awhile. that was what the chronic plan attempted to do from just focusing on the chronically homeless and look at the 6300 who are in our system, or more, we don't necessarily have that much of a targeted approach. we do -- barbara might talk about the acutity index we like to use at time. hsa got away from [speaker not understood]. i think it's worth a discussion sort of around prioritization around resource he. should a woman -- she has needs, we want to help everyone who has needs. someone who is here from ohio six months jump into really coveted affordable housing in the city maybe for someone who all their life got moved out in the bayview, and i think it's worth a discussion. >> supportive housing, again, we use supportive housing well. when i say we, i don't mean the

city alone. all our nonprofit providers, [speaker not understood]. they do a fantastic job, they do a good job providing quality housing, housing, and keeping folks housed. we wanted to get as many people as shelter as possible. people didn't need to get housing ready. they needed to [speaker not understood]. the vast majority for chronically homeless single adults. we have a number of 43 1 units in the pipeline that should come online over the next two years or two plus years. once they're online, we'll hit our goal over 3,000, 386 units according to the plan. and again, i talk about targeting, the vast majority of

units are dedicate today chronically single homeless single adults [speaker not understood]. >> can i ask you a question on that? in reading around the documents, funding is a big deal for us as a city for every issue, let alone this. several dollars seem to be targeted on what the definition of homelessness is and limited in a way because of that. so, our foil us on the chronically homeless, 2700 units, how much of that is our policy city to do that? >> actually we're just getting back into that. >> that's a great present. for the locally funded s-r-o housing first or direct access to housing through department of public health, it is a priority. hsa for two units, one would be chronically homeless.

that's how we got to that condition. >> [speaker not understood] we administer, almost 700 vouchers. you have to have a disabling condition in order to qualify. some of the money that flows through the mc kinney, federal mc kinney act, which is the largest part of federal money we get serves both. certainly the federal government recognizes permanent housing [speaker not understood], mc kinney scored higher. we had a grant increase $4 million the last five years or so. so, the focus is at the federal level. the funding flows from that and to your question drives some of our placement some of our developments. so, i've talked about units. let me talk about what's more important, which is the actual number of folks we've housed.

this number is astounding. since january 2004 we housed 9,64 1 homeless single adults, this doesn't include over 1100 people and family we've housed. we're focused on chronically sipping l adults. we show each month how many hour is [speaker not understood]. care not cash, we housed 245 individuals. >> i'm sorry to interrupt, but when it comes to these different sections, do you have any data about how long people are housed when they're housed? i think it's also really important aspect. >> i'm not sure if [speaker not understood] as well. >> you're out of the room. we talked about the surviving portfolio. how effective they are. the number one goal is to get them housed -- i guess that's two goals, get them housed and keep them housed.

our housing retention rate meaning folks who stay after a year, is 90% across our portfolio. so in that one year, they are being housed. there are low levels in sur supportive housing. we have -- so, there's 9600 folks we have, that number feeds into not just the 2600 units we created under the plan, but really more the what's close to 6,000 supportive housing units or subsidies in the city. we have about 4,000 under hsa, 2000 under department of public health. some positive, some negative, some folks move away, we don't know why they left. you're partnering to do [speaker not understood] to look at a more robust issue. supervisor, how long are folks staying?

is there information about who is staying, why they're staying? what is the appropriate supportive mix in housing now that we've moved into housing first? we're not getting as much turn over. if you turn more turn over, you can house somebody else. are we not targeting the [speaker not understood], we're hoping the budget analyst through the dataal analysis would help us, too. >> [speaker not understood]. >> right, right, how the housing authority could become part of that [speaker not understood]. first is the general fund of fundsed, housing portfolio. not through care not cash. [speaker not understood] dph program under 2,500 -- i'm running through this quickly, i know.

our local operating subsidy program which is the partnership with mayor's office of housing, dhp provides the fund [speaker not understood], 333 placements. so, people say how can you solve homelessness? i think we're really good at solving homelessness for the individual. i think there are systemic reasons why we haven't solved it in san francisco. we will have further dialogue on that ~. back to prevention and what we've accomplished -- >> [speaker not understood]. as a manifestation here in san francisco, i think it's important to say that, but to really make connection. >> i'm glad you said that supervisor. a reporter asked a couple who the a about. you've housed so many people and committed so many

resourcies yet there is a consistent homeless problem. what frustrates all of us i think the state to recognize this as a homeless issue as well. we get a grant $100 million [speaker not understood]. we get $30 million a year from the feds or homeless budget, in hsa alone is 122 million. what's frustrating is we have a poverty rate of 25%, still hasn't given us the resources to solve homelessness, to your point, it always has to be discussed within the context. the reality is we are [speaker not understood] to serving people on the street and we need to do our best within our resources to do that. so, i segued into funding.

so, increased funding. one additional half million dollars in supportive services. >> this is in hsa [speaker not understood]. you can see the units attached to that 370 units. and then our master lease program we've really -- and it's notable given the budget cuts we had to ensure the last number of year. we were preserved. we didn't cut [speaker not understood]. we have increased through business increases he, and there's been a couple privacy. . that's atrictionvable to some of the countries. i know this was lengthy, but it was a lengthy plan. homeless prevention, we were lucky to get a 89 thousand dollars influx of [speaker not understood] from the feds in

ara in three years. ~ $9 million home for the holidays was mentioned earlier between sales force and us. i amoebationved mcgriffin mc kinney, $4.3 million over five years primarily again because we are really good for applying for homeless supportive project. we get the bonus almost every year. >> can i ask a question truly, though, we are an year to year basis on that, or is there some security we think will continue? >> good question. nobody from my staff is here. she could answer that. [speaker not understood] generally applies for a project, we can apply for a

month et one a year. [speaker not understood]. another advancement -- introduce a discussion and [speaker not understood], that's shelter enhancements. so, since -- really it's more the last 2.3 just, our emergency sell term system. rear now [speaker not understood] that's about $13,800 a bed per year for emergency shelter. the plan specifically calls for as we develop an increase of supportive housing units to reduce the number of emergency shelter beds ferment not necessarily eliminate funding that's going through the population, but to rethink about them, what they call them mobile crisis centers, 24-hour

emergency crisis centers. what we're seeing now is many, many folk who have been in shelter familiar too long. the emergency shelter was designed for a rescue from the street. 12 beds or so. the reason we don't have a shelter for everyone, it's difficult to engage in job training and be successful. it's difficult to be treatment and be successful. all [speaker not understood] around the treatment and job training to shelter on the street and it's 3 or 4x in terms of effectiveness. so we i think we need to have a discussion for what that $17 million funding for shelter, what it currently does and how maybe it could be -- maybe the shelter service model should be looked at differently. maybe there should be a clean sell berg as mart of those

shelters that are more -- there's a lot of ideas and there's a lot of models around the country to me wear -- it's troubling. i know the other side as well. if we didn't have the 1200 beds, there might be 1200 people sleeping on the street and we don't want that either. it is to me a public policy conundrum in that we have so much money now going for emergency shelter that really is not truly emergency for very many folks who are there. >> question for you in that regard. in looking through the ten-year plan, number one was 3,000 units of permanent supportive housing. again, i think remarkable that in a ten-year time frame we've actually hit that. i think it's a good thing when government plans hit their goal. number 2 close hidv was a transition from shelters to, and i think it was a four to six year time frame.

>> it was. >> again, i appreciate the dilemma. you certainly don't want any more people on your street. reenvisioning, what are you going to use those dollars for permanent supportive housing. what is the obstacle and here we are 10 years later we're not even close. >> it's a numbers game. it's hard to justify closing a shelter when you know you have 3,000 people on the street. but there's been a lot of -- dph is really kudos to barbara and her team, created about -- whether it's the sobering center, medical respites, sort of these short-term models get folks admires they might be not suitable for different alternatives. : we have the facilities. should we provide them in a way

with short term [speaker not understood] needed? these are all rhetorical questions here. honestly, we did close shelters over time. nothing was a policy. it was theerithv of losing the facility. and, so, we do have fewer beds now than we did in 2000, 3, 4. i just think again, it's really justify closing we know we have folks on the street. >> the homeless count, how many folks are on the street? >> homeless county identified 264 folk. the same we had in 2011. 6400 -- the definition of homelessness, they're in cars, in treatment, transitional housing, jails, hospitals. 3,400 folks counted were indeed on the street in shelter.

another piece of data that i think speaks to our success at addressing the homeless chronic problem, the 1977 folk in 2013 met that definition of chronically homeless. in 2009 over 4,000 people met that definition of chronically homeless. so, that's a 50% reduction in the number of chronically homeless who we counted. in 2009 almost two-thirds, 62% of the folk we chronicled were chronically homeless. [speaker not understood]. that's positive progress. that means that folks who are really sick and who really are in need of array of services and housing are getting them in more prevalence than they did in 2009. >> supervisor mar? >> i know we still have a bunch of other presenters, but i

wanted to ask if -- the numbers are helpful. the demographic of the homeless po laytion. i know that from barbara's presentation. dph presentation, one shocking information was one-third of the population is african-american. i wonder if that's consistent with the demographics you see as well. you know, the demographics that we collect are from a public benefit program. when you look at the single adults receiving public benefits, that's about what it is. >> it's between 30, 40% actually? >> and then with the huge push out of the american population over the decade now down to about 6% of the population. is so r it's 33% homeless are african americans and yet it's roughly 6% of the population.

are there key cultural study,. we just went through the bayview homeless shelter issue. i'm just wondering what are the culturally relevant and competent strategies that you use in hsa. >> so, it's a to youedctionving to me that it's 24% and we stuv don't have a full service service in the bayview. [speaker not understood]. we have a drop-in center there, in just as recently as 2000, 2001 was simply just food. now it's services. you know, we -- a lot of folks come to the central city who are homeless, maybe from the southeast part of the city, [speaker not understood], that's where the services are. we really need to do a better job of getting services that are more culturally competent. linguistickly competent to the folks who need them so they're not traversing across the city

accessing services because there aren't any in their neighborhood. i think we're getting better. [speaker not understood] will testify, we have right now just providence church which is in the southeast part of the city. >> but i know we're fortunate with a lot of grassroots and community based in the neighborhood. can i share one thing that helped me as a policy maker on food and access, taking the snap challenge and putting myself in the soft shoes. i definitely understood issues of homelessness or of hunger and food clearly. i know there is a group called faithful street group ministries and others who try to take policy makers into the streets with more empathy, the situation of the homeless population? i'm considering how i can i

understand it -- you're a staffer, you do that. >> i work with clients almost every day. who interacts with clients in special shelter directors, meet with them regularly, they have a very good understanding and empathy of what is a.m. ~ what's going on on the streets. and really, it's -- solving this issue is bigger than the level of empathy, which is there. it calls for a lot more than that, which is funding and systematic changes in some areas to better serve folks who are on the street. >> i think what i saw at least within the food access open groups, project had almost a leadership team taking a snap challenge and have changed the culture i think of how they looked at the issue. for me personally that helped a lot. i'm trying to look into what

other ways we can be policy makers to be the issues. working with clients and community members is one thing. but for a short time opens their eyes. i'll leave it at that. >> i think when we're dealing with this issue, which can be a politically charged issue like homelessness, we really need to strip thats away and try to be as empirical as we can, look at the date a. when i talk about the shelter, thinking through what they might look like, we don't have a good sense of who is in our shelter system. we have a shelter reservation system now we've been able to convert to a database as well. with you don't have a lot of information on exit transitional housing. we haven't in last years drawn on best practice research in the area. 5, 6 years ago we were traveling all over the country looking at picking pieces from

everywhere. let's not reinvent the wheel. [speaker not understood], that's where i believe change is driven from, from data, promising and evidence-based practices. not to miss the importance of how difficult it is to live on the street every day. hopefully everyone in this room understands that. sound public policy divorced from turf and idealism, ideologies and preconceived notions that are brought to the table. which i'm certainly -- everyone brings those biases in. to really use data to strip that away is really important. >> okay. anything else? i know you've gone through the last slide. >> i have, i've talked a lot. yeah, i've mentioned. i'm just running through my

list on thing we can talk about. i talked about long-territoriv stayer, the a queuity index, supportive housing, ayev touched on everything you want to date on. >> just from a data perspective, you mentioned shelter beds are >> wrap, yeah. the permanent supportive housing. i don't have the city-wide number. i have the hsa budget here. that's not the right number. here it is. >> so, you're going to do the math, supervisor. 15 million for care not cash.

another 19 million for master lease on loss, and mc kinney in there. in general fund let's call it 35 million in general money for housing and shelter plus care. in hsa's budget for permanent supportive housing. >> and how many units? >> about 1300 in cap and about another 2200 and, so, i'm doing back of the envelope stuff. i can get you an actual per unit cost. it's about 3500 general fund funded for operational services. >> obviously devil is in the details here. i think as we think about things, i a grief bee with you,

looking at those cost arms [speaker not understood]. >> i've done it, i just don't have it with me. >> one question. you talked about, fully agreed with this. if we're doing outreach, the ability to offer something at that point in time. do we have within -- i know you said we have some allocation of shelter beds for either the hot team or other -- >> so, my staff, joyce crumb tells me we have about 30 set aside beds for the hot team in the shelter. >> i guess we'll talk about the adequacy of that or not or pros and cons of that. colleagues, any further questions for mr. rohr? thank you so much for your data. much appreciated. at this point i'd like to call -- we have people here from applied research who did the hsa count and were involved in that.

are they still -- and peter [speaker not understood], samantha, a colleague of yours. thank you for coming today and thank you for doing what you do for us. we're just letting you be an opportunity to speak. i think when people see, they walk to talk about how it was collected and what have you, talk to the people who did the collection themselves and also i think my understanding is what you've done as well look at other jurisdictions also. just want to give you an opportunity to speak, maybe talk about what you've dub, if there are relevant insights in terms of what other places are doing that would be helpful as well. >> sure. well, first off, thank you for the opportunity to talk about the 2013 point time [speaker not understood]. there's a little background, applied survey research has been in business since 1980 and we've been doing point in time counts since 1999.

and currently we've done probably close to 50 point time counts throughout mostly california, but in some other communities as well. we've had the opportunity to work in large urban cities such as atlanta, las vegas, los angeles. we've worked in santa clara, and we've also worked in rural communities as well, mendocino, sonoma, and other spots. in 2013 we provided technical assistance and direct assistance and point in time counts in other communities in california as well as san francisco. those include sonoma, monterey, santa cruz, san luis obispo, and santa clara counties. so, we've got a pretty good field for the methodological

issues and doing the counts and we brought aboard in san francisco to help bring some best practice ideas in a technical assistance fashion. we think that it's important, as was mentioned by both trent and bevan, to be data driven and having good consistent and quality data is really important to be able to see the trends and see the impacts of various intervention strategies. so, as we evaluated the san francisco strategies, there's a lot of good things, good best practices that are in place. one of which is 100% canvassing of the entire city. in the early stages of your pet counts, there was more of a sample or hot spot strategy and that's been replaced by 100% canvassing which is real

positive. there's been increased collaboration with national, state, and county agencies to participate in the count and represent and do targeted outreach to many of the specialty groups and subpopulations within the [speaker not understood] community. there's been a greater alliance on hmis data in the count rather than calling up shelters as was done in the early days when hmis compliance was not to the level it is today. >> can you clarify hmia? >> that's the homeless management information system, which is the electronic database which hub has basically mandated the communities that use hud funding use as a case

management tool. and are integrated into national reporting requirements for the fund -- the annual nofa funding applications that fund your federal programs here. one of the other enhancements we've done in particular in san francisco is to expand a face to face survey of homeless persons throughout the city in both sheltered and street environment. so, we've done our best to do administer a randomized sample of surveys and in this particular 2013 count, we administered roughly a thousand surveys to get qualitative information that gives some of the insights into the residency, to