of a second meeting ramps the original proposal of 2 hundred 12 or 2013 only had a one story edition but they added a one level. i can see the cross section of the existing center of the proposal of about a year ago and then at the current proposal now which is a taller building and this slide from the 2013 presentation this is how massive it is ray's 82 feet above the garners. this will round the amenity of the children's playground. as you saw in the mraurgdz the openness disappears. they can add the center meeting rooms on top of their plan on

howard street and we'll oppose and hopefully, you'll strongly oppose the structure and have the original design approved. thank you >> good afternoon, commissioners. thank you. i'm alice light community planning manager of the todd could group. i want to use some graphics to support john's comments. so i'll start with the loss of useable open garden space in the included in your packet. on the right you can see in red the loss of what is current - can you see - sorry. our screens are - is the paper

all the way on that paper the screens are flickering a lot. sorry i guess we'll look up here. sorry. sorry just one second. better? oh, okay. i think we have the slow down here >> there's a hardcopy in the packet. >> so on the right is the

existing garden and the red is the loss of this open space with the proposed expansion. the large escort loss is the tree of la it's a annoys quote space. there's also the sundial garden and the children's learning garden those are all removed from the expansion plan to allow for the foyer exit of the expansion building. the additional space that's locht is the thousand i won't tell adjacent to the children's carrousel. currently the caregivers and parents use those for the tables while their children are playing. there's a lot of discussion will the circulation that connects

from the street level to the carrousel area we we want to emphasize that this is not an acceptable loss of the gardens open space. an additional - so there are a few places where we do so new open space. one of those is 25 hundred square feet that is part of the current foyer exit for the ball room. it's something we support but the loss of 24 house square feet seen in the orange which is adjacent to howard street at the street level can't be seen as a replacement of children's comparison because it's at the street level it's clearly a moscone convention use not a use of the children's play area.

quickly i'd like to show the need for alternatives it this plan. this is the current view you just saw in the prior presentation. this is a view that shows was it would looming look like if there were just a ballroom in the south area where the meeting rooms on the corner which city still copes it open and allows for a view of the skyline compared to the ball rooms above this closed the space much more. and also this current plan creates showed on the playground in the late afternoon. thank you. >> sonya and others

(calling names). >> good afternoon, commissioners i'm sonya. i'm community advocate with todd could. and i just want to speak very briefly about the public outreach from the project sponsor. it's been very limited at best. and we are requesting that there's more outreach done by the project spornt. i'd like to show a difference in the public meetings this is primarily of last year. of okay of the proposed development and expansion.

and if you look at october it is extremely radly different in the expansion of the height it's two stories >> i'm sorry ma'am, are you trying to show us here. can you probable cause can you turn the projector on. sorry when you're ready >> we can see it now. >> the expansion proposal, of course, as things progressed over the months but in the from april of last year at the public meeting and this is from october. the red spacing and bulk creating shadows on the children's playground there

needs to be more public hearings and meeting and to have more comments. this stakeholders have stated what they need but we need more input that will effect the entire city. thank you very much. >> good afternoon, commissioners i'm virginia from the yerba buena alliance we're a 23-year-old organization working closely with all the stakeholders of yerba buena gardens. this is a draft statement it articulates most of the feelings of the stakeholder. i'll not read it in its

desirability. i want to point out some of the highlights. those points out include that the primary priority of garden stakeholders is that no single use dominates the yerba buena neighborhood and we support of the conventional space. underneath howard street that satisfies the blow ground expansion center. we support it as long as the openness of the garden is not impaired. there's a contention around the bridges. basically, we want to say we want the bridges to increase circulation and enhance the

public realm for circulation of the yerba buena garden and not serve as a primary use of the convention centers. we're concerned about visibility. we want to see visibility be enhanced phenomenon nonprofits. the current patrol officers proposal has a negative impact on operations. we believe it should be limited to the site of howard or above the existing ballroom on third street. assuming that the proposals are minimal. potential expands on the moscone garage and the fifth garage might be considered. to build more on top of this

roof will - the pedestrian amenities on howard street, the expansion project must include the children's garden for the impacts there in addition to the expansion project it immunity impair the security of the garden and the new children's facilities it must provide a safe area for the children would use those facilities. all construction must have uninterrupted construction and not be mitigated in a way to make loss of business or revenue. and we also would like to see is that we hope in the transfer of the gardens that the relationship between moscone and

the 3 city blocks is carefully looked at and would like to make sure there's no future encroachment on accident gardens or facilities >> (calling names). >> good afternoon jim lazarus with the san francisco chamber of commerce. i had the privilege of sitting on an advisory group. i'm sure you're aware of it's key to the economy it would hard to see that this is the growth we need and you see in san francisco now. a few of us were around during the earlier days of the construction of the moscone. this is a changing investment we went into moscone north and south and moscone west because

the market demands the space that is needed to meet the requirements of the modern visitor and those programs are coming to san francisco. their keying to our economy. we made a decision a long time ago that's been described we we meeting get a beautiful place not a rectangle letter box. the moscone north expansion could have been moved to another place they decided not to do. the chamber buildings the designs that are presented here today properly balance the needs

of the neighborhoods and visitors and the needs of business in the moscone and yerba buena garden area. so we urge you to work closely with the architect and the departments 0 involved to see a successful conclusion to move forward this project as quickly as possible. >> mr. washington. >> ladies and gentlemen, you know, i've been going through 0 those procures and moose of those speakers i remember them way back when but i came when this had to deal with african-american. this is ply my platform for african-american. i was the original narrate of

the city government channel i brought the idea to the city for years ago. i brought my cameras and reported the first board of supervisors. i was around 20 years ago when those projects were started off now you've got different names and faces >> i'm here to show a parallel on those agency basically, not you all but how you have a skrerpgs. we know this as negro removal. all of you different agencies and i wrote down a few things like requesting for more outreach we requested that for two-year years and never got it. you guys are under budget now and have money to spare and requesting workshops. in the a workshop but i

requested you to come to communities and you dpo wouldn't do that. i want to announce my group it's call the c r.c. community reform. this city i haven't given out the ideas because the city implements it itself. i can't use negativero >> to show you how things flip galloped and didn't work years ago. you all have those nice designs we had those two years ago but we didn't benefit. as i go on i want to implement because when i get to my last speaking i'm going to really come down on you all.

i'm a living witness that as an african-american black man we've come up here for many years i was almost in tears i see you all the same but i don't see any leaders all our leaders are dead or commodity. so i'm the only one. but inch got - i've got someone bigger than you and i. i'm come back >> (calling names). >> good afternoon, commissioners. michael with the terms creativity amount. as you've heard and continue to hear from the neighborhood partners the yerba buena gardens was designed and created with a in the course integrative folks

we recognize that the moscone convention center provides tremendous benefits to the city and to the yerba buena gardens particularly and want to increase score that the yerba buena gardens is a amenity that the convention center has a responsibility in hell e helping us preserve. the many designs that have been showed around raised questions about our collective ability that we're maintained. we support to keep things underground and i looked to see about the loss of business for adversities who won't feel comfortable to coming to a construction site or a floor

that might be shaking like the underground subway project. we ask i continue to destructive to make improvements improvements that make sure that the kids are secure. and make sure the intriblt e integrity of the gardens are safe so our families are able to push strolls across the bridge. and the blow ground construction should increase visibility and for the families amenities and we sure our emergency exits are not accommodated. i look forward to see the direct engagement from the center to be

sure to pass on the yerba buena values. and as a treasure to the kids who will one day inherit - thank you. >> jan. i'll spell the last time. q u a i r s i. the next speaker name i'm not concerned. steven l ute g e. >> good afternoon, commissioners. noim is steven luke i didn't i'm the business agency for the state local 16 here in san francisco. i'm here to speak in support of the moscone expansion. in the a wonderful opportunity

for san francisco to continue to attract the how level fire department's. without the moscone expansion san francisco risks losing high profile conventions to other companies in california and throughout the united states. the expansion of the moscone center will enhance local 16s ability to service this world-class designation with the best technicians in the industry. the moscone expansion is essential to maintain good wages and benefits for our local 16 and as well as many other businesses that support this industry. thank you very much. >> linda

(calling names). >> good afternoon, everyone. i'm starting to recognize all of you i'm the executive director of yerba buena gardens festival. our philosophy is that art should be unconsciously available for everybody. this expansion is great for yerba buena and great for san francisco. on behalf of audience and artists we serve i ask the design of the project respect the integrity of the garden and didn't stack away many green space nor make it less desirable for everyone of the intended uses. it's the design of the careful collaboration and a huge amount of public expense.

i feel comfortable that the moscone expansion can westbound reached at the same time that the upper public park is maintained. this is really a foyer exit and it's in the children exit and i urge everyone to go out to the children's garden and look at it what's been going to happen to the unique space. as it stands today it is a model for city planning pardon in usual role you can help preserve to where art and people thrive. thank you. and a good afternoon commissioners i'm bill. i'm the former senior project manager to the yerba buena center and was the senior landscape architect in the yerba buena gardens. i'm currently on the board of

the yerba buena events. this it's current form it's a breach of the public industries that has been happening over the years at which it was forged by the moscone himself that it would be a underground facility that wouldn't compromises the investment. the scale of the proposed building violates that commitment and overwhelms the children's garpdz it needs to be lowered by two meeting room floors and shifting that program to third street. the convention center exiting needs to be internal listed and breaching the garden instructor with a shadowy and insecure enhance. and the west bridge needs to

stay intact. the design especially establishes the design by angling away from the convention center the existing bridge keeps the building in the realm and i'd add windy presence of the many convention center expansion. this bridge serves no function for the convention center itself. it's a waste of public funds for eliminating a perfectly good facility and it actually lessons the fatality by abandoning the upper pathway system on the children's block on the

privilege that paths should be shared not separate or equal but shared in the skweegd out and the bridge leaves a widower shadow on street level violating the cities long held privilege that we shouldn't be having bridges in the first place. so the expansion clearly can go forward while respecting the integrity of the garden and the public commitment on which yerba buena was founded clearly on with your strong oversight and guidance. i was privilege to be here when it was constructed. don't let that happen on your watch that it could be taken apart >> (calling names)

and a hello commissioners. i'm from the south of market childcare we're at the site of the garden. the most concern we can you know the garner is also being used by children and the security with the expansion under the moscone center in particular with the sale it has a lot of people coming to that are not parents it's basically issues for the parents using the garden. thank you >> good afternoon thank you for the opportunity. i'm owen murphy i'm for the local 510 signs and display. we've been doing conventions in the city we started out in brooks hello hall. i want to know if you remember when the area of the convention

center was built. if you go back to north hauling hall when it was a parking lot prior to the expansion of the north hall of moscone. the yerba buena gardens is a wonderful and beautiful place. our workers enjoy it very much it's a great place to take a break i speak on behavior of 89 hundred journeymen who produce the city to keeping it a flagship. i'll ask you to support of the expansion of moscone because we are not the only city in the world expanding their convention center. this is a modest expansion. there's shows that love to come here especially in the pharmaceutical and medical

conventions. so san diego invites them to come down there and las vegas is also challenging us. i want to remind you what different of existed. almost half of our union are san francisco residents and pay taxed here and they fund a lot of the small business owners small businesses and restaurants surrounding that area. thank you >> thank you. we have no i have no speaker cards. >> okay. thank you very much. i have a couple of comments but i want to - i know marlene anything you want to ask or is.

i appreciate all the any public comment? definitely this is, you know, there are some improvements and there are some things that have i think in the view of many of the any public comment? ers and fellow commissioners not improved for example, the bridge. the last time i saw this bridge was imposed and the faculties not and compared positively to the high line is an improvement. there's some things that could get better but one thing that will help you want to direct the agency staff to be involved particularly around the eir and the design. there is i mean workshops