relationship and i let him know exactly what we intend to do. aside from that, there is not really like a development organization in my specific area. so, captain tom referred me to the fisherman's wharf community business district as well as the china town, and it is a ccdc, and i believe that the china town development center and i did reach out to the directors of both of those. one member who sits on the board of the ccdc her name is fay darwami and she is a strong supporter of this and thinks that it is a great asset to the community and also lives in the neighborhood and has boys who go to school in the neighborhood. so she also heads another neighborhood organization called street utopia which is highly involved with

representing neighbors, and organizing various neighborhood interests. so, she provided me with her contact information too and she could be reached here. all of this, i have got a copy here that i could happy to hand you guys. and i have got several more names on here and i don't want to bore you guys but the jist of it is that i have tried to reach out as best as possible and i have made my best effort to notify the neighborhood and i have heard nothing but support of what i am trying to do here, that is it. >> great, thank you so much. we have some questions, and you can stand up there and commissioner joseph. >> hi, so let me understand what you are doing and you are going to have computer speakers and bookshelf speaker. >> correct, that is correct. >> and you have an open mic so you can have a microphone and it is going to come out of the bookshelf speakers and the computer speakers? >> exactly. there is a computer which

controls like the microphone instrument balance. so vocalist and guitar that will be the computer speakers set up i guess and we have a stereo system for the cafe with about four or five bookshelfs. >> and they are more for the performer than for the public. >> i was going to say that is not going fly with the computer speakers. >> and so your mc is going to do what? >> he will have a sign-up sheet and he will just sort of start everything off by introducing, what it is about. and he will also plays the guitar. he kind of sets the tone. and sings a little bit and then interacts with the crowd and reads off the sign up sheet. >> and so the open mic is for music or anything? >> right. primarily i have seen him in action before and it is music and poetry and like the spoken

word, which i suppose is poetry. yeah. >> okay. commissioner lee? >> so, the brain wash you are similar to that, is that what you are trying to do? >> more or less and we have the comedy as well. and i would be open to it. >> and your place is about the same size as it. >> it is smaller and it is 1400 square feet. >> it is actually about the same size as the cafe area. >> all right. commissioner hyde. hi. so first of all, thank you for being so thorough with your community out reach, that is amazing. and so what i wanted to ask you since you were so thorough, if there were any positive feedback that you could say from doing that stuff? >> yeah, yes, there was very positive feedback and that somebody to bring to the attention, and bringing it to my attention, what would i do if it got too popular, and what would i do if i have a line of people out of the door and that is something that i had not

thought of, until he mentioned it. and i think that i have come up with a good solution and that would be to work with the mc to have a sign out that is further out in advance and maybe a couple of days and we just limit the attendance to the people who sign up and that way we don't violate the fire code and we don't disturb the people in the neighborhood by having a bunch of people looking through the windows. aside from that, nothing really came up that i don't feel that we have already covered. >> great, thank you very much. >> you are welcome. >> i have one quick question. >> yes. >> so obviously hiring the mc and putting in the microphone is going to cost a little bit of money. >> not entirely. >> okay. >> do you see it in some way increasing your business? >> i would hope so. but, it is not necessarily the point of doing this.

do i see it increasing the business? yes, i do. but i don't really know, because it is kind of hard to say because we do happy hours and we try to do other fun things any way. so i think that it is going to maintain the business and just add some diversity if anything and which would be huge for me. >> and it is good to have diversity in your business for sure and i was curious if you had some kind of a performer that that might bring me an extra $200 a week or something. >> i don't really have a figure on that. >> yeah. >> i expect more people to come in and do it for fun, than to spend a ton of money. >> thank you. >> great. is there any other commissioner questions, and go ahead and have a seat and we will bring up the police to come and speak on your permit. >> thanks. >> hello, steve, and i met with the applicant as well as my captain and we have gone over the business plan and as far as

calls for service, a minimal amount, and it is actually a very well run business, and he has been there for 12 years, and he has a good track record. and we went over some of the different issues as far as the noise problems or even kind of, regarding the lines and stuff. and so, i liked the idea that he had regarding, you know, if it does get to this point where there are large crowds to do something on-line as far as reservations. and we also talked about, if there were lines having the staff to communicate that to the people in lines, and so that they are not getting angry, so that they are not getting inside and we also talked about maybe, if there were people that were not going to get in to refer them to the other businesses that have similar things in the area. and he seemed very receptive toward that and so the central station is recommending approval on the permit. >> thank you. >> i have a question. >> yeah. >> and are you limiting it to that one night?

>> we are not limiting it, he would like to, and he does not plan on, going, much fast just the tuesday, and however, with the limited live, it really, it reduces our exposure, we are not talking about a nightclub that is going to be operating at 2:00 in the morning and the most that they will be able to go for is ten and so it is a great problem and just because it gives the businesses an opportunity to provide something, a little bit of extra, and it does not expose law enforcement to the public safety concerns or if it does, it is kind of slowly giving them more and more. so, it was or was not too hard avenue decision for us at central. >> great. thanks. >> thank you. >> so is there any public comment on 901 columbus? >> seeing none, i will close the public comment. the commissioners now the item is now with the commission and i don't know if there are any

other comments or i am happy to entertain a motion. >> i would like to move to approve, but i do have a question for staff, limited live goes until? >> ten p.m. >> it has not moved to eleven? >> no. if the business is able to conduct their business in a secure and safe fashion, in a year we can apply to have extend to eleven, but that is the maximum they could ever go. >> i just wanted... i was confused by that. so they have to have the permit for a year. >> yeah, no matter what. >> and then we send it to the police station for their approval. >> great. >> i move to approve >> i second. >> there say motion and second. >> okay. so, commissioner campagnoli? >> aye. >> commissioner lee? >> yes. >> commissioner joseph. >> aye. >> commissioner hyde. >> aye. >> commissioner akers. >> aye. >> commissioner per hes? >> aye. >> and commissioner tan. >> so moved. >> that motion pass and we will move on to our next permit applicant which is drake, do you want to take that?

>> i need to recuse myself on this, they are kind of close together, so i think that it is better. >> see you later. and hopefully the record shows that commissioner akers and commissioner perez are now present with us. and so go ahead and take it away. >> this is doing business as drake at 508, 4th street and as you know it is a lounge and restaurant located south of market but this area is zoned for service, light and industrial and sli, zoning prohibits entertainment, but there is that little section in the planning code that does allow for 12 events a year under the rent party exception and so the applicant is here to get a poe and a place of entertainment permit, the southern station has provided a list of conditions included in the binder. and park is here to talk. >> and excuse me. president tan, commissioners, mark grame here representing,

kingston wo and the drake and he is present today with us and with his manager. and now, this is, i think that i have put some pictures and it was a beautiful space it was designed by a well known architect and i believe that it was the tenth anniversary party. and it is basically a gas show, a lounge and it is located next to the utah hotel on 4th street. planning code as you know, about i think that it was 1989 and they down zoned almost all of the south of market. and therefore, entertainment is not permitted in this district. however, under section 205.3 of the planning code there is an exception that allows one entertainment event per month, 12 times a year. and basically, other than halloween, we gave the planning commission a bunch of dates but other than halloween, and new

year's eve, we are going to use this for corporate events. and in the last, few months, we have had nike twice and we have had not facebook, but, sales force. and a bunch of other local south of market tech companies. who seemed to like the space. and in terms of out reach you should have a copy of the alliance for a better district six agenda from the other day. we did make a presentation on the 31st, before a joint meeting of the better district six and the tenant association's coalition. and we have also presented to henry carnila in several board members of the south of market association on this particular project. the place has been opened for approximately one year and there have been no complaints from the neighbors and the police that we know of. and it is a well run, a well

run club and it is nice and it is non-problematic and we would request a tentative grant. >> great, thank you. >> commissioners, you have any other questions? >> commissioner hyde? >> i am sorry, what coalition? >> it is called a tenant association's coalition. >> okay. >> could i just ask a planning question? so, this venue is right next to the grand, which is obviously a nightclub, is this there is a jerry man dered or other different? >> what? >> that is a good word for it. >> it is the transfer, open in 1979 and so that is basically grandfathered and this is a planning. >> so was utah. >> yeah, it was, and the hotel utah also and it was all down zoned about 9 or 10 years after this opened and so that is why, as long as they don't close for more than a year and a half, the entertainment is or will be permitted and you can continue it. >> yeah. >> got it.

>> could i ask you a question about that as well? with the new western soma plan, there is entertainment permitted on, or from harrison south. and this is from harrison south, but it stops at or before 4th street? >> i believe that it stopped at 5th street, commissioner? >> is that what it is? >> what, just to throw another monkey wrench into it and i think that i put this in my application and we will request that what the city is doing right now and i have been to several community meetings on this with the planning department but they are going to take that fourth street corridor and turn it all into an entertainment zone all the way down fourth street and so from fifth. and i am not sure how far, maybe a third and we are looking at entertainment and high-rises which seems a strange mix. >> will that come, as far as

this. >> and we will figure that this is, if it takes as long as the western soma and the eastern soma plans and six years from now, we will be done but things are moving quick. and they have been on that project. for about 18 months i believe so it is happening >> correct me if i am wrong. >> they went out to business because they could not do entertainment. >> pretty much. >> correct. >> it is a beautiful venue. >> thanks. >> thanks for hosting the ten year anniversary. >> i have seen them and i guess, are you in agreement with them? >> and we could take a few minutes and look and come back to that. >> i understand from the employment officer, chan that these are the standard

conditions and they look standard to me. >> we are fine. >> commissioner perez? >> hello. so, with the one event for the months and would you be the one who is going to be producing and doing things yourself, and you can come in and... >> sure, my name is kinston and i am one of the owners of drake. and the thought of getting the permit is for the number of corporate events throughout the year. the past december we had two to four corporate events, and it was a good month for us and a few of them asked to have the events and it is for the holiday parties and i think that the main driver for getting this license will be the flexibility to offer the clients to get the opportunity to have entertainment. >> and what kind of event was.

nike and the sales force? >> it was the event and to have a lot of bloggers and they had the dancers. and the necklace and some shoes. and sold a lot of shoes and things like that. >> so you did not have live entertainment at these events. >> and what do you mean by live entertainment? >> and there was no dj. >> and yeah. >> any other comments or questions from commissioners? >> all right, i don't see any so thank you, please have a seat. officer chan if you want to come up and speak for the police and your conditions. >> good evening commissioners, representing calm tain chan in the southern station and i believe that you have a copy of

the conditions and go over with them. and at this time, southern station has no opposition to the permit. so... >> thank you. >> commissioner hyde do you have a question? >> i just wanted to ask about four and 9. they have a working phone number and that is already covered in the good neighbor policy number eleven and the permit will monitor the sound and also covered in good neighbor policy number eight. >> is that okay? >> yes. >> all right. >> >> commissioner akers? >> i remember, i am not sure, what business it was. there was a condition on another venue about requiring that all outside promoters must

have special event insurance, and part of the event, and didn't we say, was it to require or to dictate how the other people run the business and requiring that and that the event itself is. >> correct. >> and i think that came up with, and tim hikers and a place where they were asking for that and i said do you think that heckling would pay for that kind of insurance and then come to your event and he said no, and so we did strike it from that. however, if it is really corporate events, i mean, i guess that is something for consideration. >> the question... >> so, so, does the promoter legislation say, because i can't remember, that they have to have insurance? it does not. so insurance is a policy based in the venue. >> so, if you want to come into my venue, and do a gig, and somebody falls down and breaks their head or a piece of

equipment, you bring in and blows up and hurts somebody and then it is on me, but if i get you, or if i ask you for an insurance policy naming me as additional insured they sue you first. >> i understand. >> and then sue me. >> i do understand how the insurance works. my question is last time. >> and outside of the venue. >> and it was outside of our dictation. >> and it is obviously good business support. >> eleven right. >> if you don't have any questions or comments for officer chan. i don't see anything, please have a seat. thank you so much. >> let's open it up for public comment. >> is there any public comment on drake's application for 12 events a year? >> i don't see any. public comment is closed. let's go ahead and i know that there is further discussion

about this, if you want to strike any questions, or, but, please, couch that in the motion. >> and i would like to, move to approve this permit, or strike number 4, 9, and 11. >> second. >> sorry. >> second. >> all right, everyone see that and so the motion is to strike, the condition and to approve the permit, but to strike the police conditions, number 4, 9 and 11. >> yeah. >> is there a second? >> i will second that. >> there say second. is there any discussion? >> we are striking them because they are in the good neighbor policy. >> that is right. >> so it sounds like 4 and 9 are a good neighbor policy and 11 we can't mandate in terms of the special event insurance? >> but there is one thing, with 11, the very last sentence, says that sfpd shall be notified at least one week

prior to the event. however, in ten, it says, that they want two weeks notice, prior to the event. >> well hopefully... if you are going to strike. >> you want the two weeks. >> you are getting the two weeks. >> yeah, right? >> but they are getting notice. >> all right. so that is the motion, is there any need to clarify it further? if not, let's take it to a vote. >> on the motion to approve with the recommended conditions, striking four, 9 and 11. commissioner campagnoli? >> aye. >> commissioner joseph? >> aye. >> commissioner hyde? >> aye. >> commissioner akers? >> aye. >> commissioner perez. >> aye. >> president tan. >> aye. >> so moved. >> so that motion passes. and we are going to move on to the next permit applicant, which is our guest from the last meeting, la oficino.

they are located at 4234 mission. and they are still pursuing their place of entertainment permit. as you recall, mr. escoloero was here with his niece and at that time the commission had concerns about the neighborhood out reach and security and other issues, last saturday, commissioner hyde and i attended a meeting at angle side station and it was attended by a lot of the neighbors and an officer from the station and we had some merchants there as well. and we we took a look at all of the issues that are neighbors were complaining about, including the patron behavior and noise and we developed some solutions. recognizing that the applicant has proved to be a better operator than the previous owner, the neighbors still do have concerns that we are taking pretty seriously. the group came up with some solution to mitigate these concerns, including having the security walk the block every hour at night and make sure that there is no garbage or

anything, putting a stand witch board out front asking the patron to respect the neighborhood and having the security to ask them to smoke in front of the bar rather than in front of the street in front of the homes and then asking the security to also request quieter disbursal at the end of the evening and so those were some ideas that we came up with and also decided that we would convene in two months to see how everything is going. so, with that i am going to turn you over to blanc and also mr. escoloero. >> my name is blanc a and since the last meeting i have sat down with him and he has been updating his security system and rearranging his cameras, and he is in the process of hiring all the bar staff, and trained bartenders and waitresses, and also be required to take the led

program, i believe. the security group has the written description before it, he is posting a policy for over serving in spanish and english by the bar and they are going to have a logbook to stipulate you late the block and he is willing to meet with the neighbors more often as far as the good neighbor policy. to bring any issues or concerns to the table and i believe that the next meeting will be at the bar so that everyone can have a feel for those who have not been in the bar. he was doing the sandwich board outside and posting the or a few signs as far as the suspecting neighbors and they do leave the premises to leave in an early fashion. the people that smoke 15 feet

away on the curb, far away from the bar and not by the building, next to it. as far as music, friday and saturdays from nine to 12, i believe. >> commissioner joseph? and then commissioner perez and hyde. >> i don't know if you were there two saturday nights ago but i was, along with inspector sean burke. so this is what i saw. i saw that it was very clean outside. very, very clean. and i could slightly hear some music when i got close to the door it was not offensive, it was not anything that, you know, what concerned me was that the door was locked. and it was locked with people inside during business hours, at first i thought it was closed and then i heard the

music and so we knocked and sure enough, they opened it. and of course, nobody spoke english, except for the security guard who said that he did not speak english, actually did speak english. and when i asked him why did he keep the door locked he said to stop certain people from coming in. so please, be clear that while people are present in the bar, you cannot lock the door, any door, all doors must be opened for fire exit. and so, that was the only thing that concerned me, and he did comply, with using the juke box and he did comply, i was impressed by your security guard he was full-blown, trained, badge, stun gun, the whole nine yards, he was armed to the teeth, i had to look at his stun gun twice before i realized it was a stun gun and not a gun. and then i asked him for his

guard card which he had. and then i asked him for his credentials for his stun gun and he also had that. and he was fully licensed and trained. and so my question is, why does he need that level of security? i mean, this guy was, you know, looked like sfpd, but i mean, why? >> was he afraid of the neighbors? >> i am just curious. >> no, he wants someone to be there and you know, to be secured at all times for the people to feel safe and to actually come in there if anything was to happen before the police arrived. he is prepared to... >> and so, with that kind of a security guard, i find it hard

to believe that is not doing his job he was really serious. and so, so correct me if i am wrong and so didn't we have the neighbors say that the security guard was not enforcing stuff outside? >> and if i may, i think that a lot of the issues were also like from the previous owner, and that a lot of the security guard issues were definitely with the person who said that the noise was their tv, do you remember when they came in? >> i do. >> and so i think that is where the problems were. >> and okay, so, in my humble opinion, i think that the security guards is going to do his job. and that is how i felt. but i did and i would like very much for you to do a little assessment of the door and to find out where that little bit of sound is leaking out of, if you could, that would be, that would be something that i would like. if you could do that.

>> but i will tell you guys, that the place was, the street was clean, the garbage cans were covered, and everything was nice, and whatever, and maybe it was that way because there was no band playing. but, it seemed to be very taken care of. there was a sign that said, be quiet and respect your neighbors, the whole nine yards. >> what time was that? >> what time was that. >> midnight. or 1:00 >> something like that. and we didn't start until ten, and so that was, our fifth or sixth stop during the night? it was late. >> and i had commissioner perez next and then the commissioner akers. >> hello. and i was really happy to hear from your presentation that you said that you will meet with the neighbors more often to bring the issues to the table and so what is your plan, or strategy inviting the neighbors to reach out to the folks in your neighborhood?

>> thank you. >> we pretty much got the contact numbers when we had the meeting on saturday and the e-mails and i am actually helping them out to get everybody together for the next meeting just to see if anything changed from this meeting that we had and or if they have any concerns about the music or, just anything over all, that is bothering them, because i do know that they love the neighborhood. and so, we just want to stay neutral. >> when is that next meeting? >> we have it for the two months from now. >> two months. >> yeah. >> do you have any other questions that commissioner lee? >> so, i think that the whole thing if not granting the last time that he was here, helped a lot to educate how important it is to communicate. and i guess that he showed up and cleaned up, the place and i mean, that is the whole spirit of you know, we didn't have to grant it, you know, and put al