i appreciate all the any public comment? definitely this is, you know, there are some improvements and there are some things that have i think in the view of many of the any public comment? ers and fellow commissioners not improved for example, the bridge. the last time i saw this bridge was imposed and the faculties not and compared positively to the high line is an improvement. there's some things that could get better but one thing that will help you want to direct the agency staff to be involved particularly around the eir and the design. there is i mean workshops are

great we we want to hear what people are thinking but that didn't mean much if it doesn't show up in the documents and if people aren't sitting around the table. i commend the community groups who have been able to step spot process and put their authenticity in but i'd like that to be more formal listed. i hope we with, do that and have foich workshops particularly when the eirs are cropping up on a more regular basis. i know there's a lot of specific items that i personally saw in the stop sign and also horde if the public but maybe those motive wait for when we have a little bit more participation around the table and then we

have updates we'll get involved >> i have a question maybe my recollection there was a concern a voice i think i was the one who said it was important to have stakeholder and community involvement and sdaeks exacts and that sound like it's happened to some extent but not to extent it's needed. i for one remember what it looked like. as i said it was a hole in the ground to me p i wasn't involved in the planning of that facility. i remember, you know, much of the discussion but i do recall the open space the children's

flaugd and yerba buena as being center and key to the conversations. i for one like open space. and i think it's important especially, when they are going to be surrounded by concrete were all right. sunday night by a lot of concrete and we are going to be surround by more in the future. so i'd like to hear what folks are thinking about in terms of mythical - mitigating in the open space. anyone. i think the concerns about the open space p are very valid >> hi, adam. we've had nourmz meeting from a statistics group and a broader assembly and on walk there is no

with stakeholders from the users of the garden to the managers of the garden and some of the adjacent small business owners and people in the neighborhood. there's a difference of opinion i think you've heard from the public today. there are whodunit want to break down the facilities so come back to our mid block crossings. there are those who want the protected nature of the children's gardens and there's only limited access and knowledge to get into it for security. working closely with our architects we can accomplish the management of that through the grade changes and hedging and incubating that march mentioned

from s o m that allows that through put and the throw point out as a pedestrian. in terms of of the square footage frankly it comes down to where you count it. the presentation from todd could is assuming useable green space that's not including the usable plan space and it's not including any of the - a number of the areas. the actual net public space increases. the net public green space i have not done the circulation it's similar. we have presented to the community garden choices.

we bring backlight learning garden and show the neglected corner of that garden and the sundial garner next to it and paving over part of the presidio without the circulation benefit our proposal will allow that mid block crossings to move the shadow out into the light of day and talking to those users they want to highlight and show this to those the community and have it be more visible and to create a n a n a new multi space so i as a parent can go and my older daughter can go down the slide and my younger date can play in

a different lot and i can see them both. we're working to accommodate that and your notice of presentation has been noticed on the eir but those are details for the appropriate type of security and the final location of the guarding gasped ambassador we moot last week and are going to have more meetings in the coming weeks. those are things to be yet discussed >> if i might add a couple of comments and i appreciate our sensitivity to having community input. i'd like to have 3 comments. first of all, john was rightie explain moscone was much smaller

and was only the south moscone and as soon as our green gardens were assigned moscone came for a proposal in expansion and we've tried to find a compromise and we have. all of us building the moscone is terrible important but equally the promises made to the communities of having yerba buena being a rest bit from the traffic was a commitment that was also made. the expansion has a program in the eir scoping hysteroscope that is especially where we were

involved over a years ago you are about to give most of the meeting have been to try a say can you accommodate that would you like this and that it's not changing the program one whit and the buildings you see that will excited will totally change that area and we think have it very detrimental technical open the gardens as we know them. it's a matter of choosing them as the gardens that we can are an educate to the community so work with moscone to find another plays to plan. there's other continuous and they have plans to expand again. be aware that this moscone is

not an essential las vegas can go to new mexico and nobody will care. we care about the gardens. we do value it and as a community have recently come together and they're talking about our individual codifies with the team and public health together this paper which reflects all of our heartfelt concerns. thank you >> so i want to echo that a little bit and back to my original comment i think that having agency and staff recommendation will assist that that.

we have a public assist where having a strategic community is great but not the same thing as coming to city hall and having officially sanctuaries method to approve or veto or give official advise on those projects. that's what i want to see and that will going a along ways to getting compromise if that's what we're doing on a lot of the issues. again, this is not an action item for today. we will be more activity involved in the negotiations so if there's no future questions or comments and a

>> yeah. i like the design but at the same time i don't want to lose the space for the children. >> i agree. >> next item is the item of any public comment on non-agenda items. oscar james. >> good afternoon again oscar james pr two things. first of all, i want to thank you guys for coming out to bayview hunters point it's been a a long time since i've been out here but the community is pleased you guys come out.

the other thing i want to talking about moscone center. a lot of people's both filipinos and mexican-american and blacks out of the most moscone center when they were first building it. a long time ago i worked at a the veterans administration where the people areing there. i don't know if they got certifies of preference this is something this agency should look into they should have gotten certifies and also no stipends from that. the other thing the first moscone center i had a trucking company that ran 3 hundred trucks and i had 13 people into

the trucking from the down payment from the trucking company i own but that was the first big project that was done we ran 3 hundred and 13 trucks. thank you >> mr. washington. >> listen i just want to reiterate i hope you ail don't get the notion i'll just pound on you all i'm trying to get you to realize i have no point out by to seek legal action to try to get y'all's attention. i've been coming up here as a

activist i'm rode now to regulate. you guys are brand new you guys are controlled by the state or jerry brown and you have our board over you the successor board has has been missing for meetings in city hall in their inception whether their case it is. but i'd like to notify them to your community since i won't come i want to come before our board to have a workshop on the western edition since you wouldn't come and let me testify. you guys will have to do that sooner or later. you talk about stakeholders and i want to give a shout out to ms. reynolds i pound on her, she

doesn't deserve. the point out of the matter i'm beyond her what is you guys motion in this ocean. if the ocean was in the situation you have you've got problems are michael johnson. by the way, i've been back and forth to the board of supervisors but the thing about it i want to say we need an update on fillmore center sporadic. right now. right away. you guys are in the correspondent procures & i called michael the other day and he hung up on me. i'm going to have to do something that is going to bring eyebrows to everybody i'm going to file an injunction.

the city as disrespected fillmore. it ain't no mystery why don't you say ace if you put a workshop together i'll come. anyway, i want to say that the impact on fillmore is no mystery. hopefully, i, come before you with more than 3 minutes >> thank you very much. are there any other speaker cards >> okay. next item please and the next item of business is the report of chair >> the next is the report of the madam director. >> commissioner you have in your informational memoranda in our packets there's a report from our yerba buena gardens a consultant as part of the

transmission of those sixth assets from the city whether the recommendation for the public ownership similar to pikes place we can scheduled further meetings on that topic if you want to discuss on a ongoing basis the yerba buena have been meeting to continue the dialog and conversation primarily through the city's administrators office but it's a convening through the arts commission who may have opinion the department of real estate and public works really the umbrella to con videotape we're continuing to participate and

the last meeting was last week on the potential ownership model and the next stage we're pending the department of finance review open is property management plan is role for the implementation mode how to take the data we've provided and take the research and really take it to an implementation mode one that the city can accept with our recommendations and the compounds recommendations. we'll continue to keep you updated and posted. the second piece of information we did receive feedback from the state department of finance recommended to a narrow portion of our housing project. as you recall the state denied the millions for 200 and 6th street and the hugo hotel on the fact there was no funding in

place. the city took that would be that on step we have a global inclusive recommendation and the judge pointed out the total debtor on our recognizing rocks is $2 million. the recent letter we received is to deny again, our final clefs for 200 and 6th street $2 million but the chair identified a determination of the several billions of that's identified on the rocks but they choose not 0 address that in their letter so we're continuing to work with them to try to better understand is this something we do building and they've held firm to the contract standard as they had in previous raps statutory & they

said they do excited and this is a specific obligation as certified by the state. we're not there what all the implementations mean by the way, they didn't opine with the rest of it. but it certainly has impacts on our program so we'll continue to keep you posted on that matter. that concludes my report >> thank you very much madam clerk. >> this is commissions questions. >> madam chair. >> thank you very much. i don't think does anyone have any other questions or matters. one question i have been 0 moscone item. yeah. i didn't ask this was the general timeline i know they've sent ata out a preparation of

the eir i forgot to ask >> well, yeah i guess i don't know. i guess this is a question as to what is the extent of our authority to impact the design and the implementation of the project in the manner that's been brought up you. two responses president fong in terms of the timeline i'm reviewing this to spring or april of 2014 that the moscone team will publish the eir and as was in the presentation moscone north the additionally agency

issued the revenue bonds to build it which is leased to the city but the agreements provide and they're paid for by moscone revenues. the sources of revenues is the moscone receipts. it's expected that the bonds on moscone north will be paid off but because of the initially financing there are may the record show payments that are did you for a few more years but the city will own the moscone north where the radiance are north even if howard street the city will own moscone north if the bonds are paid off. we don't know did timing when that will be or that nicole there's no permit it enter or

lease in that case the city - it's a city facility. so your entity on the captains of moscone north so what is not yet a city facility is the cafe spaces the property beyond the north. there will be various agreements that will be noted in order depending upon the construction timeline we're expecting the approvals that will be note for the commission whatever you own at the time in the winter of 2014. we're during this trial down the the scope of the drizzling it's

complicated we'll work with the team. their construction is scheduled to start quickly thereafter after asking you the approvals necessary from the commission and the completion is in the summer of 2018. so it's on fast track >> i don't have to answer it but i'd be interested if the board jurisdiction that we have to impact any of the concerns that have been raised by the members of the public. >> is it approved honk will it take to complete that. >> presidential 4 years for construction. i'm looking the mayor's office

staff to confirm >> hi, the construction schedule will be api for a dark period over the holiday period at the end of this calendar year to do the first phase of the work under howard street. one of our many challenges on the construction is trying to keating keep the center in continuous revenue generating. so this goes into the summer of 2018. we'll pay off the bonds in july. the antiquestion is the remaining lease payment that the director mentioned i believe is a two year roughly 2 and a half million dollars demolition we're looking for the authority to solve our goal.

it's to make everyone's life easier and have it be a city asset by july so prior to the beginning of construction but it's not yet revolved >> what's the total expenditure. >> we've issued $2 million in bonds through two revenue sources which the moscone dissected on hotel rooms and the public-private industry in the hotel industry and some expiating general payments to moscone. so the hotel assessment is about 2/3rd's of the assessment sources and the remaining third is through thank you funds >> definitely i have the same question that commissioner

rosales has. i don't have any double we'll get but what does that mean if we don't agree. i have that same question >> at my house can i delicate. >> you're either the lessor or the prosperity owner so it's your house today. can we determine that in the future >> (laughter). >> i guess that's kind of to be determined. >> hopefully on a more day to day. >> i move to adjourn. >> thanks see you later we're adjourning in a second. >> the next order of business closed session. and the next order of business

is adjournment. thank you very much we're adjourned at thehub. >> hi, i'm jean yes my name is jean and sometimes, people call me sir, girl. san francisco has served our sewer system and it's no square feet it's a matter of time. that's why we're planning major upgrades public health depends on it that. see how this important work is

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