it true city attorney is it okay to talk about the aspect of the safety and give direction to the department our wishes is that a separate item to be discussed. george from the city attorney's office. i think the commissioner can express desires about how the site will be best protected but it's the directors jurisdiction to address the situation and how

fast >> commissioner walker wants to weigh in. >> i think as i said the securing the site and safety is what all of our priorities are. i want to applaud the director for handling this so far and i have full confidence you'll do the right thing on this property. it's your call. the commission is concerned about this as you've heard. i heard from a lot of folks i respect i worked on seismic issues in the department and i think that the neighbors and everyone that's heard about this

deserves to have confidence it won't get worse and it's secure so - >> commissioner lee. >> i just have two questions one is the structure stable right now? and if it is are we monitoring it everyday and lastly do we have is a geolift monitoring it. we're fortunate we haven't had rain >> before you answer the question anybody? i think the open cut made safe is the terminal we need to address here. i think the commission would

stress to the department that above all the other actions that are going to be taken we must reinforce the neighbors and the public this sight is secure and safe until it's safe with the cafeteria in making the site secure and safe doesn't translate into the interpretation that the project has somehow started that's not the case. we want to make sure with the neighbors feel safe and the project is safe one hundred percent >> and we don't want the problem public to feel we're disrupting any evidence. >> yeah. with a scoop he will with the sole goal to make this open cut safe so the rains if they come there wouldn't be any

concerns. and no, i know that deputy director sweeney i didn't did a lot of daily so i don't know who you want to talk to with that. your role is giving me the information so i'll let you make the call who to talk to >> members of the commission. ed sweeny deputy director planning services. we would like to start troirlgs to doing the weather proofing involving putting in the foundation and at that point we can get weigh in from the planning department how they want to proceed. it's a recognized slide zone we

have to cut we have to do something quickly the rains about come. the only time i've been up there i was seeing springs so there's water out there and we've only had 2 inches of rain in the last year >> so maybe this is an unfair question. how much of a work load is needed to get it to that open cut made safe >> there they're probably a month out. >> no to make it safe. if we're wish is to instruct the director to make it safe how much work >> 6 weeks. >> they will 3 issues.

first of all, number one for safety of the site number one is the section is on the ground. we had a complaint we sent an engineer to inspect it but they cut the ribbon but we can do a monitoring, you know, every two days or whatever to see how it is go out there and check for the movement. second issue regarding the site safety. we were about the rain we know about the problem we need to look at surface water. it's in the improved plan we

have our plan help me to review it with staff to get permit and another issue regarding the site you heard about from the next demeanor and the structural engineer of the job and also, you know, we've got the open and cut we need to install the foundation to make sure it's stable so we don't know when earthquake come tomorrow or today. those are my recommendations on my report but how fast we can do it all depended on, you know, all this work, you know, step by step. the foundation takes sometime to do it. sir if you

>> just on your experienced to get this open cut safe how quickly could it be done based on what you say. >> i agree with mr. sweeny now the structure is in the way. the structure is in the way of implementing the shoring of installing the foundation and maybe in the way of properly providing drainage across the site. i believe what has to happen not only do we need a plan to show the surface what it is but we had approved a surface drainage plan but how they prop to sequence securing the cut with the structure in the way. that has to be happen and be

reviewed by dbi and they may ask sack to go looked at it again. it has to happen quickly. it's going to rain and a seismically that structure fortunately it's a hard rock site but the reality it's sitting there and it's barely stable under static load we need to improve it with the potential of is an earthquake. i encourage this commission and i know if the physical investigations are completed. what hadn't been done in the writing of the reports. i i know that the engineers retained by city have been out there and their site plans are finished. i know that the dbi's studies

open the site have been completed it's a matter of preparing the reports so moving the work forward wouldn't interfere with preparing the reports. i encourage you as a member of the sack as the chairman of the sack to let's move on. let planning deal with the issue of structure but we should move on with the implementation of the stability of the cut and the foundation installation >> thank you commissioner walker. >> i think i intend to agree with that but i also want to as we move forward if that's what the director determines that we let the folks know who are doing the investigation to make sure

that they have what they need from site first. and in that it's seems like it needs to happen pretty immediately. i mean, i agree i think that it's tenuous at best and i think we would be lacking responsibility if we didn't support of the directors decisions on that >> commissioner melgar. >> i have some questions i drove over there and i'm not a structural engineer but first place the neighbor i would be freaked out. i heard you say you sent outing someone out there and don't believe the structure is moving. i heard you sigh there were 3

straight issues the foundation and the neighboring property and the structure itself. so i, you know, since is there was a permit for demolition denied i'm wondering what at what point do we move, you know, on a demolition is that was neat? i went over there and was looking at this thing territorial on this hill only one thing holding it and i'm wondering is that real? >> deputy sweeney i didn't. >> eventually they're waiting on a determination of planning do they need form 6. >> so mraep is on it.

>> yes. >> so all people that's getting into the report so i want to stop you. i get where you're going commissioners. i want to reinforce what's in front of us to recommend to the department to make the open cut safe for the community and the neighbors up there and obviously for us as a department to give instruction to go ahead and do that. with the stress caveat this is not work resuming there 0 this is only to make sure that the city is confident this will be safe going 0 into the winter arrest commissioners? >> let me ask a question. instead of just putting the foundation in as in the plan is

there any other way we can or the - any thing to stabilize that hillside >> there's the components of securing the cut on the north side of 125 which is the south side of 115 and that means to keep the rock stable. the geolots of have to get out there to look at the cut to see where the bolts should be placed. and, secondly, there's retaining walls we call it temporary the reality is those walls are part - their temporary and stand alone but they eventually become part of the structure. the work should be 34re789d.

the third is the actual foundation for the structure itself. i'm excited about that portion having to be installed provided it is not needed as part of the temporary shoring of the structure that we are trying to save. if they have to be installed to allow us to save the sticks that are out there that should be installed. the cut on the north side japt to 115 there's the walls on the other side there's a wedge of fill down on the southeast corner and there's the weather foundation needs to be installed to maintain the stability. and on top of make sure the

surface water is corrected >> it sounds the midsection kind of. >> whatever to hold the house. >> if the perimeter needs for the drainage needs to be in. >> it was the first one we hit upon when we reviewed the plan what - 3 months ago. as you pointed out there are springs, there's water coming out of the hillside >> so there's things we can do not only the foundation work. >> things. >> your amendment is to make it safe. >> yeah. . >> as soon as possible. >> maybe director you can take it from there obviously, we don't need more details and

you'll report back to us. >> they need the necessarily permit and payment. >> i'm coming out from the point of view in the interests of everybody, everybody is going to do the right thing and everybody will be on board for you to make the open cut safe. >> thank you. thank you >> i believe we have no more comment on this. with that, i want to thank the commissioners and we'll be getting back to everybody once the reports are in. thank you. again for your patience >> item 8 discussion regarding joint meeting with the planning commission. >> commissioner walker heard from her resources