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president tan, commissioners, mark grame here representing, kingston wo and the drake and he is present today with us and with his manager. and now, this is, i think that i have put some pictures and it was a beautiful space it was designed by a well known architect and i believe that it was the tenth anniversary party. and it is basically a gas show, a lounge and it is located next to the utah hotel on 4th street. planning code as you know, about i think that it was 1989 and they down zoned almost all of the south of market. and therefore, entertainment is not permitted in this district. however, under section 205.3 of the planning code there is an exception that allows one entertainment event per month, 12 times a year.
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and basically, other than halloween, we gave the planning commission a bunch of dates but other than halloween, and new year's eve, we are going to use this for corporate events. and in the last, few months, we have had nike twice and we have had not facebook, but, sales force. and a bunch of other local south of market tech companies. who seemed to like the space. and in terms of out reach you should have a copy of the alliance for a better district six agenda from the other day. we did make a presentation on the 31st, before a joint meeting of the better district six and the tenant association's coalition. and we have also presented to henry carnila in several board members of the south of market association on this particular project.
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the place has been opened for approximately one year and there have been no complaints from the neighbors and the police that we know of. and it is a well run, a well run club and it is nice and it is non-problematic and we would request a tentative grant. >> great, thank you. >> commissioners, you have any other questions? >> commissioner hyde? >> i am sorry, what coalition? >> it is called a tenant association's coalition. >> okay. >> could i just ask a planning question? so, this venue is right next to the grand, which is obviously a nightclub, is this there is a jerry man dered or other different? >> what? >> that is a good word for it. >> it is the transfer, open in 1979 and so that is basically grandfathered and this is a planning. >> so was utah. >> yeah, it was, and the hotel utah also and it was all down zoned about 9 or 10 years after this opened and so that is why,
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as long as they don't close for more than a year and a half, the entertainment is or will be permitted and you can continue it. >> yeah. >> got it. >> could i ask you a question about that as well? with the new western soma plan, there is entertainment permitted on, or from harrison south. and this is from harrison south, but it stops at or before 4th street? >> i believe that it stopped at 5th street, commissioner? >> is that what it is? >> what, just to throw another monkey wrench into it and i think that i put this in my application and we will request that what the city is doing right now and i have been to several community meetings on this with the planning department but they are going to take that fourth street corridor and turn it all into an entertainment zone all the way down fourth street and so from fifth. and i am not sure how far, maybe a third and we are looking at entertainment and high-rises which seems a
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strange mix. >> will that come, as far as this. >> and we will figure that this is, if it takes as long as the western soma and the eastern soma plans and six years from now, we will be done but things are moving quick. and they have been on that project. for about 18 months i believe so it is happening >> correct me if i am wrong. >> they went out to business because they could not do entertainment. >> pretty much. >> correct. >> it is a beautiful venue. >> thanks. >> thanks for hosting the ten year anniversary. >> i have seen them and i guess, are you in agreement with them? >> and we could take a few minutes and look and come back
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to that. >> i understand from the employment officer, chan that these are the standard conditions and they look standard to me. >> we are fine. >> commissioner perez? >> hello. so, with the one event for the months and would you be the one who is going to be producing and doing things yourself, and you can come in and... >> sure, my name is kinston and i am one of the owners of drake. and the thought of getting the permit is for the number of corporate events throughout the year. the past december we had two to four corporate events, and it was a good month for us and a few of them asked to have the events and it is for the holiday parties and i think that the main driver for
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getting this license will be the flexibility to offer the clients to get the opportunity to have entertainment. >> and what kind of event was. nike and the sales force? >> it was the event and to have a lot of bloggers and they had the dancers. and the necklace and some shoes. and sold a lot of shoes and things like that. >> so you did not have live entertainment at these events. >> and what do you mean by live entertainment? >> and there was no dj. >> and yeah. >> any other comments or questions from commissioners? >> all right, i don't see any so thank you, please have a seat. officer chan if you want to come up and speak for the police and your conditions.
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>> good evening commissioners, representing calm tain chan in the southern station and i believe that you have a copy of the conditions and go over with them. and at this time, southern station has no opposition to the permit. so... >> thank you. >> commissioner hyde do you have a question? >> i just wanted to ask about four and 9. they have a working phone number and that is already covered in the good neighbor policy number eleven and the permit will monitor the sound and also covered in good neighbor policy number eight. >> is that okay? >> yes. >> all right. >> >> commissioner akers? >> i remember, i am not sure, what business it was.
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there was a condition on another venue about requiring that all outside promoters must have special event insurance, and part of the event, and didn't we say, was it to require or to dictate how the other people run the business and requiring that and that the event itself is. >> correct. >> and i think that came up with, and tim hikers and a place where they were asking for that and i said do you think that heckling would pay for that kind of insurance and then come to your event and he said no, and so we did strike it from that. however, if it is really corporate events, i mean, i guess that is something for consideration. >> the question... >> so, so, does the promoter legislation say, because i can't remember, that they have to have insurance? it does not. so insurance is a policy based in the venue.
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>> so, if you want to come into my venue, and do a gig, and somebody falls down and breaks their head or a piece of equipment, you bring in and blows up and hurts somebody and then it is on me, but if i get you, or if i ask you for an insurance policy naming me as additional insured they sue you first. >> i understand. >> and then sue me. >> i do understand how the insurance works. my question is last time. >> and outside of the venue. >> and it was outside of our dictation. >> and it is obviously good business support. >> eleven right. >> if you don't have any questions or comments for officer chan. i don't see anything, please have a seat. thank you so much. >> let's open it up for public comment. >> is there any public comment on drake's application for 12 events a year?
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>> i don't see any. public comment is closed. let's go ahead and i know that there is further discussion about this, if you want to strike any questions, or, but, please, couch that in the motion. >> and i would like to, move to approve this permit, or strike number 4, 9, and 11. >> second. >> sorry. >> second. >> all right, everyone see that and so the motion is to strike, the condition and to approve the permit, but to strike the police conditions, number 4, 9 and 11. >> yeah. >> is there a second? >> i will second that. >> there say second. is there any discussion? >> we are striking them because they are in the good neighbor policy. >> that is right. >> so it sounds like 4 and 9 are a good neighbor policy and 11 we can't mandate in terms of the special event insurance? >> but there is one thing, with
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11, the very last sentence, says that sfpd shall be notified at least one week prior to the event. however, in ten, it says, that they want two weeks notice, prior to the event. >> well hopefully... if you are going to strike. >> you want the two weeks. >> you are getting the two weeks. >> yeah, right? >> but they are getting notice. >> all right. so that is the motion, is there any need to clarify it further? if not, let's take it to a vote. >> on the motion to approve with the recommended conditions, striking four, 9 and 11. commissioner campagnoli? >> aye. >> commissioner joseph? >> aye. >> commissioner hyde? >> aye. >> commissioner akers? >> aye. >> commissioner perez. >> aye. >> president tan. >> aye. >> so moved. >> so that motion passes. and we are going to move on to
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the next permit applicant, which is our guest from the last meeting, la oficino. they are located at 4234 mission. and they are still pursuing their place of entertainment permit. as you recall, mr. escoloero was here with his niece and at that time the commission had concerns about the neighborhood out reach and security and other issues, last saturday, commissioner hyde and i attended a meeting at angle side station and it was attended by a lot of the neighbors and an officer from the station and we had some merchants there as well. and we we took a look at all of the issues that are neighbors were complaining about, including the patron behavior and noise and we developed some solutions. recognizing that the applicant has proved to be a better operator than the previous owner, the neighbors still do have concerns that we are taking pretty seriously. the group came up with some
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solution to mitigate these concerns, including having the security walk the block every hour at night and make sure that there is no garbage or anything, putting a stand witch board out front asking the patron to respect the neighborhood and having the security to ask them to smoke in front of the bar rather than in front of the street in front of the homes and then asking the security to also request quieter disbursal at the end of the evening and so those were some ideas that we came up with and also decided that we would convene in two months to see how everything is going. so, with that i am going to turn you over to blanc and also mr. escoloero. >> my name is blanc a and since the last meeting i have sat down with him and he has been updating his security system and rearranging his cameras, and he is in the process of hiring all the bar staff, and
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trained bartenders and waitresses, and also be required to take the led program, i believe. the security group has the written description before it, he is posting a policy for over serving in spanish and english by the bar and they are going to have a logbook to stipulate you late the block and he is willing to meet with the neighbors more often as far as the good neighbor policy. to bring any issues or concerns to the table and i believe that the next meeting will be at the bar so that everyone can have a feel for those who have not been in the bar. he was doing the sandwich board outside and posting the or a few signs as far as the
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suspecting neighbors and they do leave the premises to leave in an early fashion. the people that smoke 15 feet away on the curb, far away from the bar and not by the building, next to it. as far as music, friday and saturdays from nine to 12, i believe. >> commissioner joseph? and then commissioner perez and hyde. >> i don't know if you were there two saturday nights ago but i was, along with inspector sean burke. so this is what i saw. i saw that it was very clean outside. very, very clean. and i could slightly hear some music when i got close to the door it was not offensive, it was not anything that, you know, what con
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