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and respect that but we prefer the 4 base scheme. i'm moving quickly how the existing building holds the corner and which is more typical to the urban environment in 9 district. i mentioned briefly about the structure it's a complicated structure the floor and roof propensity have a trust wall that supports all the structure. and then the side walls are purely there as sheer walls so there's a certain amount of support. there are two columns supporting the building and this is the exit staircase in the corner. this is just a plan here. it is including the sliding glass doors and this is the plan
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that he with showed the ar c and we've incorporated the chances the sliding glass demeanor and this arbitration. we've included the same arbitration on the north elevation where we added a symmetrical we felt there was a break up on the elevation as well. >> could you repeat those two slides. >> this is where we were before and then if i move forward we've move forward to the doors to the corners this platoon is the past doors are in the correspondence so to the est and west. and because we have the sliding door in the center. we reciprocate >> prayer by the chaplain. >> that on the north elevation and we've increased the width of the staircase so adding back some more staircase area
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actually on stockton street itself. so here is the section of the building again, we're taking the structure down into the building itself so it's quite complicated. a view inside it's great to be overlooking the square so you're looking on the second floor you'll have the training tables to have people up in that space and overlooking stockton street and when the doors are open it's like being on a terrace street i'm sorry union scombrar. this is a view along stockton street we see the foundation and is plaza itself and we see the elevation on stockton street we've included the window and returns into being a skylight
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over the building. and a view of the plaza space with trees and seating and a x press bar with the hyatt. we're going to use that x press bar and the other thing with the apple store it starts up where people get pursuits we'll have wifi in that space. i think what we really time is for people to use the space its become active again. that's an image of night. we've been borrowing light from the store and hotel. as rick mentioned this is where we started we have an 80 foot facade on stockton street working with staff we moved to
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where we have created a slot window we have a 50 to the wall so we have this pushed up the glazing on post street to create a more comfortable approach and entrance into the building but maintains this overhang on post street. talking about the materials. we talked about the stainless steel and it was total acceptable within the contacts. i think another thing we like about the material it has muted images and it's a beautiful material and very expensive material. we like it because it didn't reflect strongly but picks up
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those muted reflect shuns. we've talked about the foundation. it's moved approximately 10 feet it's 6 to the and 6 inches is the dialogal movement it's the center point of the plaza. we cough left it but it wouldn't be on center and in focus of the plaza. the focus today is how the fountain is today. i'll step back eave moved the fountain and it's behind the tree we're taking the reminding a little bit of arbitration from the trees. the actual fountain is slightly cross but still the focal point
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it's an important part of the design and integrated into our design. there is in front of the of the fountain. we proposed putting the floor in front of the fountain, however, it could go both one of the wails on either side but right now it's on the floor in front of the of the fountain and that obviously will be retained. i'm very very briefly talking about the mapping again and saying how it creates the form and holds the corner. and some of the detailing on what we call the bar building dhs the building that houses the mechanic rooms additional stock rooms and the ingenious room the back of the facilities.
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and we looked at neighboring buildings within the conservation district and there's a lot of building that have the glazing elements. we feel we're responding to the conservation district with our new concept south of the bay. and some views again there are artistic but the idea we have a well aluminated store and it becomes a window into union square and to midnight time the existing street lights will be retained and in the plaza. if i finish saying the store a gateway between my own square and the night line it's important we see the
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transparency through the building thank you >> thank you. do you have another speaker we're going to extend your time for 2 minutes >> your good. >> okay. thank you very much. commissioners? questions. staff. sponsor? anyone >> i have one question. >> commissioner hyland. is there any exterior equipment and where is it located >> no interior commit only a flew that comes i comes up from a back up generator but it comes out on the bar building we don't want to mess up the revolver on the apple store >> any other questions or
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comments commissioners. we'll open up any public comment? i have to speaker cards. jaits and fold by another gentleman >> good afternoon. i have a some letters. hi, i'm jazzy work with the united workers west and i think the last meeting i came to you expressed i represent 4 thousand members and security officers many work and live in the city. our members make modest salaries their reliant on public transit
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my public spaces sort of the whole environmental picture that's looked at the under sequa is important to our members a lot of them live in small apartments and don't have cars. so we're concerned about the way this process has been done. as i've said before i don't know if there's someone from forter if i say piecemeal but points of view this come before this body and piece of this this before the architecture committee and before the board of supervisors and we hope that this would come as a package and have it delivered under sequa for you'll the possible impacts as we believe the law says rather than doing in back and forth and to
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consider all the things i think we're now looking at the project sponsors and the planning department are seeking an exemption from sequa and so i guess i understand why there would more time for the continuous but i think your position is the same. i look at the public space and a worry about a little bit about the public access and the way that the space is a configured. i see some of the pictures tables with pursuits in the back and talking about people coming from the cafe and hotel i think it's great the space would get important usage but i think are we talking about the same kind of public space or private space this was created as on offset
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that far exceeded was it no more in the district; right? that's a little bit peculiar that that deserves nor thought >> thank you, mr. drearyy. >> i'm richard i'm representing s c i ushlgs workers west and samuel coal and daniel who have lived here and worked over thirty years. apple has proposed a store that will change the face of the sophomore for decades and decades to come. it will string the plazas by thirty percent according to our certified planners. as the very at least we are urge
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the committee to take the project that was different that was presented on december 5th take the new project back the the arc that's it dollars not a staff report that. please do rush into this without the proper review. we believe at the very least the new project should be reviewed by the architecture committee and sequa should be required because this project has significant impacts on was fountain and placing. we believe this project is incompatible with union square my the conservation district because of the materials being used. first, the threshold question under the charter all ordinances that may affect historical resources you must be brought before this committee before the
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oth other agencies. this affects las vegas yi it houses a historic resources a fountain therefore this has an affect on the resources and must be presented here before the planning commission. this project is thinking that compatible with the conservation district in section 67 it says preferred materials are brick, stone and terry cot. you couldn't be farther from this as made out of stairwells and glass. well, there's the little strip on the side that looks like stone. well, if you can have a piece of stone next to our building and say this building is made of
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stolen this definition has no meaning. it's basically a making sense less definition and finally, we believe sequa review is required. it's not right under the sections it says if a project may have an impact on historic resources - >> thank you. >> and may not. >> any other any public comment? >> president hasz i'm the author of section 1.35 that creates the powers you enjoy today. i respectfully disagree with may be councils nuance interpretation in as far as this
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is a skerm district. the piece of legislation should have been referred to you. you have to actually prepare a written report if you want to defer to the voices let me suggest you under the charter have the power to bring that legislation for you to comment on its been the subject of a robust codifies and much controversy because at various italy rationed it talked about two dozen properties historic properties by the staffs recommendations. you should absolutely be discussing this. as for the project itself let me social myself with the comments of previous violated it's not compatible with the district this is a retail branding posing and architecture.
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i have a great problem with this the fountain should be identified as a hifkz resource that doesn't mean you could not move it but it should be identified as a rurlt resource. the staff didn't mention that the heritage put in a letter that reiterates that pursuant to proposition j section 4.130 that piece of enabling legislation should be proper before tomorrow's commission until and a unless you've reviewed it. >> any public comment on this item? seeing none, public comment is closed. back to you, commissioners. . commissioners, comments or questions >> where do we want to start. >> commissioner johnck.
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>> sure i'm interested in the one point at the moment about the architecture review committee. and not all projects come back for a second i mean, you made some comments there were changes made. i guess is it typical of or not typical to go back or - >> most projects do not come back. >> do not come back so it's unusual. >> so i want to direct your comments about the changes. >> commissioner pearlman do you want to comment. >> sure i've got a lot to say. this is incredibly challenging
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problem. i've spent a lot of time walking that district within the last two weeks and pay checks walked up and down the streets and got a feel for the buildings in this area. i want to commend the partners. i think that the changes to the facade and the a number of our comments relative to the scaling and the rhythm & patterson of the street facade. i modifying prefer the 6th day design. i still had an e-mail and my comment was mr. van gogh designed this in the city and the columns you see on the outside of the building are fake
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and they don't connect to the ground even. the idea those two particular columns on either end don't support anyone is not visible only to people who know it is not connected. the visually the pattern is much more in keeping with the pattern in this district there was a lot of conversation in the staff report it never came out here about the base. some idea of base that's been added and you know, i had a few comments about it because in the staff report it created the kind of two part come accusation it's typical in the district. again walking around the district the base is a one story or two story element it's not a
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18 inch on one side and kind of encompass into the ground on the other so looking at the post street facade it doesn't seem any different than before. when i heard about a base i was encouraged that would create something at least that sense that the building was sitting on something but don't see how that's been executed in a way that it relates to the district. the heights one thing it's a question i walked around union jury and saw the shortest building is 3 steroids not 4 stories it's four stories. >> where. >> on post and pile the old disney.
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but implicit i don't see the scale as being a specific issue that would, you know, make-or-break the building i think the stepping of the mask down in essence the whole bar issue is the tail wagging the dog no one it looking at that it fits in so well we're looking at the frame and glass facade. so i don't think we should be swayed by conversation of the one sixth of the site is the piece that matters and it's been brought out by a number of the speakers. i'm concerned about the stockton side there's no change there and the question about the variance that's required. i've sought variances on issues
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and there's been hardships that are there and obviously designing a building there's no hardship there that's not our charge so i'm not sure how it gets resolved. i don't have a major concern but it's again only one building i could find in the desire district that doesn't have any blank walls that's on the macy's building on farrell that has blank walls but that's not a shining i didn't example of walls in our district. the materials you know the bar building is great. i think to say you can't have cast stone that looks like
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indiana wall stone, of course, you can use stone that looks like stone that's appropriate. i'd love to see the blast sandstone. i was tale a back i'm sorry it was stairwells steel i was taken back about the comment of the reflective material it would have a massiveness you know it happens to be stole and my comment with when i wrote my noets notes i'm okay it's grayish and will have a began you will quality but the reflectability of the comment came up so, now i'm a little bit less convinced. i'd love to see it to know. let's see. the only comment i want to go back to the plaza i think it's a
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beautiful design. oh, thank you. one of the things i've noticed i haven't paid attention to say the stairs. and how people sits on the stairs and clearly that's not as grand last year as i thought it was going to be. so that rendering of the plaza over there you, you know, one of the things about sitting on the stairs and i for one have sat on the stairs and found it a pollutant experience. when it's about 8 feet and you show people sitting there i'm wondering as a design exercise if there's a way to open up and
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make it widower maybe you don't noted the planter but somehow widen the stairs i've been to the park and it's a lovely idea to walk out of the apple store and that will animate that space people are out there at this point and, of course, there's no retail store there now. that's a few of my comments and the sequa issues i don't know if the euro has signed off on this i trust the integrity of the department that those issues were handled appropriately. it seems like the things that
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happened 40 years ago the litigation measures are definitely out of our realm as well as the zoning issues of the administer is out of our realm but what the two gentlemen brought up about whether this should have come to us should be discuss. one question i have for the s c i u is it's a rhetoric question but i'm wondering what specific things and maybe you should give up. one of the impacts i want to know about the size of the plaza according to the staff report its getting bigger and according to the research it's getting smaller by thirty percentage so i want to know exactly is the
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plaza getting smaller it looks about the same >> thank you for requesting the plazas is a right triangle. if you do the math the plazas is smaller by thirty percent. that clearly has an impact on the sculpture. the staff didn't circulate the stairs as part of the space. the stairs are part of the plaza that's where people sit those are board or couch size stairs that's where people sit. under the new configuration it's narrow so if you circulate the stairs into both plans the plaza is shrinking 0 thirty percent the staff robert report it's erroneous >> is there a real reason
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theory opposing this or because i'mlogies 25 hundred space of parking space i'm up in arms about this building it's a strange connection. >> the f d i members live here in san francisco they're the lowest income folks and their strlg strirlg it to be in the middle-class where we're representing 3 members in the district and the courts have held that the unions have a right to protect the environment and because you're a member of the s c i u rather than the sierra club didn't make it better. >> it doesn't seems like a
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hygiene impact. i think the design as it's designed it will be a much better place for people to come and sit. it's a strange connection between the impacts and the group our representing >> i happen to be a resident of san francisco had myself and a japanese-american and this is a valuable and important space to the entire community and a very public space. it's would i do open people can go in there and enjoy the public space. this reconvene formulation makes it an extension of the apple store we talk about the geniuss to come out there and test it. it was a public space the levies didn't open to the plaza and make it an extension